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Nonsense. That's a Government of Canada website and document. Shouldn't you at least attempt to comprehend your government as well as immigrants are required to? I can't believe you don't know this stuff!

Nonsense. This useful study guide for immigrants to Canada may help you understand our democracy better: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/discover-canada/read-online/canadas-system-government.html

Canada is not "a Muslim country". Your comments are irrelevant to this topic of refugees arriving and living in Canada, who are fleeing from oppression and violence.

Argus, There never was "parliamentary supremacy". Government has three branches - Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Democracy requires a system of checks and balances that prevent any branch from achieving "supremacy". You are confusing democracy with fascism.

You are really claiming that here, rapists "NEVER EVER" get away with it? Lolol

We have always had exemptions from classes for religious minorities. Notably, some evangelical Christian's don't allow their kids to participate in any Hallowe'en activities, nor Easter bunny/Easter egg, nor Santa/Rudolph ... secular activities around religious holidays. Parents have, in majority, supported availability of sex education in public schools, but that does not mean it can be forced on religious minorities who prefer to do it themselves.

To address the issue directly: You said: There are tens of millions of muslim women living in the western world and they get the full protection of the government, and they don't get threatened with impunity, and they NEVER EVER get raped with impunity. Can you defend that statement? Do you have evidence that "muslim women living in the western world ... NEVER EVER get raped with impunity" ? It's a stupid statement.

Wow. Touchy virulent anti-Muslim much? Lol Women in the western world get raped all the time, and the rapists go free. It's stupid for WestCanMan to claim otherwise ... and stupid for you to pretend that my comment is just about Muslims, or at all about Muslim countries. Take off your bigot blinders. My statement is not at all what you try to make it.

I was not addressing that at all. I was only addressing WestCanMan's ridiculously brain dead and delusional claim: There are tens of millions of muslim women living in the western world and they get the full protection of the government, and they don't get threatened with impunity, and they NEVER EVER get raped with impunity. Who the hell could possibly believe that! It's an absolutely stunningly dense claim. WestCanMan's posts are forever ridiculous to me now.

Well you'll be disappointed to learn that Mandate Housing in Toronto is publicly subsidized rent for housing that is exclusive to certain communities of people - Artists, Germanic, Hellenic, etc and yes, one is for a specific Muslim community. They are privately owned buildings, perhaps not-for-profit, who accept applicants from relevant communities who qualify for public rent subsidy - ie, tenant pays rent of no more than 30% of their total income, and the City pays the rest. IE, The buildings are not funded by the City/government, but some of the residents' rents are subsidized by government. The artists' buildings have normal apartments, and also have a community space that can be booked as a gallery for art shows, among other things. Not particularly designed for artists, but flexibly useful for them. Interestingly, the 1 bedroom artist apartment that I saw had been organized by the artist tenant as follows: Bedroom - used as a supply/storage room for personal art collection, art supplies and equipment. Living/diningroom - then totally empty, but used for setup as an art studio for painting and other artistic work, some quite large. A loft (added) hung by chains above the Livingroom contained a bed. Lol Artists are creative!

living in the western world ... "they NEVER EVER get raped with impunity." Hahahahahahahaha!!! What dream world do you live in? Women get raped all the time "with impunity". That's why there's #metoo. Duh. And there should also be #mentoo

Lol Seriously?! Our democracy DEPENDS on being free to criticize our governments. Slavish devotion to a political leader is not required, is in fact anti-democratic, and if imposed on the public, is fascist.

Great info, Rue. In sum, all is progressing well.

1) You seem to be referring to assessing candidates for immigration according to Canadian "values" that reflect the (Liberal) Charter of Rights and Freedoms, bitterly fought by Conservatives and still not accepted by some (eg, Harper). It's just laughably self-serving to hear ultra-conservatives like yourself now so strongly embracing those Liberal Charter "values" ... to serve your purpose of discriminating against Muslims. Lol 2) Argus: "I don't think the law would have a problem with setting criteria which put potential immigrants who seem flexible and adaptable as more desirable than those who showed a rejection of Canadian mores and values." I do think "the law" would have a problem with that as it violates the Charter right to freedom of expression, a right heavily defended by the Supreme Court (ie, "the law"), and also by white supremacists to protect their own 'hate speech', for example. I also think you yourself would never pass such criteria for immigration ... unless you lied! (And lying is grounds for denial of immigration, and for deportation if discovered later.) 'Oh what a tangled web you weave, when first you practice to deceive' people into thinking it's ok to discriminate against the freedom of expression of 'some people', while defending your own right to the same. Just weirdly disingenuous - ie, deceitful.

Really? You spend a huge amount of time on here arguing that 'certain groups' (ie, non-'Europeans', especially Muslims) should not be accepted as immigrants or refugees to Canada. 15 years, over 47,000 posts, Argus, mostly anti-Muslim: "Muslims make me very uncomfortable." (Argus, 2004) Some things don't change. Lol A question: If you support immigration from "some countries" (eg, 'European') over others, how could you weed out and deny immigration to Muslims from European countries? Wouldn't it serve your purposes more directly to simply deny immigration to Muslims from any/all countries?

It's very odd that a far-right conservative like yourself chooses liberal values as the ones that define Canada. It's also very odd that you would like to see such liberal "values" entrenched as law, an idea that is a total non-starter, since such infringement on individual rights would never be upheld by Canadian courts. I am gob-smacked that you would think that anyone in Canada would accept a law that forced them to shake anybody's germy hands. Lol You have truly lost contact with reality. I go no closer than a fist bump with mitts on during these cold/flu ridden days. Lol

Congratulations! You have successfully shown that refugees - who come from strife-torn countries where they have lost everything - take longer to do well in Canada than voluntary business class immigrants who enter the country with considerable assets. Give the man a star! Lol

Whether one chooses to transmit germs through skin contact or not is a personal choice, not a criterion for 'choosing' immigrants. What a very strange and irrelevant idea, certainly not defensible in law. And criteria for accepting immigrants must be defensible in law, of course. Wouldn't you agree?

Link?

Are you?

Ya, he's a sociopathic snake like Trump. Amazing how conservatives are so susceptible to sociopaths.

Most white supremacists probably are "simple minded cretin(s) who practices the politics of division, hatred and jealousy. " Other white supremacists are sociopaths. Your recommendation that white supremacists conduct interviews of visible minority immigrant applicants is noted.

There are good interview techniques, and bad ones. Define your preference.

Perhaps, as a white supremacist, you are not the best judge of people nor the best authority on ways of judging people. The law does not allow for subjective, unreliable judgements of people as you suggest. Criminal and employment records are more reliable indicators. It's so ironic that far right conservatives in Canada have fought viciously against every piece of liberal legislation entrenching equal rights, human rights, including the Charter of Rights and Freedoms itself. And now they invoke all of those rights of marginalized people to use against visible minority immigrant applicants in attempts to define them as undesirables ... in prejudiced ways that defy Canadian law.

Interviews are only as effective as the interviewer, and we don't fund the process sufficiently to hire professionally competent interrogators. In fact, it's unlikely that people exist who can detect criminality (terrorism is criminality) by that method. Sociopaths are very adept at charm and persuasion, most likely to succeed in an interview and any other contacts with authority, law enforcement and justice. Placing too much emphasis on interviews would be likely to result in more terrorists/criminals immigrating to Canada. Your assumptions that interviews are useful are not necessarily valid.