ALL CANNABIS CANADIANS VOTE GREEN

old_bold&cold · October 28, 2007

You are again misusing the material you have googled and are making statements that are untrue. You an dI had a disagreement on this before and I give in, but said I would research this. I was right, the use you keep saying about cannabiniod receptors, was just a short way to say those receptors that process cannabinniold produces THC etc. These receptors are not as you stated and also as used in the papers you linked to. They are anandamides, which is where you can look up what the receptors are in the actual biology of the brain, and they serve hundreds of purposes, not just for THC processing.

What all the links you put forward refrain form actually naming these, which then allows people to mistakenly think these are only for that purpose. When you say they are uniquely able to process THC. that is not as it stand at face value. They are uniquely able, but they are not uniquely solely to that purpose. It is all just about taking things without the full articles to explain what the intention are. This has been done with much of the literature about pot, by both sides.

I also looked into the possiblitity that if these were unquely purposed, that it would be easy to block the path ways etc.. The long story shortened is this is in no way even close to the case, and if you blocked these, you would also be blocking many of the bodies processes of naturallu occurring homones and probably lead to death. This kind of research has been given up one by most companies and while it was done in the first place ebcause many people were claiming Pot had medicinal properties, all research showed it never had any effects at curing anything but rather was a masking agent at best.

Here is a lnk that many have used where they did actually call the receptors by name, but only after using the term cannabinoid receptors splattered all over the article. Once they named the receptors, it showed they were aware of it. There is a full expalination I do believe from the reports own links etc, about this.

http://www.doitnow.org/pages/126.html

capricorn · October 28, 2007

...many people were claiming Pot had medicinal properties, all research showed it never had any effects at curing anything but rather was a masking agent at best.

A new study shows that the use of cannabis for pain relief is linked to the quantity used. Too much of it actually makes pain worse.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7058193.stm

shavluk · October 29, 2007

A new study shows that the use of cannabis for pain relief is linked to the quantity used. Too much of it actually makes pain worse.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7058193.stm

hahha

***** quote

The team recruited 15 healthy volunteers, in whom pain was induced by injecting capsaicin - the "hot" chemical found in chilli peppers - under their skin.

They were then given cannabis to smoke. The strength of the dose was determined by the tetrahydrocannabinol content, which is the main active chemical in cannabis.

Some of the volunteers were given a placebo.

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hahahahhahahhahaha

What kills me is ,,

The ones in studies of medicine ,,,who get better with the placebo

If I hit my thumb and yours with a sledge hammer ,,which hurts more?

I would assume you are lying and definitely hide the hammer for the next dumb experiment hahhahaha

You are not getting any where near me chili peppers I don't care that they are a band hahhahha

I can honestly say I would have been dead years ago had I not discovered Cannabis.

To each their own but then I don't eat the bible or drink Christs blood so I was at a disadvantage from some others with more programming,,,Cannabis showed me the way.

geoffrey · October 29, 2007

Keep following the way cannabis showed you... to perhaps an English classroom.

Your kind are common there, and maybe we'd understand what the hell it is your saying once in awhile.

capricorn · October 29, 2007

hahha
***** quote

The team recruited 15 healthy volunteers, in whom pain was induced by injecting capsaicin - the "hot" chemical found in chilli peppers - under their skin.

No pain, no gain.

They were then given cannabis to smoke. The strength of the dose was determined by the tetrahydrocannabinol content, which is the main active chemical in cannabis.

I bet you wished you were there.

I can honestly say I would have been dead years ago had I not discovered Cannabis.

Are you sure? Are you very, very sure?

Cannabis showed me the way.

Now that explains a lot. :lol:

Canuck E Stan · October 29, 2007

hahha
***** quote

I can honestly say I would have been dead years ago had I not discovered Cannabis.

........Cannabis showed me the way.

What is the point about having to be under the influence that makes it necessary to have this drug.

Why not trying to abstain from any and all kinds of drug/alcohol?

You should be advocating no usage of any kind of drugs or alcohol.

Advocating for any kind drug/alcohol use tells me you have issues in your life that need addressing.

You gave up your own life when you began to live for cannabis,you've been dead since.

Happy Halloween Shavluk.

timmtc · October 29, 2007

What is the point about having to be under the influence that makes it necessary to have this drug.
Why not trying to abstain from any and all kinds of drug/alcohol?

You should be advocating no usage of any kind of drugs or alcohol.

Advocating for any kind drug/alcohol use tells me you have issues in your life that need addressing.

You gave up your own life when you began to live for cannabis,you've been dead since.

Happy Halloween Shavluk.

Not everybody wants to abstain from having a few drinks, or even a joint for that matter. Society is changing, we aren't all from the 50's and 60's. Let people live their lives, just because somone has a few beers during the weekend or has a couple of joints certainly doesn't make them useless, stupid or lazy.

Smoking a joint can really cost you your life? I think thats hilarious. Reminds me of that movie reefer madness, and the shitty propaganda put out claiming that people who are stoned go around sexually assaulting women.

I don't see how advocating the use of alcohol or cannabis highlights issues that somebody has. Who hasn't needed a stiff drink after a tough day? We have one life to live, and I think it is completely absurd that an outdated set of beliefs dictates how people spend their own time, in their private homes. To put it plainly, restrictions don't work and they won't EVER work. Even the alcohol policy in the states has led to teen binge drinking. One report on CNN even claimed that 1 in 5 units of alcohol sold, are used by a minor. The state isn't here to be your mom. You can make your own decisions about what you put in your body, and how you spend your free time. The government should fulfil it's sole purpose of implementing educational programs and warnings about using such substances.

shavluk · October 29, 2007

Not everybody wants to abstain from having a few drinks, or even a joint for that matter. Society is changing, we aren't all from the 50's and 60's. Let people live their lives, just because somone has a few beers during the weekend or has a couple of joints certainly doesn't make them useless, stupid or lazy.
Smoking a joint can really cost you your life? I think thats hilarious. Reminds me of that movie reefer madness, and the shitty propaganda put out claiming that people who are stoned go around sexually assaulting women.

I don't see how advocating the use of alcohol or cannabis highlights issues that somebody has. Who hasn't needed a stiff drink after a tough day? We have one life to live, and I think it is completely absurd that an outdated set of beliefs dictates how people spend their own time, in their private homes. To put it plainly, restrictions don't work and they won't EVER work. Even the alcohol policy in the states has led to teen binge drinking. One report on CNN even claimed that 1 in 5 units of alcohol sold, are used by a minor. The state isn't here to be your mom. You can make your own decisions about what you put in your body, and how you spend your free time. The government should fulfil it's sole purpose of implementing educational programs and warnings about using such substances.

Well said timmtc.

Although the point from CES above ,,

CES is it?

canuckestan ,, Ces

Ces for short OK ,,,Ces?

I am down stairs here swimming in the indoor pool using their slow internet ,,

and anything to shorten all this typing ,,OK Ces?

Yep Ces the pool and me ,,great night.

He says he doesn't understand so then he of course then thinks that someone like him who hasn't figured out things , someone like himself for example ,might yes , have some relevant opinion as to things I for one do know all about ,,hahhhaaha go figure.

Life will be full of disappointments for some.

Me its about quality not quantity.

Although I have met so very many still walking not really knowing they did indeed died years ago.

Blocking their own success psychologically by cursing others gifts.

Thanks for your comments,,, you though may in fact be in the wrong room ,,you may be looking for the burn the witch tent that is just up the road past kick the cripple.

As I re-live a swat team smashing into my living room window with my 8 year old daughter watching cartoons and re- visit my jailing in fact as an innocent man ,,hmmm,,,, I will ,, I guess have to admit I am different ,,effected,,,changed,,, what sane person would not be?

I will make the best of my unasked for and unwanted penal education no matter how much some one like you may not understand , thanks

I am busy explaining to the ones who do want to understand.

Edited October 29, 2007 by shavluk

GostHacked · October 29, 2007

shavluk

Take time to step back from the bong, and reflect a little.

Timmtc

Smoking a joint can really cost you your life? I think thats hilarious. Reminds me of that movie reefer madness, and the shitty propaganda put out claiming that people who are stoned go around sexually assaulting women.

I am in agreeance (is that a word?) with you. Moderation and self control. That is all it takes. All the rules/laws/health (pro con) in the world will not help. Only self moderation and self control.

shavluk · October 30, 2007

Step back I did ,,, I am back.

On a lighter note and to scare some of our crustier types hahha,, heres a little diddy jumping up the charts!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/42644/

Amazing Atheist · October 30, 2007

My opinion on pot is this, legalize and regulate.

Aside from the obvious lies told about Cannabis which anyone who uses or used it will tell you is bullshit the pros by far outweigh the cons here in regards to legalization.

Cannabis is the single biggest cash crop for street gangs and major organized crime syndicates like the Hells Angels etc. Very much like Alcohol was in the 20's.

The real question most people need to ask themselves here is: Who would you prefer control this market? Well there are 2 options

1: Criminals

Since pot is technically illegal most of the trade is done in the black market. This provides gangs and other violent groups of people to control this market which has yes resulted in murders and for some an unsafe supply.

2: Government/legit private enterprise

Pot if it were to become legal could be taxed and this tax money could be put into proper drug education which kids clearly aren't getting now and proper drug rehabilitation programs and what have you.

Once the veil has been lifted on pot usage would also certainly drop. Most people try it the first time out of curiosity or at least I did. There is a mystique that surrounds this plant and this is what attracts people to use it which is why usage is the highest it's ever been.... This and the fact most people figure out in their teen years that yes lots of people do it and they didn't get all messed up like educators and police told us.

Pot in most places has become available to younger kids too. It is more available to kids then alcohol as a result of placing the industry into the hands of people who could care less.

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While some debate the health benefits of Cannabis I can tell you folks here that since I started using medicinally it has stopped my seizures as well as ease the nerve pain I now suffer as the result of major spinal injury. It has allowed me personally to live a more full and normal life which previously was an impossibility.

Fact here is Cannabis has NEVER killed anyone as a result of USING the plant for both recreational and medicinal practices. This tells me that it is not as bad as many people have made it out to be.

shavluk · October 30, 2007

Very Good first post !!! WELCOME

Here is some of the discussion even at the GREEN PARTY.

http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2990

Their number 1 viewed item in only a week

http://www.greenparty.ca/en/blog/most_read

old_bold&cold · October 30, 2007

My opinion on pot is this, legalize and regulate.
Aside from the obvious lies told about Cannabis which anyone who uses or used it will tell you is bullshit the pros by far outweigh the cons here in regards to legalization.

Cannabis is the single biggest cash crop for street gangs and major organized crime syndicates like the Hells Angels etc. Very much like Alcohol was in the 20's.

The real question most people need to ask themselves here is: Who would you prefer control this market? Well there are 2 options

1: Criminals

Since pot is technically illegal most of the trade is done in the black market. This provides gangs and other violent groups of people to control this market which has yes resulted in murders and for some an unsafe supply.

2: Government/legit private enterprise

Pot if it were to become legal could be taxed and this tax money could be put into proper drug education which kids clearly aren't getting now and proper drug rehabilitation programs and what have you.

Once the veil has been lifted on pot usage would also certainly drop. Most people try it the first time out of curiosity or at least I did. There is a mystique that surrounds this plant and this is what attracts people to use it which is why usage is the highest it's ever been.... This and the fact most people figure out in their teen years that yes lots of people do it and they didn't get all messed up like educators and police told us.

Pot in most places has become available to younger kids too. It is more available to kids then alcohol as a result of placing the industry into the hands of people who could care less.

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While some debate the health benefits of Cannabis I can tell you folks here that since I started using medicinally it has stopped my seizures as well as ease the nerve pain I now suffer as the result of major spinal injury. It has allowed me personally to live a more full and normal life which previously was an impossibility.

Fact here is Cannabis has NEVER killed anyone as a result of USING the plant for both recreational and medicinal practices. This tells me that it is not as bad as many people have made it out to be.

If pot were legalized the government would want to regulate it and by that I mean the strengths and its THC content. That would mean that there would have to be a large regulated body to do this. But just as tobacco has taxes and many find ways around these taxes, so would the pot growers who already are growing the pot. They will then be breaking tax laws etc.. and we would be in the same position, except now it would be legal for th users.

Since the grow-ops have already shown they are willing to break the law, what garantee would there be that they will just not do the same as they are doing now and not pay taxes. You do know that Pot after taxes will be probably $50.00 per gram, right?

So do we make it so that those caught still illegally growing pot, are sentenced to 20 years in jail? Kind of does not make sense. It would be better to just leave it alone. If anybody thinks that the costs of regulating and taxing pot will not raise the cost per gram to be at least 5 times what it is now, then you have not looked inot this very hard.

If we take the steps to legalize it and tax it along with regulating its content, most people will not like the costs and if we are going to be serious about doing this, we then have to make illegal growing outside the regulation and taxing, need punishments that will deter those from taking that risk. So these are just some of the reasons why pot will never be legalized, regulated and taxed.

Amazing Atheist · October 30, 2007

If pot were legalized the government would want to regulate it and by that I mean the strengths and its THC content. That would mean that there would have to be a large regulated body to do this. But just as tobacco has taxes and many find ways around these taxes, so would the pot growers who already are growing the pot. They will then be breaking tax laws etc.. and we would be in the same position, except now it would be legal for th users.

Well growing pot for personal use would have to be legal. You can after all grow your own tobacco or make your own booze. Like tobacco or alcohol in regards to solicitation a special license would have to be issued.

You are not breaking the law until you are making money, fact is legal weed would still be cheaper or even the same price as the stuff most buy now. With this in mind people will always grow for personal use such as me. However I know if most people could say walk into a store and buy pot like they could booze or tobacco they would. This would put most of the large grow operations out of business and move the industry out of the black market and create a new 7 billion+ dollar a year industry.

Since the grow-ops have already shown they are willing to break the law, what garantee would there be that they will just not do the same as they are doing now and not pay taxes. You do know that Pot after taxes will be probably $50.00 per gram, right?

Pot after taxes will not be $50 a gram.... It will likely work out to be $10 or maybe even less a gram to ensure that people stopped buying from the street. I could see it being like $50 a gram for like super pure bubble hash or something but not for bud.

Buy charging a price that can be competitive with street prices or even beat them it would take less then 6 months to put most street dealers out of business as well as the suppliers. It's simple economics my friend.

So do we make it so that those caught still illegally growing pot, are sentenced to 20 years in jail? Kind of does not make sense. It would be better to just leave it alone. If anybody thinks that the costs of regulating and taxing pot will not raise the cost per gram to be at least 5 times what it is now, then you have not looked inot this very hard.

First of all do not make it illegal to grow your own weed just like it is not illegal to make your own wine or grow your own tobacco. Growing for the sole purpose of selling without a permit should carry the same punishment as growing tobacco for sale without a permit has.

Realistically pot is not that costly to grow after your major purchases have been made.

Even at a dollar a gram you are making more money then what you need to spend on electricity and water. So at $10 a gram taxes included in this we will say at $3 per gram and the other 7 could go to the business as net profits etc.

As for not looking into this that hard believe me I have, many consider me to be an expert in Weedology 101. :lol: Seriously though I have done extensive research into this issue which is very important to me.

If we take the steps to legalize it and tax it along with regulating its content, most people will not like the costs and if we are going to be serious about doing this, we then have to make illegal growing outside the regulation and taxing, need punishments that will deter those from taking that risk. So these are just some of the reasons why pot will never be legalized, regulated and taxed.

First of all you cannot simply regulate the ammount of THC in pot today as 98% of the strains out there have about the same content. When I say regulation I do not mean the chemical properties of the plant. Pot is no longer judged on THC content it is judged on it's taste... Of course you would know this if you were a user like me.

Regulation means the laws surrounding the plant such as personal growing, amounts, driving and age restrictions etc. This plant has several active chemicals and there are a near endless varieties from the 2 main branches of the Cannabis family Indica and Sativa. This makes it impossible to regulate content in regards to the natural production of the plant. The only chemicals in regards to the plant that should be regulated are those that are added like fertilizers, pesticides and so on.

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Not one person here can provide a valid reason why pot should not be legal. Yet I could make a thousand arguments why alcohol and tobacco should be like the explosive numbers of deaths a year they cause and negative health effects etc.

shavluk · October 30, 2007

I have wasted my time with that obvious policeman so I will just watch you do the same.

Cannabis will be $10 AN OUNCE that's why he is hyperventilating.

Silly Silly Silly

Alcohol today under prohibition would be $300.00 per 26 as per the CBC and an Indian reservation last weekend(i used to say $200)

Any way old&cold is really not interested in the truth ,spouts off with fantasies and is semi delusional ,he is just trying to put dis information into this thread for future readers and probably because no one talks to him here anymore he figures a new one he can BS ,,again if you are a masochist fill your boots

Fastest Growing Political Party In Canada The GREEN PARTY !!!

Taa Taa

I will be back with some more excellent links to make all the old crusties have nightmares.

Amazing Atheist · October 30, 2007

I have wasted my time with that obvious policeman so I will just watch you do the same.
Cannabis will be $10 AN OUNCE that's why he is hyperventilating.

Silly Silly Silly

Alcohol today under prohibition would be $300.00 per 26 as per the CBC and an Indian reservation last weekend(i used to say $200)

Any way old&cold is really not interested in the truth ,spouts off with fantasies and is semi delusional ,he is just trying to put dis information into this thread for future readers and probably because no one talks to him here anymore he figures a new one he can BS ,,again if you are a masochist fill your boots

Fastest Growing Political Party In Canada The GREEN PARTY !!!

Taa Taa

I will be back with some more excellent links to make all the old crusties have nightmares.

Insults and name calling will get you no where with people which is why I won't resort to calling people 'old crusties' for example.

While I do appreciate the sentiment it really does more harm to help our cause then good.

I could say that anyone who doesn't support our cause is an asshole or a moron, but I don't because smart people frown on insults. I prefer to keep conversation alive with healthy debate and rationality as opposed to name calling and insulting people in so many words as you do.

So please if this is how you wish to bring people over to the anti-prohibition side of things then don't because it will make people think we are a bunch of pricks when most of us are just as normal as anyone else.

As for the green party they will not pick up more then 3 or 4% max in the next election. If you really want to support the cause you would vote for the NDP as they also support legalization and pick up more votes then the green party. The liberals now also agree that pot needs to be legal.... IMO a vote for the green party is basically throwing a valuable vote away especially since the vast majority of the pot culture support Layton and the NDP and some the liberals.... Vote for who you want though I won't be voting on the issue of pot legalization I will be voting for whoever has the best environmental policy as this by far is the MOST important issue for us in the coming years.

shavluk · October 30, 2007

Insults and name calling will get you no where with people which is why I won't resort to calling people 'old crusties' for example.
While I do appreciate the sentiment it really does more harm to help our cause then good.

I could say that anyone who doesn't support our cause is an asshole or a moron, but I don't because smart people frown on insults. I prefer to keep conversation alive with healthy debate and rationality as opposed to name calling and insulting people in so many words as you do.

So please if this is how you wish to bring people over to the anti-prohibition side of things then don't because it will make people think we are a bunch of pricks when most of us are just as normal as anyone else.

As for the green party they will not pick up more then 3 or 4% max in the next election. If you really want to support the cause you would vote for the NDP as they also support legalization and pick up more votes then the green party. The liberals now also agree that pot needs to be legal.... IMO a vote for the green party is basically throwing a valuable vote away especially since the vast majority of the pot culture support Layton and the NDP and some the liberals.... Vote for who you want though I won't be voting on the issue of pot legalization I will be voting for whoever has the best environmental policy as this by far is the MOST important issue for us in the coming years.

Oh I get it a CC Member hahhahhahhahhaha

No!!!

YOU ARE WRONG !

***** If you really want to support the cause you would vote for the NDP as they also support legalization******

PROVE IT !!!! SHOW ME OR LOSE ALL FURTHER CREDIBILITY !!!

Tap ,tap ,tap

After you have taken enough shots from the ones I refer to here you may just change your mind about my style but as I see you are delusional on your political view and not up to speed I will just assume you are misinformed on other things.

I will await your proof of your ndp or now done party legalization policy before I bother addressing anything else you say as when I got to that lie it drained any interest in debating with you .

Please provide your proof !!! The proof I know DOES NOT EXIST !!

Then I will bother further.

Amazing Atheist · October 31, 2007

Oh I get it a CC Member hahhahhahhahhaha
No!!!

YOU ARE WRONG !

Actually I'm a CC member although I do read the mag and I personally know Emery...

***** If you really want to support the cause you would vote for the NDP as they also support legalization******
PROVE IT !!!! SHOW ME OR LOSE ALL FURTHER CREDIBILITY !!!

Tap ,tap ,tap

The proof is in the numbers, fact is the green party will not win in a federal election and the NDP who also support legalization will always get more numbers last election they got %17.48 of the vote which is 29 seats... what did the green party get like 4.5% of the vote...

The proof is in the numbers but hey like I said you can vote for who you want I won't tell you otherwise.

BTW I have to prove nothing to you and your hardly in any position to be making demands or telling people they aren't credible just because you disagree with what they say.

After you have taken enough shots from the ones I refer to here you may just change your mind about my style but as I see you are delusional on your political view and not up to speed I will just assume you are misinformed on other things.

I ignore the shots people make towards me, I don't engage in childish name calling and insulting to get my point across I never have... So because I disagree with you I am misinformed and delusional... I guess you never once considered the fact you may possibly be wrong here in regards to the green party.

I will await your proof of your ndp or now done party legalization policy before I bother addressing anything else you say as when I got to that lie it drained any interest in debating with you .

I never said I would give proof although here is a link to the eNDProhibition site.

Jack Layton along with most of the NDP members do support legalization. They have said so in national debates and interviews.

Just before the last federal election Jack Layton sat down with Emery at his home and said he support the legalization of marijuana.

Please provide your proof !!! The proof I know DOES NOT EXIST !!
Then I will bother further.

The movement would be much better off without people like you....

Ok heres your proof that the NDP do support legalization...

The federal NDP believes the federal government must move beyond decriminalization and examine and introduce a non-punitive, rule-based, approach to adult marijuana use with an emphasis on prevention, education and health promotion. Marijuana policy needs to eliminate the criminalization of users and focus on reducing harms and preventing crime.

Although the federal NDP pushed for amendments to allow the personal cultivation of up to 5 plants, the Liberal dominated committee choose to set the maximum at 3, and it still supported imposing a fine. Instead of the risk of jail time, those found with up to 3 marijuana plants would face a $500 fine.

Canada should move marijuana out of the criminal legal framework and eliminate punitive measures for responsible adult marijuana use. We must move forward to a discussion on the best system of rules and public health education. For instance there should be rules about age, strong rules about impaired driving and rules to tackle disruptive illegal industrial grow-ups.

Official NDP website

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To be honest it does not matter who you vote for because I am personally organizing an event that will truly end prohibition and win the war here in Canada.... Just wait until next years 420 when I make national headlines.

I am going to take it to the next level and either people will be in or out because once we start we must not stop until we get what we want and what is right.

I am currently talking hunger strike and to avoid being arrested it will be without smoking weed and only having water to survive on. Either the government let's a whole bunch of us die which they certainly won't or they legalize... There is no middle ground it's either do or die.

This war on people has gone on far to long it's time to get serious and show the politicians that we mean business.

White Doors · October 31, 2007

The munchies will put an end to that hunger strike pretty quick.

The government will send down a CSIS spy with a box of twinkies and a big bag of cheezies.

BAM! Pot head hunger strike is over.

GostHacked · October 31, 2007

The munchies will put an end to that hunger strike pretty quick.
The government will send down a CSIS spy with a box of twinkies and a big bag of cheezies.

BAM! Pot head hunger strike is over.

- 10 for reading comprehension.

Mr. Athiest said.

I am currently talking hunger strike and to avoid being arrested it will be without smoking weed and only having water to survive on.

He won't be smoking. Long time smokers in general, lose their regular appetite. On my days off. I will wake up and smoke... I do get the munchies, and make a decent breakfast. If I don't smoke in the morning, I could really go all day without eating and without really thinking of it.

Also, when I do not smoke, most of those 'munchies' are really unatractive to me. Most of my pot head friends are the same way.

Mr. Amazing Atheist, stay awhile.

White Doors · October 31, 2007

HE may not be smoking, but really - a hunger strike by pot activists and you don't think the vast majority will be smoking pot?

-10 for logical fallacy

Edited October 31, 2007 by White Doors

GostHacked · October 31, 2007

HE may not be smoking, but really - a hunger strike by pot activists and you don't think the vast majority will be smoking pot?
-10 for logical fallacy

You know what takes cares of munchies?? A couple sticks of gum!

Amazing Atheist · October 31, 2007

The munchies will put an end to that hunger strike pretty quick.
The government will send down a CSIS spy with a box of twinkies and a big bag of cheezies.

BAM! Pot head hunger strike is over.

Except that I won't be getting high during this time period and there is a good reason.

The reason being of course because I don't want the police to have something to nail me with and end the protest... Do you think that all people who use pot just simply cannot resist food or something?

CSIS gimme a break they couldn't catch a cold.... Besides they arent interested in pot protesters that's more of a police thing...

HE may not be smoking, but really - a hunger strike by pot activists and you don't think the vast majority will be smoking pot?
-10 for logical fallacy

Most people who use pot often go w/o pot for sometimes weeks at a time. I do once my body starts building up a resistance, yeah some of us do like to take a break from using...

I feel a hunger strike is almost necessary to get what we want. To quote Spock from the Wrath of Khan movie "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few". This protest will show who is willing to really fight for their cause and who is not.

Of course it would begin right after 420 celebrations which will be the last time we would smoke or whatever until the protest is over.

He won't be smoking. Long time smokers in general, lose their regular appetite. On my days off. I will wake up and smoke... I do get the munchies, and make a decent breakfast. If I don't smoke in the morning, I could really go all day without eating and without really thinking of it.
Also, when I do not smoke, most of those 'munchies' are really unatractive to me. Most of my pot head friends are the same way.

Mr. Amazing Atheist, stay awhile.

I'm not going anywhere....

I can handle not smoking I do it all the time. Most of us can handle not smoking as Cannabis is not physically addictive.

Even high I know I can resist munchies no problem.

You know what takes cares of munchies?? A couple sticks of gum!

No that only rids you of the pasties... There won't even be gum at if such a protest happens which I hope it does.

White Doors · October 31, 2007

Well I used to smoke alot of pot. alot. Big deal. It's not a big deal. To go on a hunger strike because it's not legalized? Come on. If you smoke pot in Canada and do it your own home and don't drive high, it already is virtually legal. What's the big deal? Smoke all you want, why do you insist on publicizing it?

Its not a particularly harmful drug, less harmful than alcohol I'd say, but it's not something that any government should make a priority and is really a moot issue. The freedom you have with it now is likely the best you will get. Get over it. Being a pot smoker is not rebellious anymore and a hunger strike to demand it being legalized comes off as being a tad bit pathetic in my opinion. Smoke your smoke and have fun. Why do you insist on politicizing it? I think the POT GOD would be angry with you for doing so.

In the end, if you are all angry about it not being legal then really, aren't you really acting like, all stressed out and being a huge downer dude? Kind of anti-pot-culture of you, isn't it?

CSIS gimme a break they couldn't catch a cold.... Besides they arent interested in pot protesters that's more of a police thing...

I was being facetious

Also, your quote from the Wrath of Khan? That doesn't help your cause. More people don't smoke, than do.

And another thing, a pot activist quoting Spock from the Wrath of Khan is so 70's.

Edited October 31, 2007 by White Doors

Amazing Atheist · October 31, 2007

Well I used to smoke alot of pot. alot. Big deal. It's not a big deal. To go on a hunger strike because it's not legalized? Come on. If you smoke pot in Canada and do it your own home and don't drive high, it already is virtually legal. What's the big deal? Smoke all you want, why do you insist on publicizing it?

Mostly I want to do this because despite you inaccurate depiction people still go to jail. Other reasons also include reducing crime, jail population, the ability for people to know what they are buying and the list goes on.

Its not a particularly harmful drug, less harmful than alcohol I'd say, but it's not something that any government should make a priority and is really a moot issue. The freedom you have with it now is likely the best you will get. Get over it. Being a pot smoker is not rebellious anymore and a hunger strike to demand it being legalized comes off as being a tad bit pathetic in my opinion. Smoke your smoke and have fun. Why do you insist on politicizing it? I think the POT GOD would be angry with you for doing so.

It's not harmful at all like alcohol or cigarettes...

I would hardly call this a moot issue though considering almost 20% of the nation use pot on a regular basis which has also been on a steady rise. Fact is you have to fight against the powers that be to get what you want. You have to be able to put pressure on the government and a hunger strike would put immense pressure on them.

What you call pathetic I call strategic... I never smoked to be rebellious I do cause I like it.

When I can go to a coffee shop and legally take massive bong hits in front of 100 police officers then I will be happy.

I am not politicizing the issue it has been done already I am just playing the game that people like Emery set up already. I look at it as a game of chess and I have the perfect opportunity to get the win with one move.

In the end, if you are all angry about it not being legal then really, aren't you really acting like, all stressed out and being a huge downer dude? Kind of anti-pot-culture of you, isn't it?

Being anti pot is doing nothing and supporting the current laws which put people like me in jail. Over half the nation wants pot legal and thus I gain sympathy from people, others will join me to protest via hunger strike and others will support by showing the government how outraged they are.

Fact is the government can't touch us unless we do something illegal, they also won't let a bunch of people simply die of starvation either. They are really only left with one solution that does not make them look bad.

Everyone who takes part in a hunger strike will be viewed as counter culture heroes as they will play a key role in showing the nation that a few of us can make a difference.