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So you don't agree that other religious groups are equally as violent when circumstances permit.

Yup. My posting refutes the claim that "Islam does nothing". Yours continues to claim that Muslims everywhere are terrorists.

I believe some are currently invoking their god-given right to visit violence on others, as have others in the past and no doubt in the future. Because so many readers assume lack of panic over Islam is the same as approving of terrorists, killing gays and apostates, stoning women and pedophilia, let me say that I do not support or condone any of the above.

Kuwait runs anti-terrorism ad for Ramadan. http://www.iagreetosee.com/portfolio/powerful-anti-terrorism-ad-ramadan/

Perhaps if you didn't act as if Islam is some hugely different and unique event in the world, it wouldn't be necessary to point out how similar it is to other religions.

Just as Judaism and Christianity appropriated elements of other religions. Rather standard practice really.

I've posted previously about the different implementations of Sharia Law around the world, with links. Your unwillingness to accept this fact is your problem. I despise your lack of insight and your deliberate ignorance. Your views are an outgrowth of your inability to judge people on their merits, preferring instead to slap labels (leftist, Muslim) and declare your intimate knowledge of the beliefs and motivations of the people you've labelled.

Societal alienation can lead to criminal behavior. If there are 1000 kids exposed to the type of rhetoric indulged in by you and DoP, 998 may feel attacked, misunderstood, hurt and alienated and it may make them cleave more closely to their religion and community where they feel accepted and understood. One may leave Islam and the other may turn to violent extremism. I understand its difficult for you to understand anything beyond simplistic black/white situations, but people's motivations and reasons for the choices they make are not simple. Note: Numbers were chosen at random to illustrate a point. The number of alienated Canadian Muslim youth who would choose extremism over other options may be more or less than 1 in 1000.

Isn't this one of the many things about which it contradicts itself? Don't you? Not something I've claimed; I've only said you are disseminating ISIS' preferred interpretation.

The most recent example is when you agreed with this statement by GS: A muslim that doesn't plan to ever kill an apostate cannot declare he is a muslim. DOP is right. Clearly I'm not making things up.

If that was his motivation.

I just rather idly wondered if the kid learned anything related to accepting gays if he was making an anti-gay statement.

I agree, that's a lot of people. Why so many? Did they mention how many in Canada? I read that May was willing to ignore individual rights in order to deal with this (not sure this is a credible source so won't link it). If true, do you think this is a reasonable response? Sisi has jailed a lot of people, including journalists, on the claim that he is fighting the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism. My sister and I had a very long discussion about this because Western Media portrayed his actions as consolidating power while my sister believed that he was improving the security of the country. So will the UK, the US, Canada eventually follow in Sisi's footsteps?

Agree with that, but I feel the same about Christianity. It's easy to further demonize Muslims by making the point that Christians aren't carrying out terror attacks as brutal as ones carried out by Muslims, except they are where they can, they have in the past and they would again given the right circumstances. And really, Christianity has been dragged, kicking and screaming, into our more secular, tolerant and equal society. Islam will have to go through the same process, IMO, but I'm no more willing to reject a Muslim with stupid religious views as I am a Christian - as long as those thoughts don't result in illegal activity. Brutality, violence and oppression seem to be inherently human, regardless of what religion we follow or even if we follow none at all. Because there is so much brutality around the world and throughout history, it just doesn't make sense to me that its because of any "religion".

If he was objecting (to gays, pride and/or rainbows) do you suppose his consequence made him more accepting?

Until there were terror attacks, few people cared what fundamental Muslims did. Now that so many Muslims are vociferously rejecting terrorism in Islam's name, and that there have been a bunch of fatwas against terror attacks, and Imams worldwide have declared terrorism non-Islamic, do you suppose people will stop claiming terror attacks a Muslim requirement and return to ignoring fundie Muslims?

Missed this the first time: it was the other way around - the will of the people was to rid themselves of the Muslim Brotherhood; Morsi was so determined to remain in power, despite massive protests, that he threatened to let Egyptian blood flow. That was when the army stepped in and removed him. At that time, the army was the savior of the people for getting rid of Morsi and Sisi is still widely supported for his actions against the MB.

I'm reading this book I mentioned earlier, criticizing Islam basically. There is so much contradictory stuff in there, they can believe whatever the F they want, and they're believing in Islam. It's just like the Bible that way, so the Muslims who accept gays are just as Muslim as the ones who reject gays. Which Sharia law, exactly? There are quite a few to choose from. ________________________________ Now, I'm going to say this one more time, using simple words so you maybe get it: I do not agree with how Muslim countries are governed. Objecting to you in your effort to paint all Muslims as the same does not mean I support gay killing/wife beating/pedophilia/etc or the way in which the governments in these countries oppress their citizens.

Do you really think Argus and DoP are the only ones saying these kinds of things? Do you think they came up with this stuff all by themselves? Do you think Muslims, including teenagers and young adults, are unaware of the rising anti-Muslim sentiment in Canada? Do you think they missed the 'barbaric cultural' practices hotline proposal? The debate over the niqab? The 'Canadian values' test proposed by Leitch? Do you think they don't hear about Trump and the property crimes, harassment and physical attacks against Muslims that have been carried out in his name? The Muslim ban? If you think they're just merrily going on their way, all unaware of and not affected by the anti-Muslim rhetoric on social media, in the news, in their neighborhoods and on their Mosques, you are pretty dense.

This whole thing assumes that objecting to some moron on the internet saying "Muslims are incipient terrorists, and want to kill gays and stone adulterers" is the same as saying "We want to see people blown up, gays killed and adulterers stoned". And who is being "silent" about the lack of rights for gays and women in those countries? It's the government, not the citizens. Many Canadians wish we'd boycott Saudi or Iran, or do something more than the gentle "Gee guys don't do that" that is currently the action of choice. But hey - oil, right? Our government puts oil above women's rights and gay rights, regardless of what I or any other citizen might want. And do you really think the 'left' feels like the 'right' is respectfully listening?

That's not what either Argus or DoP do or others do. They use those events to tell anyone who'll listen that all Muslims are the same. So then, if a woman wears a headscarf, Argus decides she hates gays and she should not be welcome in Canada. If a Muslim doesn't plan to ever kill an apostate, DoP declares him not a Muslim. If a niqab-wearing woman threatens others with a knife, Betsy decides no niqab-wearing women should be in Canada. There is a world of difference between criticism and simply painting an entire group with the same ugly brush, regardless of the different customs and beliefs among them.

You know nothing about Egypt. They don't kill gays, they don't stone adulterous women. They don't cut off limbs. Too many still practice FGM. Being gay and leaving Islam are crimes, as far as I understand that. I disapprove of all of that. But unlike you and your ilk, I don't throw out everyone in that society because I also know that many people also disagree with those laws and those social more, and are working to change it. Islamophobes don't understand that difference between spewing hate and criticism. By the way, have you ever contributed money towards the ending of child marriage in Middle Eastern lands, as I have? How does it help progressive Muslims when people like Argus say "If a woman is wearing a headscarf, she's an extremist who hates gays and apostates"? Or DoP says "If someone who claims to be Muslim doesn't believe he has to be a jihadist, he's not really a Muslim" and endlessly declares how Muslims are a threat to Westerners. Please, Sapper, explain exactly how that helps. How do you suppose it makes a young Muslim in Toronto feel, to know that there are people like DoP and Argus with their one-size-fits-all-Muslims - ignorant, violent, backward, savage and barbaric? How exactly is that "criticizing" Islam?

My family doesn't believe in any of that, but that doesn't matter to you, does it. Much better that you spew your Islamophobic bullshit about Muslims, support the fear and hatred that ISIS wants the West to feel, and that motivates people like Bissonette and Christian.

Where did he say that? Maybe its your conviction that you can read minds and motivations is what he thinks is wrong. Peter was respectful towards you, but of course you had to resort to character assassination to bolster your "argument".