ALL CANNABIS CANADIANS VOTE GREEN

[Drea]

I sense just a teensy weensy amount of anger coming from this corner of the forum. Hey, you admitted to drinking booze while carrying a child, for which you were soundly criticized. Is that why you're so angry now concerning this subject?

I think you have me confused with someone else. I did not drink whilst pregnant. I do smoke marijuana though.

I am angry because I get treated like a criminal for doing something much much less harmful (to me or those around me) than injesting alcohol.

I have no use for drinkers, they are a volatile dangerous lot.

Edited September 27, 2007 by Drea

[jefferiah]

You of course can stand up and help with the many other problems out there as I am sure you are ,right?

Well, maybe I do and maybe I don't, but the fact remains, Sir, that I am not the one expecting people to vote for me.

[shavluk]

before we get this stupid in Canada please vote GREEN

10 Million Americans Busted for Pot: Enough is Enough

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/63988/

[shavluk]

Saturday, October 6, 2007

What's Harper smoking?

Dan Gardner

The Ottawa Citizen

Stephen Harper's announcement Thursday of a new national drug strategy served at least one valuable purpose: It conclusively demonstrated that the prime minister knows nothing about drugs or drug policy.

link ,

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...a7-190df30c87fe

"""Invariably, Mr. Harper said, drug addiction must lead to tragedy. "If you remain a drug addict, I don't care how much harm you reduce, you're going to have a short and miserable life."

When William Wilberforce -- the man who defeated the slave trade in the British Parliament -- died in 1833, he was 74 years old. He was also an opium addict.

William Stewart Halsted -- a pioneering surgeon and medical researcher -- was just short of 70 when he died in 1922, despite being a lifelong addict. Halsted started with cocaine. Later, he switched to morphine -- a cousin of heroin -- and for the rest of his long and productive life he took daily injections of the drug.

Of course Halsted, Wilberforce and many others like them lived in a time when all drugs were legal and so they could easily obtain cheap and clean supplies. Not so today. As a result, addiction often leads to bankruptcy, squalor, disease and, as Mr. Harper said, "a short and miserable life."

Edited October 6, 2007 by shavluk

[trex]

Invariably, Mr. Harper said, drug addiction must lead to tragedy. "If you remain a drug addict, I don't care how much harm you reduce, you're going to have a short and miserable life."

When William Wilberforce -- the man who defeated the slave trade in the British Parliament -- died in 1833, he was 74 years old. He was also an opium addict.

William Stewart Halsted -- a pioneering surgeon and medical researcher -- was just short of 70 when he died in 1922, despite being a lifelong addict. Halsted started with cocaine. Later, he switched to morphine -- a cousin of heroin -- and for the rest of his long and productive life he took daily injections of the drug.

Of course Halsted, Wilberforce and many others like them lived in a time when all drugs were legal and so they could easily obtain cheap and clean supplies. Not so today. As a result, addiction often leads to bankruptcy, squalor, disease and, as Mr. Harper said, "a short and miserable life."

So on this last point, Mr. Harper isn't entirely wrong, although I'm quite sure the connection between his policies and those short and miserable lives is lost on him. Righteous ignorance does fog the mind.

ok, its enough to even make me start jumping up and down, at the sheer injustice of it!!

[shavluk]

Two letters here from a LEAP member with some very good research to dispell the crap we are spoon fed.

Again all backed up and this man should know.

And yes Tbud it is amazing that harper could be so stupid to provide this gift.

The only thing that may explain it is postering with a hidden big tax cut being added to the throne speech.

number 1

Wednesday, September 12, 2007

The curse of the grow op is upon us. . .

Jerry Paradis

North Shore News

http://www.canada.com/northshorenews/news/...70-cef7d44a951c

number 2 ,,also very good

Wednesday, October 3, 2007

Assessing the 'threat' posed by grow-ops

Jerry Paradis

Special to North Shore News

ON Sept. 12 in this space, I explored the reality and the hype about marijuana grow-ops, pointing out that evidence about the many harms they cause often has nothing to do with threatening the community.

In particular, that they are proliferating at an exponential rate and that they may cause damage to the premises that house them has no bearing on whether they are the scourge they're made out to be.

It's time to take a closer look at the four items that might well be a threat: firearms, fires, home invasions ("grow rips") and organized crime.

http://www.canada.com/northshorenews/news/...e4-137847cefd4d

Sorry about not posting correctly

I hope this solves this.

Edited October 6, 2007 by shavluk

[shavluk]

This should be added and this thread kept up to date.

Sorry for the duplication.

I will keep this one current.

Cheers

VOTE GREEN FOR YOUR KIDS !!

IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM WHY NOT BE PART OF THE SOLUTION ????

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Media Release

For Immediate Release

October 11, 2007

Harper's "war on drugs" regressive and irresponsible: Green Party

OTTAWA – The Green Party today denounced Prime Minister Stephen Harper's proposed drug strategy as an ideologically-driven step in the wrong direction and ignorant of evidence-based research. Last week, Mr. Harper announced his intent to spend $64 million in a war on drugs, focusing on punishment and enforcement – not prevention.

"Mr. Harper is far too eager to sign Canada on to a Bush-style war on drugs that has spent billions and achieved nothing," said Green Party leader Elizabeth May. "An overwhelming body of evidence supports the notion that an effective drug strategy would focus on prevention, treatment facilities and harm reduction programs.

"Mr. Harper preaches prevention, yet spends many times the funds allocated to prevention on enforcing antiquated drug laws and punishing drug users. This approach is akin to simply burning tax dollars and is severely damaging to society. Instead of listening to the facts, Mr. Harper is trying to appear tough on crime in a desperate attempt to grab votes."

Jared Giesbrecht, Justice Critic for the Green Party, added that the 2002 Senate Special Committee on Drugs and examples from European countries have led the Green Party to the conclusion that it is time to legalize the adult use of marijuana, developing a taxation rate for the substance similar to that of tobacco.

"Mr. Harper's plan to impose tougher penalties on users of marijuana and other drugs is a misguided approach. Substance abuse is a medical issue, not a criminal issue. Simply spending more tax dollars on drug law enforcement is not the answer. Canadians want to see a comprehensive anti-drug strategy that gets to the root of the problem, not Harper's patch-work agenda that seeks the quick fix."

Mr. Giesbrecht added that the Green Party would fund and expand safe injection sites, like the Insite clinic in Vancouver, that are proven to save lives.

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Contact:

Camille Labchuk

Press Secretary

613-882-4761

[email protected]

[shavluk]

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canada/2007...579726-sun.html

Green Party more than just tree-huggers

Tue, October 16, 2007

Green Party more than just tree-huggers

By ALAN FINDLAY, NATIONAL BUREAU

OTTAWA -- Green is for marijuana, a carbon tax, income splitting for couples and dying with dignity, according to federal party leader Elizabeth May ,,,,,read the rest in the link

Calling all income splitting supporters as well !!

Edited October 16, 2007 by shavluk

[M.Dancer]

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canada/2007...579726-sun.html

Green Party more than just tree-huggers

Along with a $50/tonne carbon tax to limit pollution, the Greens are touting legalized and taxed pot, universal child-care and a tax system that encourages more family time at home and with friends by splitting taxable income. "Polluter pay" and sin taxes will mean lower income taxes for everyone but those earning more than $150,000 a year.

- Paid vacation entitlements should be raised to three weeks a year from two.

- A $10-an-hour minimum wage should be federal law.

- Railroads should be enhanced at the expense of cancelled highway and bridge expansions;

- A guaranteed right for people to draw up a "living will" enabling them the right to "die with dignity" by limiting or refusing medical intervention.

Right...The Green Party isn't left wing.........

[Canadian Blue]

I'm not sure, I don't think "cannabis Canadians" would be all that motivated to go out and vote. I think during election day they'd be mystified with the philosophy behind "Baked Lays".

[shavluk]

I'm not sure, I don't think "cannabis Canadians" would be all that motivated to go out and vote. I think during election day they'd be mystified with the philosophy behind "Baked Lays".

Obviously we shall see wont we

in the mean time could you keep what are to me racist remarks out of my thread if you also have absolutely nothing to contribute except your jealousy?

[kengs333]

Obviously we shall see wont we

in the mean time could you keep what are to me racist remarks out of my thread if you also have absolutely nothing to contribute except your jealousy?

So people who smoke marijuana now constitute a "race" in your opinion????

You may want to read through this thread:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=9978

[old_bold&cold]

I noticed that Elizabeth May did not ever mention anything about legalizing pot in her platform today. Now why is thta not surprising. I think maybe we should make sure some reporters call her out of this amd make it a well known fact as to just where they stand on it. That would delete and green votes coming in from the protest votes.

[shavluk]

So people who smoke marijuana now constitute a "race" in your opinion????

You may want to read through this thread:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=9978

No I don't think I need to but maybe you should and then you will see I am already there (top of page 6) hahahahha

Do you actually read what I write or just scan it?

Maybe re-read my comments.

and you will see some words maybe missed the first time.

Just back from the court house with the da kine case if you want to talk about racist like practises, try me ,,,or about wasting all this money for people there who are seemingly privileged and only seem to work 5 hours a day.

Holding our freedoms to ransom.

[shavluk]

I noticed that Elizabeth May did not ever mention anything about legalizing pot in her platform today. Now why is thta not surprising. I think maybe we should make sure some reporters call her out of this amd make it a well known fact as to just where they stand on it. That would delete and green votes coming in from the protest votes.

Thats a great idea maybe you can handle that ?

I would expect you to at least use spell check for that though OK?

[old_bold&cold]

You telling me to use spell check that is funny. Your posts that are mis-spelled and unreadable for the topic you babel on about, make my spelling a small thing. Plus if you see my mistakes you will see it is not because I can not spell, but rather I type things sometimes too quickly and yes typo's are then there.

Even Elezabeth May would not want to have you or your posts here come to lite of being put foward as part of their platform. Only you can not see this and wonder why. That is why you will never win a seat for them. Oh, I forgot, you are not trying to win but rather are just educating the people

Edited October 16, 2007 by old_bold&cold

[shavluk]

I have said we are different than the other parties.

We are.

No one needs muzzle me for being too Green.

The shots on your spelling to some others would be considered me just saying hello in a nice way.

I see no harm coming to you because of what I am doing or how I am doing it and by standing up and saying what I am is still harmless to you unless you are really just a hard core prohibitionist at heart that simply refuses to consider the alternative. Your loss.

Its not like I haven't heard it all before from people who really haven't heard the correct story.

You don't realize that I once thought like you probably do and I received an unwanted or asked for education to which I am now indebted to.

This isn't about me ,, and if you met some of the ones that I have met ,,you would do it yourself.

[Canadian Blue]

in the mean time could you keep what are to me racist remarks out of my thread if you also have absolutely nothing to contribute except your jealousy?

My jealousy of what, people that smoke dope?

Edited October 17, 2007 by Canadian Blue

[Canuck E Stan]

Saturday, October 6, 2007

What's Harper smoking?

Dan Gardner

The Ottawa Citizen

Stephen Harper's announcement Thursday of a new national drug strategy served at least one valuable purpose: It conclusively demonstrated that the prime minister knows nothing about drugs or drug policy.

link ,

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...a7-190df30c87fe

"""Invariably, Mr. Harper said, drug addiction must lead to tragedy. "If you remain a drug addict, I don't care how much harm you reduce, you're going to have a short and miserable life."

When William Wilberforce -- the man who defeated the slave trade in the British Parliament -- died in 1833, he was 74 years old. He was also an opium addict.

William Stewart Halsted -- a pioneering surgeon and medical researcher -- was just short of 70 when he died in 1922, despite being a lifelong addict. Halsted started with cocaine. Later, he switched to morphine -- a cousin of heroin -- and for the rest of his long and productive life he took daily injections of the drug.

Of course Halsted, Wilberforce and many others like them lived in a time when all drugs were legal and so they could easily obtain cheap and clean supplies. Not so today. As a result, addiction often leads to bankruptcy, squalor, disease and, as Mr. Harper said, "a short and miserable life."

Canadian ferry crews warned against smoking pot

"Ferry crews whose performance is impaired by cannabis are a clear risk to the traveling public," TSB Chairwoman Wendy Tadros said in a statement.

"I'm convinced public safety trumps human rights," Hann told a radio call-in program, acknowledging that testing was a more controversial idea in Canada than in the United States where it is widespread in the transportation industry.

Harper doesn't smoke,nor does he need to.

And he's totally right in his statement, "Invariably, Mr. Harper said, drug addiction must lead to tragedy"

and as Hann said "Public Safety trumps human rights."

And about voting Green?..... with representative of the party like Slavluk,not likely.

Edited October 18, 2007 by Canuck E Stan

[shavluk]

Harper also said drug impaired drivers ,,I challenge anyone to show me a cannabis alone driving fatality,,,,,with out alcohol ,,or even legal drugs

what would you expect BC ferries to say after the sinking fiasco ,,,,

nothing to do with cannabis except for the speedy and safe removal of all but 2 passengers when the drinker forgot to turn the ship,,,,,,

to dispell some of the witch hunting ,,,,

BBC TV

have a gander if you dare,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLmHL7YznUI...ddriving%2Ehtml

[Michael Bluth]

Seems like somebody was a little high when making the first poll question.

Doesn't make too much sense to me.

[shavluk]

Seems like somebody was a little high when making the first poll question.

Doesn't make too much sense to me.

You are absolutely right Michael ,,,Thank you

I have been here long enough to figure out how to fix it.

I have.

I have screwed up posts in the past as well,,,,, I am still learning ,,,,,

So where do you sit with the drug war?

Do you feel we will improve our communities by creating the next wave of violence being brought now by harpers step the wrong way ?

Do you remember the girl shot as she waited in line for a boxing day sale ?

Do you know anyone who has tried cannabis?

Do you consider them criminals? or is the law creating criminals?

Do you know that president Bush didn't t renew the semi automatic weapons ban that was in place for 10 years?

innocent by standers will be shot now even by 50 caliber machine guns ,,,from sprawl mart

while medical cannabis providing gangsters fight over drug turf,,, then of course the police will need them ,,,,,and so on and so on and so on,,watch !

2500 more police ,,yet we are all time taxed and crime has been regressing for years,,yeshhhhh

I stand by my words here but then I have done the research.

[M.Dancer]

You are absolutely right Michael ,,,Thank you

I have been here long enough to figure out how to fix it.

I have.

Great but it's still incoherent and what ever results that it shows are meaningless as everyone who voted, did so laughing.

[M.Dancer]

Harper also said drug impaired drivers ,,I challenge anyone to show me a cannabis alone driving fatality

So being stoned behind a wheel is only bad if someone gets killed? Not to bad is there is only propert damage or minor injuries?

[M.Dancer]

Harper also said drug impaired drivers ,,I challenge anyone to show me a cannabis alone driving fatality

Cannabis almost doubles the risk of fatal car crashes, according to a new study, though smoking the drug is still far less risky than drink-driving, the researchers say.

Stoned drivers were almost twice as likely to be involved in a fatal car crashes than abstemious drivers, according to a study of 10,748 fatal car crashes in France between 2001 and 2003. More than half of the drivers in the study themselves died as a result of their accidents and all the subjects were tested for drug and alcohol use after crashing.

Even after accounting for factors such as the age of the drivers and the condition of the vehicle, the researchers conclude that cannabis caused a significant number of the fatalities, with 2.5% of the crashes directly attributed to cannabis use. Alcohol was the direct cause of about 29%.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=...line-news_rss20

Go Green Go.....