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Now you are really being ridiculous! It's that fear-mongering that Libs and Cons do that has you so scared of change. Of course it suits them to keep you subservient! Never give in to fear and hopelessness.

Silly nonsense. Who hasn't figured out that Republicans&Democrats, Conservatives&Liberals are all part of the predatory profit-making cabals that destroy countries, societies and environments?! There are other choices.

Interesting question: Are Islamophobes equally prejudiced against white and nonwhite Muslims? Are racists equally supportive of white and nonwhite Christians?

Hillary is a puppet of the imperialist cabal. It's US imperialism, invasion of Muslim countries, destabilization, sanctions, regime change and theft of public resources for private profit that is driving migration, fomenting hatred and the rise of extremist terrorism. Now ... what was your point again ... ?!

The "yabut whattabout ..." deflectors are all over this topic, making it very clear that they are white supremacist Islamophobes. Someday soon the distinction between free speech and hate speech will become clearer to them.

Ya, there's a lot of that here. It's always important to continue to counter that. This is also fertile ground for police to monitor people who incite and promote hatred. As Antifa says ... "Make racists afraid again!" Lol

You're making it pretty clear that you stand with the white supremacists.

Immigration and religion are not causing problems. Racism, white supremacism, bigotry and hatred are causing the problems. Politicians, media and others in positions of responsibility are causing the problems by 'inciting and promoting hatred' to get votes or make profits. Police who defer to white supremacism as "free speech" are causing the problems, validating hatred and allowing hatred public space to spread and grow, escorting and protecting white supremacist hate marches through crowds of decent Canadians there to oppose their messages of hatred. Police have even violently pushed such people aside to escort white supremacists through (eg, Toronto Police Services). Police, national security agencies and Attorneys General who fail to monitor and lay charges against white supremacist propagandists online are causing problems. We have the laws to draw the lines between free speech and inciting or promoting hatred: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-319.html Public incitement of hatred 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction. Wilful promotion of hatred (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction. In Canada, we now need the public will and demand that they be applied systematically to prevent the spread of hatred.

2nd link in the OP. RCMP/CSIS downplay far right extremism. Good analyses in this article below from Australia - home of the shooter - but true in Canada and the US too: https://theconversation.com/christchurch-attacks-are-a-stark-warning-of-toxic-political-environment-that-allows-hate-to-flourish-113662?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1552790316 "The result has been such a cacophony of hateful rhetoric that it has been hard for those tasked with spotting the emergence of violent extremism to separate it from all the background noise of extremism. ... But ultimately, we need to address the permissive political environment that allows such hateful extremism to be promulgated so openly. The onus is on commentators and political leaders alike. They cannot change the past, but they will determine the future." The onus is on police and the justice system too, to clarify lines between free speech and inciting or promoting hatred. Police have been escorting white supremacists' marches around Canada like they're visiting dignitaries. Andrew Scheer and Maxine Bernier are both looking like weasels in their response, or lack of, to the violent deaths of 49 Muslims. It's obvious they don't want to lose their Islamophobic voters.

My concern is that white supremacist terrorists succeed in mass murders because police and security forces don't pay any attention to them. All funding for terrorism is directed at 'Islamic' radicals, with fairly successful prevention. But police don't prevent white supremacist terrorist attacks because they don't look for white supremacists. They only look for 'Islamic' terrorists.

Your logic defies logic.

You mean this? And in Canada, it’s not clear how seriously police and intelligence agencies take the threat of far-right extremism. https://globalnews.ca/news/4188139/far-right-extremely-small-csis/ Get your shit together RCMP & CSIS! ??? You'll have to clarify "profiling.

Not "just". But white supremacists are not getting the same police surveillance and budget allocation as 'Islamic' radicals. Scribblet: no mention of the 'far left' extremists notably ANTIFA who promote violence and incite people to violence. Only against white supremacists ... and who gives a sh!t about them!!! An Australian Senator spoke up about it and is immediately branded racist, anyone questioning illegal immigration or asking questions about it is immediately branded as far right and racist. Yes, he has a rep of being racist.

Nobody ever said terrorists had to be organized cells.

Nonsense. Police could track radical white supremacists as easily as the track 'Islamic' radicals ... IF THEY CHOSE TO.

How many victims of 'Islamic' terror attacks were Muslims?

Exactly, Michael. But the efforts of police, CSIS, etc are focused on Islamic terrorism. And they have prevented some attacks. They don't track white supremacists, they dismiss their importance, consider anti-Muslim hate groups, websites and rallies a matter of "free speech", so police are never able to prevent their attacks.

I'm not your googler. Do your own research.

You have much to learn about our system of government, and the checks and balances on power that are intended to sustain democracy and avoid fascism. Maybe check into other systems too, and then design your own.

Obviously fighters will take more time and investigation. But there are many more women and children. That's what the real conversation is about. In the end, the laws and the courts will decide. All the bleating about stripping people of citizenship is just hysterical nonsense.

Far-right nationalists can no longer be thought of as a fringe group. They're leading one of the major terrorist movements of our time. https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/new-zealand-mosque-shootings-far-right-extremism/ 6 people killed in Quebec. Now 49 killed in New Zealand. If the far right terrorists want to go fight ISIS, they are free to do so. Murdering innocent people praying in a mosque is a coward's act. And all of these violent white supremacists are free to kill where and when they choose BECAUSE THE POLICE AREN'T WATCHING THEM! And in Canada, it’s not clear how seriously police and intelligence agencies take the threat of far-right extremism. https://globalnews.ca/news/4188139/far-right-extremely-small-csis/ Get your shit together RCMP & CSIS!

Thread drift ...

You have much to learn.

We won't be removing citizenship. We will be investigating where possible and laying charges. Leaving Canada to join ISIS is itself an offence.

Law: People cannot be left stateless. People are entitled to due process and a fair trial. The children are innocent. The women may also be subject to charges. Let the law handle it.