GWiz

Here it is... "Let me assist you in describing the NDP as you described the Liberals..." You're learning my friend... But slowly... "As ye sow so shall ye reap." also "Life is an echo. What you send out - you get back. What you give - you get." Try a little R.E.S.P.E.C.T and you may get that back too...

Oh, what, sorry, I thought you already knew... I guess you MISSED the **"operative" line in my post... Want me to go back and get it for you or can you look it up yourself? **Definition of OPERATIVE 1a : producing an appropriate effect : efficacious b : most significant or essential <the operative word in a phrase> line -

Yep, already caught one, a WHOOPER called Saipan!

punked Punked... Gotta love it! "When you're tough on yourself, life is going to be infinitely easier on you." - Zig Ziglar

Good idea...

What's more I know how to troll for fish... You obviously don't...

Awww, take heart, the NDP went UP 2 points...

You're the arch-typical NDPer; when you got nothing blame the Liberals... Let me assist you in describing the NDP as you described the Liberals... No wonder you love the NDP so much it isn't about what you believe... It is ONLY about winning whatever seats you can to make the NDP look relevent when 85+% of Canadians know they are no longer relevent on the Canadian political scene... The NDP would sell out their own mother for a single extra seat in parliament which is why they attack the Liberals at every turn instead of attacking the Government even though it gives the CONS exactly what they want from the NDP... I think you are thinking of the NDP, in the NDP party if you lose seats you get tossed... Historically no NDP leader has survived a lose of NDP seats including Ed Broadbend who was the best leader, with the most seats, the NDP ever had... The NDP under Layton are a party of "has beens" that stand for nothing, certainly not labour and/or the downtrodden... A FACT that people like Ed Broadbend and Buzz Hargrove, staunch old TIME NDPers that actually cared about what the NDP stood for during their TIME, have stated publicly... Since I'm not a member of the Liberal party so I think I'm a whole lot more "unbiased" than YOU are... So feel free to say anything you want, especially against the Liberals, 'cause it's no skin of my false teeth even if the Liberals were to end up in 4th place, putting the NDP in 5th, after the next election, whenever that may be... Let me analyze this the way you did: The NDP lose 12 seats, the Bloc stays the same, and the CONS and Liberals each gain 6... Where would that leave the NDP in the "political spectrum"? Hmmm, I think I could live with that outcome... POWER to the BLOC (better them than the NDP)!

So?

Me thinks that Layton isn't looking to lose seats 'cause that'd mean him being tossed by the party on his... Sooooooooo, he's going to vote FOR the budget by taking "credit" for something in the budget, even if Harper doesn't give him a thing, which he won't 'cause I think Harper wants this election... As for your assessment of the numbers; I find it rather starange that ONLY the NDP numbers are "skewed" and the rest, particularily for the Liberals, are "spot on", don't you? You wouldn't be biased in that analysis by any chance? "It's not the situation, but the way we respond to the situation that's important."

"- everyone in the world would like to make more than they currently make." I believe in tennis that's called "game, set, and match"... Thank you for playing...

Said it before... Sayin' it again... Many here seem to think it's over before the fat lady has even come to the stage... I HOPE Harper reads the "tea leaves" wrong again and calls a third meaningless election... Then, hopefully, we get 3 new leaders in TIME for the election after that... ps - the Layton-Harper "coalition" may delay the election until next year but THAT is the only "coalition" we'll ever see... "Character is the ability to carry out a good resolution long after the excitement of the moment has passed." - Cavett Robert

Since there is NO ONE on this little planet called Earth that can know everyone on it and ALL their views on any subject and having negated the premise of the comment with my own viewpoint it is in FACT you that is wrong and not me... "Success is determined by taking the hand you are dealt and utilizing it to the very best of your ability." - Ty Boyd

That's a double negative... But anyway... Hmmm, that's very interesting Shady, or is it "nobody"... What makes YOU think that YOU are one of the people I was referring to? Or perhaps you are just the official representative for a certain group of people on this board, or in fact this whole board, to make such a bold statement? BTW - Ever hear the expression "crazy like a fox"? "Imagination is the strongest nation on earth."

It's also possible THAT could be called "contributing to the deliquency of a minor"...

Pliny wrote - "- everyone in the world would like to make more than they currently make." I disagree and said so... You are entitled to YOUR opinion but not mine... "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Anything is possible...

Also true... "Where there's a will there's a way, where there's no will there's no way." "You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today." - Abraham Lincoln "We are free up to the point of choice, then the choice controls the chooser." - Mary Crowley

When trolling you need to have a good spinner bait on the end of your line... You won't catch anything using a barbless hook...

Now THAT is funny... The people who on other thread's think ordinary people should have NO RIGHTS, preferring them as serfs to the plutocracy, crying about "free speech"... Keep it coming... I'm having FUN!

Oops, wrong thread...

True, but that relates more to our political system and won't change in the forseeable future... Truly good people have the ability to overcome many of the "deficits" of our system which in TRUTH boils down to who the Leader of the Party is... That also determines to a great extent the QUALITY of the people running under that party's banner...

1. Liberals -- within and without caucus -- are weary of the decade-long leadership tong wars. They saw what it did to the party's fortunes, and they don't want it to happen again. Having emerged from the political burn unit, they don't want to go back there. 2. They're not ready yet. Liberals need more money, more on-the-ground strength, and a winning ballot question. The Grits require more time to get Ignatieff and the party battle- ready. 3. Ignatieff is a better politician than what he was. Unlike his predecessor, he speaks French and English well, he doesn't favour a carbon tax, and he's getting increasingly comfortable in his skin. He also has been wildy underestimated by the Harper team, which is never a bad thing. 4. If some Grits are again agitating for a pre-campaign leadership coup, there is no obvious successor waiting in the wings. Justin Trudeau and Martin Cauchon are facing tough election battles in their Montreal constituencies, while the likes of David McGuinty and Dominic LeBalanc are focused more on the daily task of opposing the prime minister, and not the Leader of the Opposition. All four are terrific leadership material, but all four are focused on the task at hand. 5. Liberals know the moment someone moves to dump Ignatieff, Harper will make his move, too -- for an election. The Tory leader will concoct some pretext to rush to the polls while Grits are in the midst of a costly, time-consuming leadership contest. So, the Liberal leader you see is the Liberal leader you'll get. Liberals are girding for battle. With Michael Ignatieff. - Not really a bad analysis of the situation, especially the one I put in bold... You wanna do one on Layton being at 13% and dropping now?

Not me... Speak for yourself please... "When we change the input into our minds, we change the output into our lives." - unknown

You sound disappointed...