Theophagy

[IXthAmendment]

Personally, I can't get over how bizarre the notion of theophagy is.

[jefferiah]

Personally, I can't get over how bizarre the notion of theophagy is.

And what is it?

[Posit]

The Eucharist = symbolic cannibalism.....

[jefferiah]

Ah ok, well I dont agree with the Roman Catholic notion that the priest can transform the bread and wine into the actual body of Christ. I dont actually go to church so I had never heard that term for it. But I do consider myself Christian. I think the idea of eating God is symbolic in itself. How can I explain that?

It is not meant to be cannabilistic but a symbol of bestowing. I think anyway. God is giving of Himself. It is not something that is earned. We are given life. Everything that moves and breathes is dependant upon those things which gave of themselves so that they might be there. No one is truly independent. Without care an infant would not survive.

I dont know. Good question though.

[ScottSA]

Personally, I can't get over how bizarre the notion of theophagy is.

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

[Posit]

It is not meant to be cannabilistic......

First of all the Eucharist is a "Christian" rite and is practiced by all denominations, not exclusively Catholic.

Second Communion was not presented as a symbolic reference to God. Jesus told His disciples to eat bread and drink wine as a symbolic reference to His body and his blood. That is a form of symbolic cannibalism.

All the rest of your response is nonsense goblty gook.

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

I can't get over theists who contradict the doctrine of God.

Edited July 15, 2007 by Posit

[ScottSA]

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

I can't get over theists who contradict the doctrine of God.

*snort* And what might be the "doctrine of God" that I'm contradicting?

[Posit]

Isn't it interesting that you were so quick to self-identify with my comment......

Matthew 5: 21-22, 43-48

Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

1 Corinthians 12

Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

Um...for starters....

[ScottSA]

Isn't it interesting that you were so quick to self-identify with my comment......

Matthew 5: 21-22, 43-48

Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

1 Corinthians 12

Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

Um...for starters....

And how am I contradicting any of these? I don't recall killing anyone this week, so do you mind being a bit more specific?

[Leafless]

The Eucharist = symbolic cannibalism.....

I suggest you stay away from the fire water and stop hallucinating.

"Most Christians classify the Eucharist as a sacrament. Some Protestants view it as an ordinance in which the ceremony is seen not as a specific channel of divine grace but as an expression of faith and of obedience to Christ."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist#Nam...r_the_Eucharist

Also a lot of French Quebec profanity is attached to sacred swear words including the 'chalice' and the 'host'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_French_profanity

[betsy]

It is not meant to be cannabilistic......

First of all the Eucharist is a "Christian" rite and is practiced by all denominations, not exclusively Catholic.

Second Communion was not presented as a symbolic reference to God. Jesus told His disciples to eat bread and drink wine as a symbolic reference to His body and his blood. That is a form of symbolic cannibalism.

All the rest of your response is nonsense goblty gook.

Your statement is a form of symbolic intelligence.

Since you are not a believer, of course you wouldn't understand.

Somehow this "interpretation" reminds me of someone who once mocked: The Bible said, we are made into the image of God. Therefore I am God.

Edited July 15, 2007 by betsy

[jefferiah]

It is not meant to be cannabilistic......

First of all the Eucharist is a "Christian" rite and is practiced by all denominations, not exclusively Catholic.

Second Communion was not presented as a symbolic reference to God. Jesus told His disciples to eat bread and drink wine as a symbolic reference to His body and his blood. That is a form of symbolic cannibalism.

All the rest of your response is nonsense goblty gook.

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

I can't get over theists who contradict the doctrine of God.

I never said that the Eucharist was not practiced by other denominations, Posit. What I did say was that the Catholics believe that the bread and wine are transformed into the body of Christ by the priest, which is not very symbolic is it? Jesus did tell his disciples to eat bread and wine but I dont think he would have gone so far as to actually ask them to eat his actual crucified body, so the idea of "eating" God is a symbol in itself.

[sharkman]

Hey posit, would you mind using something besides old King James, it's kind of hard to read.

[jefferiah]

It is not meant to be cannabilistic......

First of all the Eucharist is a "Christian" rite and is practiced by all denominations, not exclusively Catholic.

Second Communion was not presented as a symbolic reference to God. Jesus told His disciples to eat bread and drink wine as a symbolic reference to His body and his blood. That is a form of symbolic cannibalism.

All the rest of your response is nonsense goblty gook.

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

I can't get over theists who contradict the doctrine of God.

I never said that the Eucharist was not practiced by other denominations, Posit. What I did say was that the Catholics believe that the bread and wine are transformed into the body of Christ by the priest, which is not very symbolic is it? Jesus did tell his disciples to eat bread and wine but I dont think he would have gone so far as to actually ask them to eat his actual crucified body, so the idea of "eating" God is a symbol in itself.

God nurtures us, Posit, is the sentiment, and free of charge, freely giving of himself.

When Jesus compares the kingdom of heaven to a farmer seperating weeds from the good at the end of the age.....or to fish in a net....do you analyze it so far as to think that God is planning to eat us?

[jefferiah]

It is not meant to be cannabilistic......

First of all the Eucharist is a "Christian" rite and is practiced by all denominations, not exclusively Catholic.

Second Communion was not presented as a symbolic reference to God. Jesus told His disciples to eat bread and drink wine as a symbolic reference to His body and his blood. That is a form of symbolic cannibalism.

All the rest of your response is nonsense goblty gook.

I can't get over the bizarre fixation evangelical atheists have with all aspects of religion.

I can't get over theists who contradict the doctrine of God.

I never said that the Eucharist was not practiced by other denominations, Posit. What I did say was that the Catholics believe that the bread and wine are transformed into the body of Christ by the priest, which is not very symbolic is it? Jesus did tell his disciples to eat bread and wine but I dont think he would have gone so far as to actually ask them to eat his actual crucified body, so the idea of "eating" God is a symbol in itself.

God nurtures us, Posit, is the sentiment, and free of charge, freely giving of himself.

When Jesus compares the kingdom of heaven to a farmer seperating weeds from the good at the end of the age.....or to fish in a net....do you analyze it so far as to think that God is planning to eat us?

Hmmm think of a tree that bears fruit. When the fruit has become ripe it is free for the taking. The deer comes along and can eat the apple. Food is something which sustains life. God sustains life.

[Mad_Michael]

As long as the laws of the land are followed, I don't care what religious doctrine or rituals any given religious people wish to engage in. They are none of my business.

[M.Dancer]

Ah ok, well I dont agree with the Roman Catholic notion that the priest can transform the bread and wine into the actual body of Christ.

My wife can transform baby pork ribs into a nirvanna like pleasure.....

[jefferiah]

Ah ok, well I dont agree with the Roman Catholic notion that the priest can transform the bread and wine into the actual body of Christ.

My wife can transform baby pork ribs into a nirvanna like pleasure.....

Well, I'll be over later then.