Calling Some One a Racist or Bigot

[capricorn]

There are people who have taken the time to do the research, and develop informed opinions, and then there are the Moxies...

That's funny, coming from someone who doesn't click links.

[Who's Doing What?]

I take it you didn't notice that this thread was about not being allowed to call people bigots?

Just pointing out the obvious in the type of terminology you choose to use. Went over your head I'm afraid.

[kuzadd]

LOL thankyou for stating this, she seems to speak in code. I never understand her posts. Perhaps Englais isn't a language she can write or speak in?

LOL, hilarious.

speak in code, nope.

perhaps it is an inability to read on the part of yourself???

or a simple comprehension issue?

[kuzadd]

And what a waste of time that exercize would be!

oddly enough Argus didn't bother to read some of the rational reasoning that was in my posting.

I'll requote:

In fact it is quite clear the "right"( willingly associated,) is hysterically, over the top, filled with fear, cowering, from every imaginary "attack". Demanding there own freedoms be restricted, so the nanny state can 'keep them safe" (Well we have to make concessions or the terrorists are gonna get us) LOL!

Instead of looking at economic reality, (BTW big banks are in trouble inc. Citi) but hey Muslims are gonna getcha!.

Instead of looking at geopolitical strategy, the coveting of resources, we have "boogeymen" everywhere.

Demons wanting footbaths.

Maniacal bus drivers, with head coverings.

Muslim rioters-watch out!

this is rational???

this is rationality being held in high esteem???

Hilarious.

note the economy is looking as if it is heading for trouble. The stock market has been wobbling alot. The Canada Pension Plan lost money.

A downturn will affect the posters here a great deal more then a footbath, or a headcovering.

But, instead the rampant irrationality of chicken little & the sky is falling.

Geopolitical reality and the coveting of resources, pipelines and big business,

massive war profiteering, what is that? rational reality.

Instead the irrationality of "the Muslims are coming and are going to take over the world hysteria" is regurgitated in all it's hilarity, and presented as "rational" Hilarious!!!!

see , glossed right over, why???

Because some are soooo caught up in fear, they can be nothing but irrational.

[margrace]

And then there are the ones on here who definitly work for big business. Any threat to, for instance, the pivatization of health care, is immediatly met with derision and name calling.

[maxsyno]

oddly enough Argus didn't bother to read some of the rational reasoning that was in my posting.

I'll requote:

note the economy is looking as if it is heading for trouble. The stock market has been wobbling alot. The Canada Pension Plan lost money.

A downturn will affect the posters here a great deal more then a footbath, or a headcovering.

But, instead the rampant irrationality of chicken little & the sky is falling.

Geopolitical reality and the coveting of resources, pipelines and big business,

massive war profiteering, what is that? rational reality.

Instead the irrationality of "the Muslims are coming and are going to take over the world hysteria" is regurgitated in all it's hilarity, and presented as "rational" Hilarious!!!!

see , glossed right over, why???

Because some are soooo caught up in fear, they can be nothing but irrational.

Not only that, it keeps people preoccupied. The media feeds these fears which takes away epoples attention from what really is going on around them -including the globe. It does effect each and everyones lives but the focus has been rivetted on 'terrorism'. Liscence is given to governments to secure the nation through costly irrational security zoning methods. Its still incredibly easy to smuggle 'gadgets' from one country to another despite being searched a couple of times, despite more bureaucracy and long lineups. Government relations with these nations ensure huge money for business but Joe public has to pay for cheap security methods to 'keep them happy' while we let government roll in the tanks which drains the publics resources too! Nonetheless, it is an investment of public money that will line the pockets of those in power. They are forming foundations which caters for the smooth exploitation of nations.

[ScottSA]

Not only that, it keeps people preoccupied. The media feeds these fears which takes away epoples attention from what really is going on around them -including the globe. It does effect each and everyones lives but the focus has been rivetted on 'terrorism'. Liscence is given to governments to secure the nation through costly irrational security zoning methods. Its still incredibly easy to smuggle 'gadgets' from one country to another despite being searched a couple of times, despite more bureaucracy and long lineups. Government relations with these nations ensure huge money for business but Joe public has to pay for cheap security methods to 'keep them happy' while we let government roll in the tanks which drains the publics resources too! Nonetheless, it is an investment of public money that will line the pockets of those in power. They are forming foundations which caters for the smooth exploitation of nations.

If lenin was illiterate, this is pretty much what "What is to be done" would have sounded like...

[White Doors]

Declining that party was one of our proudest moments. But yes, during WWII, people made sacrifices and enlisted. For a country to be at war, the country must be involved.

WTF? Our country IS involved. What is your definition of being involved?

Vimy Ridge was a proud moment in our nations history. Chretien choking out that we were not going to Iraq is not "one of our proudest moments"

Jesus...

Edited November 13, 2007 by White Doors

[White Doors]

And then there are the ones on here who definitly work for big business. Any threat to, for instance, the pivatization of health care, is immediatly met with derision and name calling.

Oh, this reminds me - maybe there could be a quick sanity test for new prospective member to take before being allowed to post? Of course, we could grandmoth.... er grandfather this in.

thanks

[Moxie]

WTF? Our country IS involved. What is your definition of being involved?

Vimy Ridge was a proud moment in our nations history. Chretien choking out that we were not going to Iraq is not "one of our proudest moments"

Jesus...

Was Chretien choking or was it his normal broken Englais? Yes Vimy Ridge is a proud moment for most Canadians. Alas there are the peaceniks and the tree huggers who believe saving Europe and the Jews isn't as important as attaching one's self to a tree screaming save the spruce from the bugssssssssssss. Or selling white poppies to slur the past and present members of the Military. They believe that the White Poppy symbolizes that our troops died for "NOTHING".

Oh, this reminds me - maybe there could be a quick sanity test for new prospective member to take before being allowed to post? Of course, we could grandmoth.... er grandfather this in.

thanks

LOL that's funny.

[Guest coot]

Many American (and Canadian) families are making sacrifices, even if you don't know about it. My country is involved.

Of course many Americans are making sacrifices. Most of them aren't though, most noticeably many of those who are pro-war. There's nothing more cowardly than someone who defines himself as pro-war but does all he can to avoid actually serving, to avoid actually paying any kind of price other than growing a deficit for his grandchildren to pay off.

[bush_cheney2004]

Of course many Americans are making sacrifices. Most of them aren't though, most noticeably many of those who are pro-war. There's nothing more cowardly than someone who defines himself as pro-war but does all he can to avoid actually serving, to avoid actually paying any kind of price other than growing a deficit for his grandchildren to pay off.

Nonsense.....many of those who are "pro-war" just happen to be in the armed forces, or have families waiting for their return. Duh!

[Guest coot]

Nonsense.....many of those who are "pro-war" just happen to be in the armed forces, or have families waiting for their return. Duh!

True, but most aren't. Most burn more gas than ever and support others dying so they can waste more.

[bush_cheney2004]

True, but most aren't. Most burn more gas than ever and support others dying so they can waste more.

Yea, no "wasted gas" in Canada...they just build the gas guzzling SUVs and Trucks in Ontario. LOL!

Edited November 17, 2007 by bush_cheney2004

[bush_cheney2004]

True, but most aren't. Most burn more gas than ever and support others dying so they can waste more.

Yea, no "gas wasters" in Canada...they just build the gas guzzling SUVs and Trucks in Ontario. LOL!

[Guest coot]

LOL indeed. Of course there are gas-wasters in Canada, and Canadian pro-war unenlisted gas-wasters are just as immoral as U.S. or Australian or British pro-war gas-wasters who aren't fighting the good fight.

Edited November 17, 2007 by coot

[bush_cheney2004]

LOL indeed. Of course there are gas-wasters in Canada, and Canadian pro-war unenlisted gas-wasters are just as immoral as U.S. or Australian or British pro-war gas-wasters who aren't fighting the good fight.

Why are they immoral? What makes your "morality" better than anyone elses? Favorite bumper sticker: Bomb their ass and steal their gas!

[Guest coot]

They are immoral because they approve of someone else dying to secure oil that they then just waste in oversized vehicles and unnecessary consumption. How do you justify that?

[bush_cheney2004]

They are immoral because they approve of someone else dying to secure oil that they then just waste in oversized vehicles and unnecessary consumption. How do you justify that?

What do you think petroleum and distillates are for? Burning witches? How do you justify living in a market based economy where consumption is king. Or justify living in a nation (Canada) with one of the highest per-capita energy consumption rates on the planet (HIGHER THAN AMERICANS)?

Edited November 17, 2007 by bush_cheney2004

[Guest coot]

I am in favour of at least making an effort to reduce any needless consumption before sending people to die because I have respect for soldiers' lives.

[bush_cheney2004]

I am in favour of at least making an effort to reduce any needless consumption before sending people to die because I have respect for soldiers' lives.

If you say so...your consumption is still consumption by any measure. Soldiers are employed to engage and kill the enemy of national interests.....they are paid and supported by a strong economy. Canada imports oil to the tune of almost 1 million barrels per day, mostly for the East. How many dead soldiers is that per gallon?

[Guest coot]

If you say so...your consumption is still consumption by any measure.

But I'm opposed to the war. I can consume all I want.

[bush_cheney2004]

But I'm opposed to the war. I can consume all I want.

So can everybody else...pro-war or not. It matters not a damn.

[Guest coot]

Other than it's immoral. But in the grand scheme, I guess we all die anyway. True.

[ScottSA]

Of course many Americans are making sacrifices. Most of them aren't though, most noticeably many of those who are pro-war. There's nothing more cowardly than someone who defines himself as pro-war but does all he can to avoid actually serving, to avoid actually paying any kind of price other than growing a deficit for his grandchildren to pay off.

There's nothing more idiotic than assigning moral or legal weight weight to one's ability to go to war. By your own logic, we should only ask those who are actually going to war, and if we did, you'd have overwhelming numbers of votes in favor of it. Remember, these are young men you're talking to.

But really, the whole excercise is ridiculous, because in a democracy, a granny has as much legal force as a young man, and quite as much right to call the shots for the armed forces. Would you have it any other way?