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Except that not everybody you assume is Muslim based on their name and pic in the paper is. People post crimes committed by Muslims, verified or not, and ASSUMES they are religiously motivated, verified or not.

True, I misspoke slightly, but still "money/profit over people". I can understand, to a point, why poor countries might want to avoid pissing China off - but China needs its export markets too, so the power isn't all one-sided.

Islamic nations support China's crackdown on Muslims. Economy over people, as true in oppressive nations as free ones.

Since three of these women were born in the States, and one of them is a naturalized American citizen, it's clear that Trump was asking for help to fix the the totally catastrophic, corrupt and inept US government. Good on him asking for help.

I don't believe there is a Yahweh or an Allah. Inasmuch that Gods seem to have the same motivations and behavior as humans, I can only definitely say sometimes.

I read it as part of what makes him God is the power of righteously determing who shall live and who shall die. Without that, he cannot be God regardless of any other attributes.

Uh, no he didn't. He told his followers that God would kill, so they didn't have to. Essentially he told them to leave the killing to God (Romans 12.9). God promises non-believers that they'll suffer eternal hellfire unless they convert. Which would be worse than death, imo, if meant literally.

Nope, I would not consider him a Christian. Nor would I consider those who support him Christian. If I were a believer, I would say Satan is thrilled with these "Christians".

I looked back and it looks to me like the question arose in relation to Hirsi Ali who is at risk in Western countries due to a fatwa. In any case the same answers apply. If you'll read back, you'll find the following statements from Marocc: In regards to death penalty for apostates: "The Qur'an prescribes no earthly punishment for apostasy alone. The hadiths mention it and at times directly; 'if anyone changes their religion then kill him.' But seeing as this is controversial to the Qur'an it cannot be right." In regards to fatwas to kill blasphemers: And such a fatwa as you propose would be entirely unislamic. In regards to who can carry out a death penalty he said: Only the government can execute such punishments. Re: apostates being killed by in a non-governmental agent he said "What you're referring to is murder - not a punishment by Sharia." It seems he personally does not believe that death for apostasy is Quranic, recognizes that governments determine their own crimes and punishments (right or wrong), that only a government has the legal right to sentence someone to death and to carry out that punishment in their own country, and that anything else is murder. More of your ignorance. My sister converted to Islam about a decade before she went looking for an Islamic husband. Being the usual believer in Western media about foreign peoples, you can bet I was worried to death for her when she told us she was relocating to Egypt. As it happens, he treats her extremely well, certainly better than her Canadian husband did.

These kind of half-answers do not really help. Gives the impression you are playing games. Anyone's safety can depend on what they choose to do that day - jaywalk or not, drive drunk or not, or on factors out of their control - a drunk driver who runs into them, a gun someone thought wasn't loaded. In the specific context of this thread,.I think the question is "just how safe are people who insult Islam from a fatwa against them." I don't actually see how you can answer that question really, given that you've already stated only governments can legally kill and anything else is murder. And if I recall correctly, you've said that fatwas are pretty ignorable. My sister has said the same, they don't mean much and are often limited to a small group, ie a particular group of Mosque attendees or a small village. Also, I have heard you can essentially 'buy' a fatwa. A perfect vehicle for extremists to use to justify what they want to do anyway and scare Westerners at the same time. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

BS. It's a piece about how to identify false news. Misinformation should be everyone's concern and people need to learn how to verify information, instead of just cluelessly reposting "this makes me mad so it must true" stories. You are nothing but a troll and ought to have been banned long ago.

Ah, I think I see. LOL.

Why do you say that? Is he alone supposed to somehow answer for all the crimes of Muslims/Islamic terrorism? Or assure us that nobody ever is in danger from Muslim extremists?

Fake news. Poland has had three terror attacks since 2015, one carried out by an anti-immigrant terrorist. Also: the pattern of low-migration and low-terror is not consistent across all countries. Other countries on the map with very few terror attacks have high levels of migration. Since 2012, Norway, like Poland, has experienced few terror attacks (one). But unlike Poland, in 2017 Norway had a relatively high foreign-born population (15%) and its foreign immigration level (equivalent to about 0.9% of the Norwegian population in 2017) was above the EU’s average. The same pattern is true of Austria.

Prove that the 1200 attendees from 30+ countries were working for the Saudi government at a propaganda mill, or stop your Islamophobic bullshit.

As usual, anything positive posted about Muslims is discounted by the usual suspects. #NoGoodMuslims

That won't work. They'll just lay low until they represent (3% or 5% or 10%, some massive minority like that) of the population and then just take over. We need to make sure they can't get into the country at all. They must prove that they aren't guilty of future bad behavior before being allowed in.

I post positive things from the Muslim world; just a day ago, I posted about the conference with 1200 attendees to consider ways to combat divisiveness, violence and extremism. I was attacked for that. When positive news stories are posted about successful Muslims in the West, they are dismissed as government propaganda and not representative of the majority. Perhaps, if you are concerned about extremism "on both sides" you could make more effort to notice and support "the positive" instead of assuming it doesn't happen.

Clearly, American values are antithetical to Canadian values. We need to make sure they do not destroy Canadian culture by asking them questions at the border. We know they'll lie, just so they can come into Canada and bring their power/violence mad culture here and live off our welfare state while plotting our downfall, so we'll be sneaky about those questions. They'll never figure it out!

American culture: might is right. You are weaker and smaller than me, therefore I can abuse you with impunity.

Why does it matter? It's wrong.

1. Kinda sounds like you expect him to explain criminal behavior. If he thinks goverment is the only authority that can decree death, then it's possible that you and he agree that random Muslims killing people because of fatwas are wrong. 3. It seems unlikely to me that the "average Muslim" believes he needs to go kill apostates. He may feel they deserve death, either via Allah or the government, but that's different than thinking he must do it. Pew research tells us that the death penalty for apostates is supported by people who also believe Sharia should apply to everyone. Even so, not every Muslim who believes Sharia should apply to all also believes in the death penalty for apostacy. "Compared with attitudes toward applying sharia in the domestic or criminal spheres, Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death penalty for converts. Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also support executing apostates. Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take this view." Take note that the question was only asked of those Muslims who support Sharia as the law of the land, which varies from a low of 19% (Kazakhstan) to a high of 74% (Egypt). Overall, it appears that "the average Muslim" does not support the death penalty for apostasy. 2. Governments do set their own laws. People within and outside the country may or may not agree with those laws. Other nations may or may not agree with those laws. None of this should be misconstrued to suggest I agree with the death penalty, because I don't. Killing someone because they left a religion is unacceptable, whether an individual, a mob or a government. I am merely pointing out that there is no reason to think "the average Muslim" is going to take it upon him or herself to kill an apostate.

I'd say these two statements contradict each other. But it's becoming pretty clear you do not want to discuss Wahabbism and will deflect any questions. At what level does it become a crime?