WestCanMan

There is evidence, you just don’t understand how big of a deal it is for a VP to use his position as a butterfly net for cash, or to outmuscle members of foreign government to cover your tracks. For a come back the only thing that you can do is act like it’s a crime to support Trump or say that Fox News is a cult but you never catch me saying anything that’s not entirely true. Isn’t that weird?

He has taken sides with some hilarious left wing causes like Kavanaugh and the whistle-blower bs. I can’t stand phoney talking points.

I was just thinking today about how atrocious it was that he just sat there and blabbed about doing something that was so blatantly inappropriate and possibly even criminal. When he looked to the person on his left, at the end of that video, and said “and then I put someone solid in that position” you could tell that they were both embarrassed for him. It makes me wonder if he would be equally stupid if he was the president of United States. “Joe, the first rule about fight club is no one talks about fight club”. “Yeahhhh no problemo. I’m cool.” *Dials phone* “MOM, DAD, I JUST JOINED FIGHT CLUB!”

China is part of the same investigation because Hunter Biden has a track record of making boatloads of money in countries where his father pays a lot of official state visits. Going to China on AF2 and doing huge business deals doesn't pass the sniff test. That's just speculation. Trump already gave the Ukraine Javelin Missiles before that, and he has explained that he was holding out while he was trying to get other countries to chip in. His version makes sense. It's not even close to the quid pro quo that Biden did when he bent the Ukraine's arm. Biden set the standard for dealing with the Ukraine that way. Yes, we agree on that much. But the flipside of the HBiden nepotism is Joe Biden's admitted quid pro quo, and then setting up his own prosecutor that was "solid". If there's a dictionary definition of using your government position as a tool for making money and kicking down foreign countries it's what Joe and Hunter did. Foreign influence peddling to get Hunter a lucrative job in the Ukraine and a huge deal with the state-owned Bank of China, using the American propaganda machine to destroy the reputation of a foreign prosecutor, using $1B worth of government leverage to get a quid pro deal to get you'r son's fat out of the fire, appointing your own fake prosecutor in the Ukraine... Now it's not so surprising that the Dems know how to get prosecutions started in the US. It seems that they own the prosecution racket domestically and abroad. Trump is punching up at the Dems' powerful prosecution machine, and Biden blurted out the evidence himself. The information that has come to light in the last two years about how much control the Dems are asserting over the judicial processes at home and overseas is alarming. "We can pay foreigners for election dirt, if anyone else does it, it's a crime. Maybe one day we will catch someone and make an example of them. Our high-ranking officials are above the law, there is no need to investigate any of them no matter how inappropriate their actions appear to the naked eye. We can arrest people for crimes unrelated to an investigation that is completely lacking evidence and offer reduced sentences for coerced testimony and that's all good." This also ties in with their desperate bid to keep Kavanuagh out of the SC. The Dems and CNN are just a couple of SCJs away from running the table. Can you imagine President Hillary with all this prosecutorial power, her above the law status, a stacked supreme court, the CNN/MSNBC propaganda machine, and Dem-friendly prosecutors propped up in foreign countries with large GDPs? She won't even need to get lucky with suicidal witnesses anymore, and she won't need to say "I don't remember" 30 times for every one of her scandals. They just won't "exist".

Interest in Hunter Biden doesn't seem the least bit unwarranted though. Honestly how a VP's son can do so much business with a subsidiary of the Bank of China is crazy: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/oct/02/donald-trumps-accusations-about-hunter-biden-and-c/

ALL that the Dems have been doing for three years is digging up dirt on a political rival. It's debatable if they even have another job. They were illicitly digging up dirt on trump before the election [buying it from foreigners no less], lying about the veracity of it on the media and in Congress & the Senate, claiming that their bogus evidence was independently corroborated and verified in order to get FISA warrants issued and renewed, they claimed on several occasions that they finally had actual evidence but that was an obvious lie because to this day there's still none [more lying in the Congress and Senate], they had the FBI arrest people for unrelated charges and offer them reduced sentences for fake testimony, and in the end when they had nothing they tried to arrest people for obstructing their fake investigation. And you think Trump is the bad guy? If you put a frog in hot water he will jump out but if you tell him a sensational story and get him to parrot it, the story can get more and more ridiculous and he will continue to pimp that story until he dies. Stop frogging. Here's are some things that you need to try really hard to understand: 1) "the entire western world" did not want that prosecutor fired. Powerful people wanted that prosecutor fired and they did their best to convince us all that the entire western world wanted him fired, and he was just one person up against the vast US propaganda machine. If Biden, Obama, CNN, MSNBC say that Boges or one other specific person needs to be fired what do you think the opinion of "the entire western world" will be? Look at the laundry list of ridiculous positions that the Dems and CNN have taken over the past two years and if they come up with something even dumber tomorrow ten million people will believe them. 2) Biden "putting the next 'solid' guy in place" is just as alarming as him demanding that the first guy was fired. And guess what? The solid new guy isn't investigating Burisma. Is that a shocker? 3) Trump didn't try to get a political rival investigated, he tried to get someone who bragged about something that has the appearance of being a serious crime investigated. That's not the same as the Dems trying to get someone investigated when the appearance of a crime wasn't there. 4) If the Biden family had a single benefit conferred on them or even received one dollar from a foreign country, in exchange for Joe Biden influencing the American government on their behalf in any way, that's a very serious crime against the American people. Hunter Biden profited massively by doing business in more than one country where his father was extremely influential due to his position in the United States Government. Burisma seemingly gifted Hunter Biden a $600,000 per year job. Hunter Biden flew on AF2 [with his dad] to China and did personal business deals over there while his dad was dealing with the Chinese government. Joe Biden was caught lying about whether or not he knew that Hunter got the Burisma job. It's impossible that Joe Biden didn't ever talk to his son about his new job, so that's another very disturbing lie. Why did he lie if he had nothing to hide? How much of an alarming coincidence is it that Hunter Biden always scored such huge paydays in countries where his dad was working "on behalf of the US government"? It's mind-blowingly stupid to not be alarmed by that. The fact that Biden's family profited by millions of dollars in the countries where he was most involved is extremely suspect. Anyone who says that an investigation is absolutely unwarranted is extremely suspect, or completely ignorant of the law. Boges, if Johnny Dingo was your mom's lawyer, and he was representing her in a multi-billion dollar matter with a large company, and you suddenly found out that his son just got appointed to the board of one of their subsidiaries (in a role which he didn't seem qualified for, which paid him $50K per month), would you have serious reservations about how well your mom's interests were being protected? Would you just blindly accept the suggestion that it doesn't need to be looked into? If there was a prosecutor that started an investigation into that company and Johnny Dingo bragged that he had him fired would that raise any alarm bells for you? What if he then admitted that he, Johnny Dingo himself, got a new prosecutor put into that guy's spot and the new prosecutor left that company alone? Would you still say "Aw shucks mom, that Johnny's sure a swell guy".

I'm not making any excuses for Libs B_C. They're just dumb enough to copy something that they saw on American TV that was wrong. I won't go so far as to say that it's a complete misrepresentation of Canadian culture because we have a lot of whacko activists here, but we are a country mile from experiencing anything like what the US experienced from 2014-2106.

That's partly the end result of having an accusatory, divisive, leftist PM, but it's also an offshoot of the angry, hostile, racist political situation in the US that was fostered by Obama. We had the BLM here too when Obama was in power. You guys had a much worse problem with this kind of thing before Trump got in. We just have a smidgeon of it.

When the leftist media are in their haste to paint Biden as being as pure as the driven snow they never show that video. Actually, they never show that video. Google "biden says that he got the ukraine prosecutor fired cnn" and click videos https://www.google.ca/search?q=biden+says+that+he+got+the+ukraine+prosecutor+fired+cnn&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxrI-b5P7kAhVNip4KHYuKD_gQ_AUIEygD&biw=1152&bih=649 , you get the video from other sources but CNN just references the quote and calls Trump's accusations inaccurate. I'd love to know if they've ever shown that video.

Stop just quoting leftist talking points as facts Argus. That holds as much water as a marble. "Lazy about corruption?" If he's so lazy then why did the energetic guy, THAT BIDEN PUT IN HIS PLACE, lack the energy to investigate Burisma? Basic common sense just blows that point to hell. And if you don't think that Biden put that prosecutor in place then watch the end of the video I posted where he flippantly mentions that he put a good guy in his spot. His exact quote was "and I put in place someone who was solid." Burisma is above the law because Joe Biden is above the law. "Countries that said that they wanted the prosecutor fired", if they even exist, had their marching orders from higher up. The US gov't hands out LOTS of money. FYI the board of directors at Burisma also included Alan Apter from Renaissance Capital - the firm that gave Bill Clinton $500K for speaking in Russia not long after the Uranium One deal, and an ex-CIA Agent and former Mitt Romney advisor named Cofer Black. It's not just the Ukraine that did a lot of business with Hunter Biden while his dad was a VP. Before Burisma, Hunter was a business partner with John Kerry's step-son, Chris Heinz, in a co. named Rosemont Seneca Partners which did $1.5B in business with China, and that all started while Hunter's daddy was VP. Hunter actually flew with his dad to China on AF2 to conduct personal business with the Bank of China. Who else does that? When Hunter joined the Burisma board, and started pulling in massive gobs of money in another country where his dad was hard at work, Chris Heinz bailed out. So little Hunter Biden just has a history of coincidentally doing a crapload of international business in countries where his dad was hard at work representing the USA at the very highest level, and his dad coincidentally fired a prosecutor who was investigating one of the companies that mysteriously hired Hunter and then replaced that investigator with someone "solid" who never re-opened the investigation..... And now, according to you, Trump needs to keep his mouth shut because the Bidens have the all-clear. There's no need for investigating the Bidens but Trump saying that it needs to be investigated is a crime. I can't even believe some of the crap that people here regurgitate. YOU NEED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF SOMETIMES ARGUS!!!!!! THINK MAN! Don't just gobble up lines like "according to my news sources lots of people in foreign governments say that the Bidens are all good so there's no need for an investigation".

Scheer saw what happened to Harper when the alt-left media here found a chink in his armour. $90K duffygate was headline news for three years. A $90K scandal for the liberals is the bar tab on flight from Ottawa to Hull.

Lol. Shapiro is one smart cookie. That's why he's basically banned from talking on campuses. The leftists know that they just get completely annihilated in a battle of wits with him so they turn rioting to shut him up.

Which one of us has the history of making the idiotic claims around here Boges? Honestly you don't want to look back there with the benefit of hindsight. Boges - the size of the economies in different regions doesn't make a difference to where the tax dollars that you pay should go. New Yorkers want their money to go to municipal and state taxes and they want a break on federal tax. They only want their money to benefit their local area. The middle Americans don't don't get the federal tax deduction, so more of their tax money leaves their local community and goes into the federal economy. So two hard-working Americans pay their taxes and one is supposed to get lots of benefits in their community and the other person's taxes are supposed to go to Washington. Do you see the difference?

Rebel Media really needs to up their game. It's just as hard to watch as CNN sometmes. By that I don't mean they need to get crazier, I mean reject some crazies, present a more coherent program, stop rambling on, don't use the sinister overtones that a Lisa LaFlamme type would use every time she talks about Trump, etc. I think that they do provide valuable information about certain topics that you would never see on our alt-left msm, but regardless of what that information is I'd like to see it presented fairly and objectively. And I can't stand the way Ezra Levant rambles on. Anything that he doesn't say in the first twenty seconds is lost on me. On most shows you'll see a brief synopsis of what they're going to cover in the upcoming segment, or after the commercial break, and then they'll get into it. Ezra just blabs like a schoolgirl who's overdosing on Starbucks and you never know when he's going to finish. If I look down and see that the status bar is just a tenth of the way I panic. I don't think that they should be denied media credentials, and Scheer shouldn't be blacklisting them like the Liberal fear mongers do, but the Rebel isn't at the point where they can get private interviews either. They're sort of in media limbo.

No, because the "right" doesn't embrace the Charlottesville white supremacists. They don't belong to either side. The KKK on the other hand was founded by and remained part of the Democrats until the optics of that were finally too costly politically. Their longest serving Senator was actually a former grand wizard or cyclops and he just died a couple of years ago. Hillary called him her mentor. The KKK may have finally been finally orphaned by the Dems but no one took them under their wing here or in the US. The Dems and Libs also embrace BLM and anti-Semitism within their parties, the Liberals here won't speak out against anti-Jew hate rallies, The Dems also embrace Antifa, although I don't think that Libs here vouch for them even though they won't call them out. So: Republicans/Conservatives: -Neither historically nor currently vouching for any hate groups. Not afraid to call out hate groups for what they are. Dems: -Founders and long-time supporters of the KKK, -Supporters of the BLM Movement -Supporters of Antifa -Prominent members are vocal anti-Semites Liberals: -Support BLM, -Have tried to get two anti-Semites candidates on the ballot in the 2019 election and publicly refused to stand against anti-Semitic hate rallies, -Won't make statements against Antifa -have legitimized terrorism in several ways including; 1) calling islamic state members "fighters" instead of terrorists, 2) giving a known terrorist a large cash settlement despite the fact that there was no legal precedent for demanding that a POW gets a trial, 3) stopping the bombing of isis, 4) refusing to acknowledge that islamic state was committing genocide, 5) letting a terrorist who came here under false pretences keep his citizenship, 6) letting returning islamic state terrorists walk free, like normal returning soldiers, saying that "returning isis 'fighters' [terrorists] will be a powerful voice against radicalization" 7) refusing to open an investigation into a "returning isis fighter" who bragged on a US radio program about attending beheadings. The Libs/Dems aren't good Bubber. Not good at all.

It's a barometer of strong support, and that a lot of people in the US still believe that this latest impeachment process is a farce.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-gas-tycoon-and-the-vice-presidents-son-the-story-of-hunter-bidens-foray-in-ukraine/2019/09/28/1aadff70-dfd9-11e9-8fd3-d943b4ed57e0_story.html LMAO at WashPo. These guys are just massive liars.They have no qualms about saying something that is 100% the opposite of the truth: Is this what "unsubstantiated" looks like nowadays? LMAO! Ignore the text at the beginning, I don't know how accurate that is and it's not important. What's important is that WashPo is saying that there is no evidence that Biden pressured the Ukraine Gov't into firing their top prosecutor. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE KNOWN THAT THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAS TRUE! They can quibble over what the motives were and when the investigation actually ended, but the topic of why, and what Biden's involvement in that process was, seriously needs to be investigated. Can we be led to believe that Biden didn't want the investigation ended (or wasn't aware of it?) but he was suddenly so irate with that investigator that he held $1B in aid ransom until he was sacked? Did he say to himself "I'll stay out of the process of ending the investigation but once it's over, I'll make sure that the prosecutor is fired". Why was his son hired there, and who else was on the board? If you google that you get sidetracked every which way, but everything points to Biden's purity. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.html BUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLcraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap. The hiring process isn't instantaneous and it doesn't happen out of the blue. Hunter B wasn't picking weeds from his garden and suddenly found out that he was hired to the board of a large gas company in a foreign country despite never having applied for it. They would have talked for weeks before he even got the job, and in that time we're supposed to believe that he never mentioned it to his dad? And when he got hired he never said "Hey dad I just got a job making $50K a week"? Does that kind of thing just always happen to him? Was he embarrassed by that paltry sum or something? The people who are saying that Trump is guilty and there's absolutely no need to investigate the Bidens because they're as pure as snow are just plain liars or morons. "I found out that my son got a $50,000 per month job in the country that I just visited 12 times in the last year when I watched Hannity. And then I never discussed things with him." WashPo is 100% pure garbage (their motto is "Democracy Dies in the Darkness" lol. Do they call their paper "the Darkness"?) It's worse than the National Enquirer. Anyone who would quote WashPo and diss Fox News is just a bona fide 1,000% idiot.

They want to keep all their own tax money and they want Middle America to shoulder a disproportionate share of the federal tax burden. "We can't give money to the Federal Gov't because we spend so many tax dollars here!" A reasonable, fair approach is that people all across the country pay the same amount of federal taxes. Cuomo should just get an emotional support llama and move on.

Proof? It's 100% certain that when spineless Obama was POTUS the Iranians captured a US Sailors and forced one of them, a woman, to wear a hijab. Was that a fake? Did Iran not just capture a British Tanker? Have they not openly threatened the US ships in that region? Yeah, yeah, it's all Trump. Try again pal. Iran's leaders have said over and over again that they intend to destroy Israel, they just can't be allowed to have nukes, period. They need to be very careful on Trump's watch because their crap won't be tolerated like it was under Obama.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-gas-tycoon-and-the-vice-presidents-son-the-story-of-hunter-bidens-foray-in-ukraine/2019/09/28/1aadff70-dfd9-11e9-8fd3-d943b4ed57e0_story.html LMAO at WashPo. These guys are just massive liars.They have no qualms about saying something that is 100% the opposite of the truth: Is this what "unsubstantiated" looks like nowadays? LMAO! Ignore the text at the beginning, I don't know how accurate that is and it's not important. What's important is that WashPo is saying that there is no evidence that Biden pressured the Ukraine Gov't into firing their top prosecutor. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE KNOWN THAT THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAS TRUE! WashPo is 100% pure garbage (their motto is "Democracy Dies in the Darkness" lol. Do they call their paper "the Darkness"?) It's worse than the National Enquirer. Anyone who would quote WashPo and diss Fox News is just a bona fide 1,000% idiot.

The Dems are just a divisive, hateful, angry bunch of people. It’s no wonder the US was burning for Obama’s last two years.

I get that you want to ignore the recent history of all the crackpipe Trump conspiracy theories but it’s important for you to understand where this latest farce is coming from. And yeah, I’m not afraid to tell people the truth even when they can’t handle it. The alternative is to listen to mindless drivel from CBC/CNN toadies. You saw the list of their BS stories. It’s a pretty pathetic track record, to say the least.

1) I know that your media sources suck because you're just so wrong somethimes. 2) I just took you out behind the woodshed and showed you who was wrong on every story, and who was stuck on conspiracy theories and attempted rape theories that didn't pan out. That was you Argus. If you can't see with the benefit of hindsight what other people see in advance, or can see in real time, then you probably shouldn't debate against those people. If your dog won't defend his own food dish he's not worth having. If Kavanaugh sat back and let himself get Borked he'd be a circuit court judge. The people who had no business being in that room were Dems like Hirono, etc who had nothing intelligent to say and who were just partisan hacks, willing to sacrifice the career of a decent person to get a judge on the SC that would act like a 9th circuit demi-god. Bla, blah blah. You call me a conspiracy theorist and then you barf up this nonsense? Business is war. It's about getting things done. You never want to deal with the Saudi Arabias of the world but sometimes you have to. You just need to make sure that you don't become like them. Trump has to deal with Russia, Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, etc because the other avenue leads to war. Doing business in NYC or Vancouver is the same thing. People like to give lawyers a lot of flack as if they're the bad guys, there are people like that in every profession. Even here in fat & happy Canada. Well, FYI Fox News was on the right side of that story as well. That was actually the first storyline that I ever followed on Fox News. Up to that point I didn't watch much American News but all I did watch was on CNN. I didn't follow American news closely enough or know enough about what was going on to know how sideways things were at CNN and the other MSM in America. Now I do. For the last 5 years Fox News has been literally head and shoulders above the other TV news media in the States and I'm not afraid to say it. People look at me like an idiot but when you go story by story, with the benefit of hindsight, Fox is vastly superior. You're the one who's taking everyone at their word that Biden was just a great guy and that there was nothing at all to see going on in the Ukraine when he held their $1B worth of aid hostage just to get a prosecutor fired. I'm not saying Biden was guilty, I'm saying that there should be a proper investigation. Not just a CNN opinion, or the Ukraine's fear of telling the truth for fear of what will happen if Biden wins. If Biden is innocent then I'll be happy to know. I'm screaming blasphemy when I see Schiff make his outrageous parody. Pelosi saying that Trump asked the Ukraine to "create" something was heresy. I'll scream blasphemy and heresy when I know it's true and I can easily prove that it was heresy/blasphemy. The MSM involved in those stories let them get away with it. That was an absolute farce and it's why I can't stomach ten minutes of CNN.

If you had half a brain that would be a vast improvement Argus. You follow the guys who end up being on the wrong side of every single story but you never, ever catch on. The Hillary/CNN Folks were dead wrong about Kavanaugh. (lol, you were so adamant that she had a solid case even though she didn't know what year it happened, couldn't name a place or say whose party it was, the witnesses that she named said that they never heard of it, she never talked to any of her long-time friends about, etc. And she was caught lying about events related to her testimony. But you were still totally hooked in to the dumbest story ever told. Then you tuned in for more, but I'm the cultist? ROTFLMAO) Dead wrong about Kavanaugh 2.0. Dead wrong about colluson. They said over and over that they had something coming out this weekend. Ok next weekend. "We've already got something big". "There have already been several indictments related to Russian collusion". "Manafort was arrested for crimes related to Russian collusion." (That might be true if he was meddling in the 2016 election back in 1995, morons.)Etc, etc. At the end of it all, they had absolutely nothing. They even missed the whole part about Strzok, McCabe, etc being fired/demoted, etc. Dead wrong about Smollett. Dead wrong about Michael Brown. Already caught on more than one lie re: Trump/Ukraine. Caught lying and pushing a false narrative on Nicholas Sandman Lied about Trump being an anti-Semite, and blamed the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting on him. Lied that the US was going into a recession. Lied about Nikki Haley's Drapes lol. They firmly believe that if you tell the same lie enough times it becomes the truth, and you still firmly believe every single thing they say. And you have the gall to call me a cultist? Are you on glue? What exactly have I been wrong about, compared to your laundry list of idiocy? Bolded it for ya. I've already gone on record here saying that I watch The Five for US News. I watch the Greg Gutfeld Show. You can watch that yourself and catch them on some lies if you want (not including Juan Williams - the resident Democrat) and then come back and call me a cultist. Their track record is utterly phenomenal compared to CNN.

Conspiracy theory? Watch the video of Biden saying [fyi I’m ACCURATELY paraphrasing] “I used $1B of US government money to force the Ukranian government to fire a prosecutor who investigated the company that gifted my son ac$50k/month job.” Tell me that raises no red flags for you. If Trump said anything remotely like that you’d go apoplectic. But it was a Dem so you gobble up the very first excuse that pops out, like a fat kid on Soylent Green. That is no BS Adam Schiff hackjob/lie either, it’s 100% accurate. You don’t like the bolded parts because you can’t think for yourself. CNN said it so you’ll defend it tooth and nail down until it’s finally proven to be false, but by then you will have jumped all over their next farce.