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I think it makes great sense. Why not move out all the jobs, so that millions can start to immigrate out of North America. First Nations have been asking for this for centurys.

They wanted to charge Bush, and place him under trial in Swizerland for warcrimes. Which is why his flight never dropped in there. So opinions may very, but the fact of the matter, he is wanted for warcrimes in other countrys, and countrys like Swizerland are willing to place him under trial.

First Nations have been waiting for Quebecers to seperate, so that they can start filling up banana boats, and ship them back to France where they come from. Isn't Canada a bunch of seperatists, they seperated from Britian. How many times can immigrants serperate themselves.

Does the bible respect children or burials of children after they are slaughtered and raped in the name of the bible. Or is just the same as Indian Residential Schools. Just throw them in a random hole and piss on them. Maybe give the kids brother a 10 thousand dollar payment 30 years later for harsh mistreatment.

So would you agree with others around the world, that the following needs to be done. These are demands by human rights groups in the Americas. "1. Support a motion before the United Nations General Assembly and the International Criminal Court to establish an International War Crimes Tribunal into Genocide in Canada. "2. Surrender to this Tribunal all evidence held by your government and the churches in question pertaining to any and all crimes committed against indigenous people and their land, including murder and Genocide. "3. Surrender to this Tribunal the names of all persons who are guilty of such crimes in the Indian Residential Schools. "4. Respond publicly to the allegations of Genocide made against your government and the churches in question by survivors of the residential schools. "5. Revoke the charitable, tax free status of the churches in question on the grounds that they are accused of having committed and concealed crimes against humanity, and should therefore not be subsidized and aided by the public until these allegations are proved or disproved. This means placing high ranking Church Officials and Politicians in prison. are you willing to do that.

Well the creation story is simple. Some peoples ancesters come from africa, and monkeys. Others believe that some virgin spit out 6 kids and the world started. Others believe aliens built the Pyrimids. All I can tell you, is your likely created by having your moms toes in the air, with your pappy going to town on her. Thats how creation started, and why we are all here today.

Here is a fact about he bible. Over 100 thousand FIrst Nations children don`t have a gravesite, or have been located after being murdered, raped, slaughtered, torchured, all in the name of Bible Teachings at Residential Schools. You would think people have respect for children, but such a hateful religion won`t even give the children they murdered, a proper ceremony for death. They just throw most kids in a hole and pissed on them when they left. Thats what the Bible Teaches First Nations In North America.

Its funny you say that. First Nations have been saying that since 1492.

I asked you to look at First Nations in Canada, and places around the world, where the Bible was used to commit genocide, terrorism, medical experimentation, rape, torchure, loosly organized pedephile rings, murder, biological terrorism, biological warfare, and abducting children from there homes. All in the name of and the Teachings of Christ. The Christ Teachings have indoctrinated hundreds of millions by the masses. It has allowed for that faith to burn thousands of women at the stake in Salom Witch Trials, it allowed for hundreds of thousands to be removed from there homes, and placed into residential schools, where all the criminal activities took place. The Racketeering laws need to be applied to the Churches, they are a criminal organization disguised as a religion. They were responsible for hiding Nazi war criminals, Genocide in North America, Genocide in Australia, Genocide in Africa, all in the name of Christs teachings. If anything they should be considered a Terrorist Organization because of the world atrocities they are responsible for.

Btw, I used to be a Catholic. I read and try to understand the Bible for myslef....because I don't want to be misled. Anyway, do you even know what being a Christian is? I'm talking about a Christian who truly tries to be a follower of Christ....not just some self-professing Christian only when it's convenient. DO you know the teachings of Christ?

A lot of people don't realize. But nobody can seperate from First Nations. Not Quebec, or some NDP. If they want to seperate, they have to go back to the countrys they immigrated from.

So you support Genocidal Maniacs called the Christian Religion, and Churches associated with its god. http://www.canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/guatemalan_genocide.html The Church is responsible for Genocide, Murder, Torchure, Rape, Biological Terrorism, Terrorism, Abductions, and ethnic cleansing. I don't see why others would be indoctrinated with such false, and deadly beliefs. Vancouver, May 23: On Thursday, May 20, 2004, a representative of three major indigenous groups in Guatemala presented a formal protest letter or "denuncia" to Monica Izaguire of the Canadian Embassy in Guatemala City. This protest letter accused Canada and its mainline churches of committing and concealing acts of Genocide against its native populations for more than a century, in their Indian Residential Schools and hospitals. The letter called for the Canadian government to support an international investigation into these allegations of Genocide by Canada and its churches. The letter was endorsed and signed by the Defensoria Indigena, the Consejo de Esperanza of San Andres Itzapa, and the Consejo Asesor Indigena of San Andres Itzapa. To quote the letter, "To the Government and Prime Minister of Canada, "We are deeply alarmed and concerned by the fact that crimes of Genocide are alleged to have been committed against the indigenous peoples of Canada by your government and by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, Presbyterian and United Church of Canada. "According to eyewitnesses and official documentation, these crimes are alleged to include murder, torture, rape, involuntary sexual sterilization, forced labour, biological warfare, medical experimentation, land theft, cultural eradication, pedophilia, and the conducting of a prolonged war of extermination against non-Christian aboriginal people. "These crimes are alleged to have occured for more than a century in the state-sponsored and church-run Indian Residential Schools which legally interred every Indian child across Canada between the years 1890 and 1984. During this period, more than 50,000 children died in these schools, according to the statistics of your own Department of Indian Affairs. Most of the bodies of these dead children have never been located or recovered. "According to the evidence before us, paid employees and officials of these Indian Residential Schools perpetrated, condoned and concealed every act defined as Genocide by the United Nations Convention on the Prevention of Genocide, which was passed by the United Nations General Assembly in 1948, and ratified by Canada in 1952. "The same evidence indicates that the highest officials of church and state in Canada knew of these crimes and continually approved them as a matter of policy. As such, your government and the churches in question appear to be responsible for having committed and concealed intentional Genocide, as defined by the United Nations. "We understand that your government and the churches in question have only acknowledged the physical and sexual attacks on native children in these schools, and have refused to take responsibility for any of the other crimes attested to by eyewitness survivors. In this way, your institutions can be considered to be openly violating international law, and holding yourselves unaccountable for crimes against humanity committed by your employees and accountable officials. "As representatives of indigenous organizations throughout the Americas, we therefore call upon your government and the churches in question to abide by morality and international law, and do the following: "1. Support a motion before the United Nations General Assembly and the International Criminal Court to establish an International War Crimes Tribunal into Genocide in Canada. "2. Surrender to this Tribunal all evidence held by your government and the churches in question pertaining to any and all crimes committed against indigenous people and their land, including murder and Genocide. "3. Surrender to this Tribunal the names of all persons who are guilty of such crimes in the Indian Residential Schools. "4. Respond publicly to the allegations of Genocide made against your government and the churches in question by survivors of the residential schools. "5. Revoke the charitable, tax free status of the churches in question on the grounds that they are accused of having committed and concealed crimes against humanity, and should therefore not be subsidized and aided by the public until these allegations are proved or disproved. "We are communicating this appeal to the world community and its media, prior to further public action on this matter." This statement has been delivered to the world press, as the first in a series of further denuncias anticipated by the Guatemalan indigenous groups, which are working with The Truth Commission into Genocide in Canada to make these facts known. For more information, contact The Truth Commission into Genocide through this email or (in Canada) at 1-888-265-1007.

How can the oppressor be the victim?? Did the victim suddenly feel guilty?? lol This is not a new story, around the world with Christianity. Its really the devils work. Look at australia, u.s.a, canada. How could all the churches be the victim if they didn't just do it in one country but every country they were involved with. People need to stop practicing such a hateful religion that is responsible for so much turmoil around the world.

So let me guess, your ancesters were monkeys and they lived in Africa. DNA is whats is indigenious to North America. Nobody else can claim that.

So Betsy wants people to just have normal lives, like nothing happened after this sort of trauma. Thinks that its as easy as councilling somebody back to healthy. That is a joke, Betsy you are a joke.

Here is a few stories of faith being pushed onto others. Howard Wanna, 60, is an enrolled member of the Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate, whose homeland straddles North and South Dakota. He has terminal lung cancer and recently celebrated what doctors tell him will be his last birthday. Wanna and several siblings entered Tekakwitha Orphanage, in Sisseton, South Dakota, around 1956. Despite the institution’s name, there were few orphans among the approximately 150 American Indian children housed there at any one time. Some had been taken from their parents for reasons that were not fully; others, like the Wanna children, were placed there by desperately poor parents who believed the priests and nuns they revered would care for and educate their offspring. When Wanna lived at Tekakwitha, the wooded, estate-like complex included a Southwest Mission-style church; the Papoose House, a nursery for children ranging in age from newborns to five-year-olds; dormitories for boys and girls aged 6 to early teens, with nuns and priests living upstairs; and a separate house for the priest in charge, John Pohlen. Here is Wanna’s story: “When I first arrived at Tekakwitha at age four or five, the nuns and priests seemed welcoming, as though they wanted me to think of the place as my home. This friendliness went on for several weeks. Then one day, Father Pohlen came to the Papoose House, where I was living, and took me by the hand. He led me to the church, where we went behind the altar to a little room that had nothing in it but a chair. “Father Pohlen sat me down, unzipped his pants, took his penis out, and began to wipe it on my face and lips. I was terrified. I didn’t know what was happening. In later sessions, sometimes behind the altar and sometimes at his house, suddenly I’d be choking and something would be running out of my mouth. He’d also turn me around and rape me, hurting me badly as he used his hands to grip my hair, neck, or shoulders. “He rotated among about five of us younger boys, which left me with such confused emotions. On days it wasn’t my turn, I was so grateful, yet I felt terrible that one of my little friends was suffering. I also dreaded the fact that my day was coming again soon. Worst of all, I had no one to turn to, not even God, because God’s representative on earth was the one hurting me. “Soon a nun began to abuse me as well, placing me under her gown and rubbing my little hands between her legs. This was something the nuns did to other children there, too. It was horrifying, not just because of what she was doing but because it was dark and I couldn’t breathe. Other abuse included beating us with sticks, hoses, and even a metal shovel. “The cruelty was strangely inventive. At bath time, we’d line up, a line of naked girls and a line of naked boys, which was embarrassing to begin with. We’d take turns jumping into a laundry tub and being scrubbed—scratch, scratch, scratch—with a stiff brush you’d use for floors. We’d then hop out of the tub with scrapes all over our bodies. “Once, after I tried to run away, I had to wear a dress for a while, and when we went outdoors I was tied to a tree. “Tekakwitha was a very quiet place. You’d think with all those children, there’d be noise and laughing. But so many of us were being abused and simply didn’t talk. We were too frightened. It was like a horror movie in which people walk by each other but can’t communicate. “As the years went by, my abuse lessened, probably because I wasn’t a cute little toy anymore, but also because I became more outspoken. I remember being told I was a smart-ass. When I was 8 or 9—we had no sense of time, because at Tekakwitha there were no markers, like birthday celebrations—my mother got wind of what was going on and came and ranted and raged. I heard they told her something like, ‘Take the little bastards,’ and we left. “My adulthood was one hell of a struggle. But I fought through my failures and obstacles, went to college, and owned a restaurant and a construction company. “[i believe] the Church caused the drinking and other problems former students experience. As a result, the tribe must sponsor chemical-dependency, suicide-prevention, anger-management, and many other programs, which is an enormous economic burden. At Sisseton Wahpeton, we just had three suicides, all youngsters in their 20s, and this happens frequently. Why? It’s the result of how we elders were treated as children—an effect that continues through the generations. “I often wonder how so many pedophiles ended up at Native American schools. Father Pohlen was not only a pervert; he also hired the worst of the worst, which meant none of the Tekakwitha staff would protect us from the others. How did he find them? Is there someone in the Church you can call to request problem priests and nuns? Was there a dual plan to hurt Native Americans while taking care of the pedophiles? Was this genocide? It’s so confusing, but it’s also just plain evil. “When the orphanage was demolished in 2010 [because of Environmental Protection Act issues], my relatives and I went to watch. Suddenly, during the demolition, we saw three eagles circling overhead, rising up and flying down low repeatedly for about 45 minutes. They had come to take home the spirits of the children. It was so awesome. “I have sued the Church over my abuse, but because of my cancer I’m going to die with this on my mind, well before any chance of receiving justice. The people we looked up to most as children failed us. God’s servants blocked our power and took away our spirits. But we’ll get ’em back. By telling our stories, we’re opening a door, and we’re not going to let it shut until we’re done with them. No amount of compensation can cure us or absolve them, but we want our day in court. We want the public to hear what was happening to many Native American children in this country while non-Native people lived peacefully in their cities and towns and on their farms. Millions don’t know what we went through, and they need a quick history lesson. It’ll be a hard one, but it’s a fact.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1946, when she was just three months old, Mary-Catherine Renville, 65, of the Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate, was taken from her mother for reasons that remain unclear and placed in Tekakwitha Orphanage. After Tekakwitha, which went through junior high, she was sent to a boarding school in Nebraska. Here is Renville’s story: “All I remember of my earliest years at Tekakwitha was being hungry and a punishment that consisted of being placed in a dark crawl space. When I was 6, they moved me from the Papoose House for babies to the main building so I could start school. The nuns there would take us to their private quarters and do things to our bodies that even at that young age I knew were not right. “The next year, a teenaged boy raped me. He said if I told, he’d bring other boys, and they’d all rape me. I was so frightened that I never did say anything. “When I was 8 or 9, Father Pohlen placed me with a Michigan family. I understood it was a tryout for being adopted by them. I have a memory of being told to go get Vaseline, then returning to the room to find the boys and men in the family waiting for me. This lasted for a summer. “I didn’t know where to turn or who to tell. Father Pohlen had placed me with the family, so I couldn’t confide in him, and the nuns were so cold—they didn’t care about our feelings and showed us no affection. They wanted our souls and to teach us to fear God. Sometimes they’d whip us, holding us with the left hand while using the right to beat us with a rubber hose. None of the adults in my life ever noticed anything about me: whether I’d sustained injuries because of the rapes or mistreatment or if I was afraid. “When I was about 10, Father Pohlen placed me with a Spanish-speaking dentist, who wanted to teach me his language so I could speak it once he and his wife adopted me and took me to their country. Instead, he raped me and said he wanted to continue his ‘affair’ with me, though I mustn’t tell his wife. After several weeks, I was returned to the orphanage. Again, I never said anything to Father Pohlen or the nuns, other than that I didn’t want to learn Spanish or live with that man. I’d learned that to protect myself I shouldn’t say much. “We did have good times. At Christmas, we each received a shoebox full of nuts and candy and oranges and another box with trinkets and a doll. Most of us girls traded the dolls for food. We did that because the Mother Superior used to force us to simulate sex with a large doll before abusing us, so we were scared of dolls. Can you imagine putting the fear of dolls into a child’s mind? “The Nebraska boarding school where I went to high school subjected us to similar physical violence, though no sexual abuse. We all continually tried to escape. We weren’t trying to get home, because we didn’t know where that was. We were completely disoriented. We just took off and took our chances in the world, hitchhiking down the road. Then they’d find us and bring us back. “As an adult, I’ve been a traveler. I’ve lived in 14 states, mostly waitressing, because it’s a job you can get quickly. I’d always move on, though. I think I was searching for family. I eventually had three children, who were taken from me or I gave up. I don’t know where my boys are, though I keep in touch with my girl. Now, I’m back living on my reservation, which sometimes feels like a foreign country, though I’m related to half the people here. “What I want to do is talk about Tekakwitha. They took away our sense of belonging to anyone, our opportunities to develop relationships. They kept us off-balance by sending us here and there without warning. But they could never take away the truth: that what they were doing was wrong. I want everyone to know what happened to us there.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As Sherwyn Zephier, 54, drives to his job at Ihanktonwan Community College, in Marty, South Dakota, where he is the adult education director and teaches math, science, English, art history, and other subjects, he passes the derelict buildings of what was St. Paul’s Indian Mission. During the 1960s and 1970s, he was a student at the Catholic-run school, where children were required to board during the nine-month school year, even though many, like Zephier, were from the surrounding community, the Yankton Sioux Tribe. Here is Zephier’s story: “The priests’ and nuns’ keys jangled as they walked, so we knew when they were coming. Everyone in the dorm would quiet down, because you never knew what they’d do. Sometimes they’d bring high school students or more priests and brothers to hold our arms and press our bodies against a metal pole in the center of the room. Then they’d beat us with straps and a two-by-four with handles, which they called the ‘board of education.’ “There were also regular whippings at noon. One day, my older brother, Loren, created a commotion at midday so just that once we little ones escaped the whipping. Because we showered together in one large room, we could always see that many of us were bruised black, blue and purple. The beatings were so frequent, we adapted to the pain and got used to living that way. “The nuns were as vicious as the priests—real brutes. I remember getting caught in the barbed wire around the top of the little boy’s playground. I’d seen Loren go by and had tried to go over the fence to get to him. Once the nuns got me untangled, I got quite a beating. At night, they’d pretend they’d left us, then stand in the dark corners of the dorm room, eerie in their hooded robes. “The school was essentially a prison, with every door locked and total control of the children. We went in supervised groups from one secured place to another: to lunch, play, church, the dorm, and so on. Even if you managed to get out of a dorm room or classroom, you couldn’t run far, because at the end of each corridor was a locked floor-to-ceiling gate. The windows were covered with bars or chain-link grates, and the campus had barbed wire everywhere—along sidewalks and even around the church itself. “As children, we didn’t know their policy was to de-Indianize us. We only knew we enjoyed one another’s company and would play games, such as ‘migs,’ or marbles, that involved phrases in our language. Another student would inevitably run and ‘tell Sister,’ and I would get a beating. At the time, they never explained my infraction. Just recently, the reality hit me hard: it was because I had so frequently spoken my language with my playmates. I suddenly understood why those snitches, often from more assimilated families, ‘told’ and why I was punished so often. “Another aspect of assimilation was taking away ribbon shirts and other culturally related clothes. Every year, I looked forward to wearing clothing my mother spent most of the summer sewing to make me look proud and colorful for school. But once I got there, those items were removed, and instead I wore clothes that were drab and not even mine. “The child-molesters would come and go, as the Church rotated them among the Indian missions. We children stood by each other as best we could, but for a child, it was a disturbing, sickening place to be. I have often wondered, where did the nuns and priests learn those things? “My class, 1975, was the last to graduate from St. Paul’s Indian Mission, which then passed to tribal control and became Marty Indian School. At our commencement, a medicine man, Pete Catches, was allowed for the first time to fill his sacred pipe on the altar and pray with us. “There’s beauty in our traditional ways. There’s honor, honesty—no lies, no judgment, no exaggeration. It’s the true experience of life. There’s no interpreting of someone else’s words, and no one else interpreting your experience. No one can tell you what is good or bad. That’s where the Church confused a lot of our people, conditioning them to think the traditional way of prayer was evil, the devil’s way. And if you didn’t believe them, they’d beat you. “After I filed my lawsuit against the Church—with the blessings of my most revered supporter and hero, my father—I started talking about my experience to sisters, brothers and cousins who had also attended St. Paul’s. It was a relief to sit with them—to share and to cry. We knew what we experienced was unfathomable to others.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hundreds of thousands of people in North America can't just "Turn the tap off" when dealing with Christianity, and religion in North America. Nobody has ever went to prison for any of this stuff. If the Jews can get people charged for warcrimes 60 years after the fact, then I don't see why we can't charge the Pope, Churches, and whoever was involved up on warcrimes and genocide. http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/07/south-dakota-boarding-school-survivors-detail-sexual-abuse/

The only problem with the 1701 treaty was the fact 6 nations just suffered a huge defeat at the battle of skull mound in "Saugeen" area to the Chippewa/Ojibway/Potawatimi/Odawa people over the Fur and Flint trade in the 1690's, and they were run back to New York State, Penn State. Since the 3 Fires confederacy were considered hostile towards the British, the British made the "Nanfan Treaty 1701", over lands in southwestern ontario with a tribe who didn't have any control or people located in southern ontario. So basically the British made a treaty over lands either governments had control over, and with each other. The battle of skullmound, is a famous battle, where some 700 warriors were killed off, with the exception of 1 skull, and each skull was placed into a large mound. The one remaining Mohawk survivor was left to see the skull mound, and tell his people of this defeat. This was the largest defeat of the Mohawks in there history. Chippewa's would even say that they were never fairly compansated for the Haldimond tract, since that was Ojibway terroritory, and they never lost a war over that land. Onieda First Nations still owns 1/6th of Six Nations, and the moneys that came with that war prize. Every Chippewa/Ojibway still laughs this Nanfan treaty out of the room. The majority of the people in Ontario were all 3 Fires Confederacy nations. So I disagree with that part of the treatys. Then after chief pontiac, treaties started to pop up. The Niagara Treaty, then the BNA act. The BNA act was made in a foriegn country, for a foriegn country, and has never been legal. The BNA act never had any of the nations who it effected involved with the act. It would be no different then Canada passing legislation for Lybia.

are we getting so pathetic we are arguing which death rate was worse. Some reports that with the Biological warfare from North American Governments or (Smallpox) blankets and disease that was distributed, that between 70% and 90% of the Native Population was exterminated, and almost to extinction, with the extinction of total tribes, languages, and cultures. The Jews still have there culture, language, and a homelands to call there own. First Nations have reserves or Ghettos and own less then 1% of the land in Canada. You have to factor in, that in the U.S.A, the Indian Removal Policy allowed monetary rewards for brutal murders like "Scalping". Some would pay 10 cents a scalp as a bounty on FIrst Nations people in North America. Hitler wouldn't even get that brutal by having brutal murders payed with a bounty. Although the result of death was the same in both instances. So I would disagree that the Jews had it worse then First Nations. We are talking about decades of oppression, not just a part of a decade. Look at Canada for instance, they turned away a boatload of Jewish people during the second world war, and sent them back to death camps or wherever. Just shows that WW2 was never about saving any people, other then caucazoids in europe.

Except what you believe in, starts to manipulate and control your thoughts. I'm wondering why Batman never took off as a religion. He faught evil minded fictional characters too, just like Jesus and the Devil.

Religion needs to be banned. What brainwashing scheme to control the masses.

Something that happened 40 years ago, is not something you forget overnight. You have to remember that these children were abducted by the Churchs and Canadian Government, from this the parents never learned how to love, hug, nurture, pass on traditions, and be apart of a community and family setting. How are going to tell a grown man or women to forget that they were raped, tortured, and abducted without the guilty partys ever being prosocuted or charged. This stuff lives in there minds like it happened yesterday. I would like to see how your kids would handle being torchured, raped, witness murder, and being abducted from there parents, with losing your childhood to a foreign religion. Then 40 years after, people like me can say, that was so long ago, so forget about it, and forget about what happened. Just like you are telling me.

Easy way to win the war. Just send some priests to that country, and convert them all to christian with bibles in there hands. Place and forceably remove all the children in Libya into Indian Residential Schools, just like Canada. Give the children a 51% death rate for decades at a time. Immigrate so that 96% of the population is immigrants, while selling off the resources like Oil, gold, or whatever, and launder it off to the world market. Then place the Libyians under a form of the 'Indian Act", so that we can keep the "natives" out of the economy for 100's of years at a time. We can create a new country, and make all the immigrants citizans of this new country "BallSack", and we can have a bunch of "BallSackians" running around the country. After the Libyians figure out that they have been oppressed and murdered off, we can place them all in prison, and blame them for all of there social problems afterwards. Just like Canada.

The Canadian Holocaust seems like small potatoes. Although they sported a higher death rate then the Jewish Holocast, and the death rate lasted for decades at a time. First Nations don't get the type reports and news that would have showed the rest of the world, how genocidal Canada is and was. First Nations could easily call any residential school a death camp, because thats exactly what they were. All the while, Immigrants profited off of First Nations resources and lands, without ever winning a war, or having to go to war for the land.

Jewish death rate was only 44% for a few years. First Nations had a death rate of 51% in residential schools for decades.

Why the 32 million immigrants who cowardly ran away from there countrys is beyond me. They come to North America, and assume since they were born on stolen property, they automatically become a citizan of stolen property, they assume they own superior rights. They have no more rights then belonging to the Walmart Corporation. Canada and United Nations are a both jokes, and might aswell be considered Terrorist Organizations. They don't care about human rights. United Nations has never done a thing for First Nations in Canada. They won't even put Canada up on Terrorism and genocide charges for Indian Residential Schools.