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This is not about science, but the rights and the democracy itself. We in this country have no meaningful separation of authorities and independent oversight over the bureaucracy. We thought that we had a good judiciary but now have to reassess that as the courts are looking the other way from these issues, under the pretext of emergency. All vaccines mandated before were backed up by decades of studies and provide lifetime or very long protection. Can it be stretched, only on a whim and by a bureaucratic decision without any serious consideration and discussion, to forcing you put something in your body every year? Given the quality of decisions and results so far, like travel from Wuhan? I don't just fear but see it quite well that Canada would emerge from this experience a different society and a country. Decades of blind trust in authority, mental laziness and aversion to any change may have accumulated into a runaway irreversible condition. Canada was not a full contemporary democracy before this; it will emerge still less of it. How much less, could it still be called a democracy in the full sense of the word, we would have to see.

Your one of those guys that talk out of both sides of your mouth, your still plugged in to the power grid, you drive a car, everything you own runs on gas or electricity... move off grid and I'll listen...until then Gretta have a nice day.

Ya i guess so, getting a good job, and paying my own way must have come from the rights side of the morals and values tree... instead off putting your hand out every time there is an election to see who is going to offer the most...But i guess not having a good paying job really means you really don't contribute to the tax base all that much, do you.

Who will ship us money in return so we can pay for your health care.

otoole is you best chance to win lol.. another right wing like harper wont work out right now.

What a laugh. As if the Liberals haven't dragged people off the centre! LOL. But enough of this high-minded stuff about voters. What voters care about is who will pay the most in borrowed cash for their votes. Everything else pales into insignificance. The one thing Trudeau has going for him is he realized this. Doesn't matter whether you're honest, have any integrity, are smart, ethical or have good ideas. Canadians sell their votes to the highest bidder. If China's president ran an admitted proxy here and paid Canadians enough for their votes he'd get elected.

the lefties are fans of the cuckservative since he's just another liberal quelle surprise this is just further proof that Canada's "center" is quite far to the left and the Overton window of acceptable political opinion in Canada is extremely narrow

If he can flip flop looking for popularity, then what is stopping him from doing it again, And what he did flop on are important issues, gun control for one, canceling Justins carbon control plan...Conservatives don't mind center, this is left of center...

It's not about achieving the end result, it's about how. Everyone wants the same end result- no virus no deaths (by Covid...) and no restrictions. Who in their right mind wants otherwise? Main issue for me is, mandating carte-blanche by government. Doug Ford is my family doctor now. He knows my personal illnesses and susceptibility. He sees me when I'm sleeping, knows when I'm awake.