Canada's First Chinese Canadian Political Party

[mikedavid00]

I'm sure you'll start a new thread on how exclusive that political party is

Is Christianity a race, ethnicity, culture, or skin color? No. So you're comparing apples and oranges.

[M.Dancer]

I'm sure you'll start a new thread on how exclusive that political party is

Is Christianity a race, ethnicity, culture, or skin color? No. So you're comparing apples and oranges.

Christianity is definately a culture.

[jbg]

Allowing a group to form a political party based on Religion, race, culture or sex is more socialist stupid idiology, it should not be allowed period.

More "multicultural" than socialist. Either way, it helps further fragment and destroy civil society.

[gc1765]

Is Christianity a race, ethnicity, culture, or skin color? No. So you're comparing apples and oranges.

Great, so you have no problem with a "Muslim Party of Canada"?

[jbg]

Great, so you have no problem with a "Muslim Party of Canada"?

About as likely to be loyal to Canada as the Bloc Quebecois (link).

[mikedavid00]

Is Christianity a race, ethnicity, culture, or skin color? No. So you're comparing apples and oranges.

Great, so you have no problem with a "Muslim Party of Canada"?

I never said that. I don't feel that we should have religious theocracy ruling us. I'm just saying that there's a difference between the two.

There's also a difference between, for instance, an Islamic party and a Christian party becuase Islam in itself is a different 'type' of religion then say Judism or Christianity.

One thing probably most people here disagree with me on is the public funding of Christian schools. I believe Jews and Christians should be given special rights in some regards and everyone else can go home if they don't like it:

I know it's not fair: I'm not playing fair anymore and will refuse to continually loose our ways to the stoneage cultures which piece by piece, are changing our country to accomodate them.

I can't believe the brits saying that even after these attacks 'well you know, we don't want to treat muslims unfairly'. Come on. 'doctors' are now terrorizing.

We're willing to loose our own lives because my MUST have stoneage cultures coming here so they can buy their little house and car and persue their lives here.

So no. I'm not giving up the Christian schools and I'm not playing fiar anymore. The Jewish in Ontario already lost their right to settle family desputes out of court. This was becuase of Muslims basically crying and whining and claiming things 'aren't fair'. The muslims got their way. They got to make sure the Jewish people lost something that they once had. That's how myslef and many other Jewish on the talk radios saw the whole thing.

[ogagator]

for your interest

Edited August 15, 2014 by ogagator

[ScottSA]

for your interest, the NAPP says they're as inclusive as everybody:

http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/200...emphasizes.html

Right. So did the NSDAP when it suited their purpose. One doesn't start a party by and for Chinese, separate them out in the mission statement, and then backpedal and claim the party and the mission statement were just a typo and oops, we love everyone.

[KO2]

Here's my reasoned approach to shake off the stranglehold of Political parties of all stripe.

Hold onto your hats, its another drug-induced fatasy of a utopian nature, straight from left field.

TECHNOLOGY ASSISTED DIRECT DEMOCRACY

To circumvent the strangle hold Party Politics has on the Canadian people, I would implement a system of TADD.

It could be set up in each riding with a call in touch tone telephone access computer tabulated local system much like the lottery ticket system.

I'm not talking their pay-out methods, only their tabulation methods.

With an experimental trial based in a riding that would dare to elect such a TADD candidate, the electorate could be given an input on every issue.

A trial of real democracy?

That way if their number of votes reach a certain threshold level, the choice of the people would supercede the position of the elected member on any given issue/bill before parliament.

This system would be hard to corrupt with lobbyists, coorporate interests (other than those of informed employees and citizens who understand that every choice they make impacts them)

Through a little by-the-seat-of-the-pants educations, taste of real power, and seeing a cause and effect of their different choices, Canadians are likely to become intelligent masters of their own destiny.

We might not really be as dull as we appear to be reflected in our level of political sophistication.

Many Canadians still would be surprised at the insights tourist have about Canada from their own experiences.

There is more than the American social model to consider.

Are you tired of being ruled by the incompetent?

It surprises me the lack of understanding about training shown in dog parks.

To "train" our leaders to respond to our wishes, we must turf the poor performers for a session and try to work with another pretender to good leadership-who ever that may be.

There is nothing critical about which team of clowns are in the ring, the only thing that matters is that past poor performances will not be rewarded with more victory in the polls.

It always amazes me how fatalistic people are about "thats' the way it is"

The only thing a voting booth guarrantees you is the privacy of your choice. It is up to the individual to make it work for them, not against them.

Much more than appearance every so many years is required if we are ever to achieve democracy, safety and freedom. Even in Canada.

Like everything we see in nature, all that survives is naturally in constant change.

Only the truly bewildered can't see that evolution is the constant necessary for survival.

Theat means evolution in all of our institutions, as well.

ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY WILL MAKE US MORE ITALIAN, NOT SERVE TO MOVE US FORWARD

[ScottSA]

Here's my reasoned approach to shake off the stranglehold of Political parties of all stripe.

Hold onto your hats, its another drug-induced fatasy of a utopian nature, straight from left field.

TECHNOLOGY ASSISTED DIRECT DEMOCRACY

To circumvent the strangle hold Party Politics has on the Canadian people, I would implement a system of TADD.

It could be set up in each riding with a call in touch tone telephone access computer tabulated local system much like the lottery ticket system.

I'm not talking their pay-out methods, only their tabulation methods.

With an experimental trial based in a riding that would dare to elect such a TADD candidate, the electorate could be given an input on every issue.

A trial of real democracy?

That way if their number of votes reach a certain threshold level, the choice of the people would supercede the position of the elected member on any given issue/bill before parliament.

This system would be hard to corrupt with lobbyists, coorporate interests (other than those of informed employees and citizens who understand that every choice they make impacts them)

Through a little by-the-seat-of-the-pants educations, taste of real power, and seeing a cause and effect of their different choices, Canadians are likely to become intelligent masters of their own destiny.

We might not really be as dull as we appear to be reflected in our level of political sophistication.

Many Canadians still would be surprised at the insights tourist have about Canada from their own experiences.

There is more than the American social model to consider.

Are you tired of being ruled by the incompetent?

It surprises me the lack of understanding about training shown in dog parks.

To "train" our leaders to respond to our wishes, we must turf the poor performers for a session and try to work with another pretender to good leadership-who ever that may be.

There is nothing critical about which team of clowns are in the ring, the only thing that matters is that past poor performances will not be rewarded with more victory in the polls.

It always amazes me how fatalistic people are about "thats' the way it is"

The only thing a voting booth guarrantees you is the privacy of your choice. It is up to the individual to make it work for them, not against them.

Much more than appearance every so many years is required if we are ever to achieve democracy, safety and freedom. Even in Canada.

Like everything we see in nature, all that survives is naturally in constant change.

Only the truly bewildered can't see that evolution is the constant necessary for survival.

Theat means evolution in all of our institutions, as well.

ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY WILL MAKE US MORE ITALIAN, NOT SERVE TO MOVE US FORWARD

Far out man. Like, wow.

[Xman]

What an innate response!! Do not plug up these threads with your crap!! Or I'll tell...nahnahnahnahnahanah

[KO2]

What an inane response to a fresh perspective.

Whose plugging up what with inane responses bereft of facts, considered understanding, broad perspective and totally off topic, but someone who would say this to my post,

"What an innate response!! Do not plug up these threads with your crap!! Or I'll tell...nahnahnahnahnahanah"

[mikedavid00]

ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY WILL MAKE US MORE ITALIAN, NOT SERVE TO MOVE US FORWARD

Far out man. Like, wow.

Lol! those were my thoughts exactly.

Edited July 13, 2007 by mikedavid00

[jbg]

TECHNOLOGY ASSISTED DIRECT DEMOCRACY

To circumvent the strangle hold Party Politics has on the Canadian people, I would implement a system of TADD.

No, more like the Guns 'n Roses album, overdue for 15 years, to be called "Chinese Democracy".

[jbg]

What an inane response to a fresh perspective.

Whose plugging up what with inane responses bereft of facts, considered understanding, broad perspective and totally off topic, but someone who would say this to my post,

"What an innate response!! Do not plug up these threads with your crap!! Or I'll tell...nahnahnahnahnahanah"

You need to make your "fresh perspectives" more readily understandable. My IQ level is about 72 (average is 100) and I don't understand a word you write.

Maybe you're simply too intelligent for my intellectual ability.

[KO2]

Sometimes, especially when I read scientific stuff, I have to read it several times before it really sinks in.

If you notice, I do try to offer original thought, that in itself is sometimes hard to understand because it is unfamiliar.

The other thing is that these are broadly sketched introductions because more detail would get boring.

Basically TADD is a call-in computerized voting system that can be accessed by anyone anywhere from a touch tone phone and a private access code.

I was taught in highschool that the one major reason for our elected representative voting for us was the logistics and poor communications available in this vast land.

Today those things have evolved to the point where it is no longer necessary to give up your vote on every issue to our representatives if you don't wish to. I think to set a threshold, I believe when the range of 66% is reached in any given riding, the representative's vote would be superceded by the electorate's.

It could work flawlessly in the system we have now with a little tweaking and with no large disruption to the form we have are familiar with.

I heard a chinese intellectual speak about far-out alternatives for his nation in the future. He spoke of a combination of autocratic power balanced with elected balance.

I am ambivalent about the distribution of power between a hands on TADD system for the lower house, but hiring the senate on non political resumes.

These are only ideas put forth as starting points for change. I'm sure there is much more creative thinking across Canada than the feeble input I have.

Its the party that rules in Canada, not the people. The Party has its own agenda and only throws bones at the people in a non focussed, except for votes to appease the majority, or a strategic region.

Because the Party's main concern is staying in power, the hard decissions required for long term planning are always neglected.

It is in long term strategic planning only where productive sustainable future lies.

"Victory/success lies in the details of the logistics" KO2---2005

Edited July 13, 2007 by KO2