Topaz Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 While surfing different sites, I came across this one, www.guerrillanews.com There you will find a headline "The plan to disappear Canada" and its about the NAU and how the Canadian and US governments have been doing this for years and the take over to the US. I urge all who care about Canada to go there and read the whole article. Quote
Leafless Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 While surfing different sites, I came across this one, www.guerrillanews.com There you will find a headline "The plan to disappear Canada" and its about the NAU and how the Canadian and US governments have been doing this for years and the take over to the US. I urge all who care about Canada to go there and read the whole article. In reality Canada is only an illusional type country totally dependent on the U.S. for its survival. Trudeau's multiculturalism and the emphasis on Quebec French culture and ethnic immigration along with the Liberal's hatred of Americans as tried to set up a definite cultural difference between Americans and Canadians, which I believe will eventually destroy Canada in the long run. You cannot hide the truth though, that in fact there is very little difference between Canadians and Americans. So bring on the SPP and deep integration to intertwine Canada and the U.S. and Mexico, as it is inevitable anyways and the sooner the better as the current emphasis on culture is fiscally destroying Canada. I would sooner have an American identity than the no name one that is used to identify Canadians as Canadian. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Four in ten American support annexing Canada. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Leafless Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Four in ten American support annexing Canada. Let's translate your four out of ten into percentage. "While 38 per cent of respondents said they would be "in favour of Canada being annexed to the United States," 49 per cent disagreed. Another 13 per cent said they did not know or refused to answer. " So the numbers are very close and most of them probably don't know that Canadian water is considered by their government as a North American commodity and not Canadian. So when mouths begin to dry out for lack of water annexation will be welcomed by mostly all Americans, rather than bicker over this precious resource. Other numbers relating to Canada adopting the American dollar as its national currency was much more positive. "For this year's survey, the pollsters also asked Americans if they would be "in favour of Canada adopting the U.S. dollar as its national currency." Fifty-eight per cent of respondents said "yes," while 28 per cent said "no" and 15 per cent said they didn't know or refused to answer." Quote
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 While surfing different sites, I came across this one, www.guerrillanews.com There you will find a headline "The plan to disappear Canada" and its about the NAU and how the Canadian and US governments have been doing this for years and the take over to the US. I urge all who care about Canada to go there and read the whole article.Sounds like a "tinfoil hat" site to me. I've certainly never heard of the slightest interest in taking over Canada. And if more Americans knew about NL, the Territories and the Reserves, and about Quebec, I doubt they'd be itnerested. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 You cannot hide the truth though, that in fact there is very little difference between Canadians and Americans. Americans elected George Bush, a socially conservative, born-again Christian from Texas who today is unpopular with the majority of Americans. George Bush has given the US the largest national debt and the largest annual deficit in American history. Canada elected Stephen Harper, a socially conservative, evangelical Christian from Canada's own Texas, the Province of Alberta, who today is unpopular with the majority of Canadians. Stephen Harper's 2006 and 2007 budgets were the biggest spending budgets in Canadian history. Hmmm, maybe you have a point there. Quote
NovaScotian Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 While surfing different sites, I came across this one, www.guerrillanews.com There you will find a headline "The plan to disappear Canada" and its about the NAU and how the Canadian and US governments have been doing this for years and the take over to the US. I urge all who care about Canada to go there and read the whole article.Sounds like a "tinfoil hat" site to me. I've certainly never heard of the slightest interest in taking over Canada. And if more Americans knew about NL, the Territories aww, whats wrong them NL and the territories. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada elected Stephen Harper, a socially conservative, evangelical Christian from Canada's own Texas, the Province of Alberta, who today is unpopular with the majority of Canadians. Stephen Harper's 2006 and 2007 budgets were the biggest spending budgets in Canadian history.Hmmm, maybe you have a point there. Harper would definitely not be a socially conservative, evangelical Christian in the American setting. And he isn't in reality either. The 2006 and 2007 budgets offered tax relief and huge surpluses. In Canada, not the U.S. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
geoffrey Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada's own Texas?! Hahhahahah I love it. If only we had the good Mexican food and cheap labour. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
NovaScotian Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 ^ I thought Harper was born in Ontario? Quote
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada elected Stephen Harper, a socially conservative, evangelical Christian from Canada's own Texas, the Province of Alberta, who today is unpopular with the majority of Canadians. Stephen Harper's 2006 and 2007 budgets were the biggest spending budgets in Canadian history.Hmmm, maybe you have a point there. Harper would definitely not be a socially conservative, evangelical Christian in the American setting. And he isn't in reality either. The 2006 and 2007 budgets offered tax relief and huge surpluses. In Canada, not the U.S. Harper belongs to an evangelical Christian church. Do you dispute that? Harper opposes embryonic stem cell research, favours criminal records and potential jail time for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana, opposes abortion and opposes same sex marriage. Are these not socially conservative positions? "The $200-billion in program spending that Harper's Finance Minister has budgeted for this year works out to about $5,800 for every man, woman and child in Canada. Even adjusting for inflation and increases in population, that’s more than Paul Martin spent in his frantic last hours. It is more than the Mulroney government spent in its last days. It is more than the Trudeau government spent in the depths of the early 1980s recession. All of these past benchmarks of out-of-control spending must now be retired. Harper has outdone them all. He is the biggest spender in Canadian history." Quote
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada's own Texas? What other province has more oil and cowboy hats? Quote
geoffrey Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada's own Texas?What other province has more oil and cowboy hats? Wow. What an intellectual conclusion! Interestingly I wonder what you think of the fact that Alberta invests more dollars per capita in genuine social investment than any other province. That we spend more per capita on education and health care. We pay our nurses and teachers more than anywhere else in Canada. We have the only genuine strategy to deal with autism and other childhood development issues that give everyone a more equal starting point in life. It is the richest area per capita in North America and the 5th lowest taxed (the lowest taxed in Canada). It has the most physically active population and Canada's largest national park. Both major cities lead Canada in most parkland per person and per land area. Calgary won a municipality award for being the most proactive GHG limiting city in Canada, our C-train system is entirely powered by wind. Backwoods, conservative, reactionary hicks? Nahhhh. About the most progressive place in Canada in terms of economic policy and social justice. Texas of Canada? Not even close. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Canada's own Texas?What other province has more oil and cowboy hats? Wow. What an intellectual conclusion! Wow. What a sense of humour about Alberta! I hear ridiculous comments about British Columbia frequently and just laugh them off. Quote
NovaScotian Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Wow. What an intellectual conclusion!Interestingly I wonder what you think of the fact that Alberta invests more dollars per capita in genuine social investment than any other province. That we spend more per capita on education and health care. We pay our nurses and teachers more than anywhere else in Canada. We have the only genuine strategy to deal with autism and other childhood development issues that give everyone a more equal starting point in life. It is the richest area per capita in North America and the 5th lowest taxed (the lowest taxed in Canada). It has the most physically active population and Canada's largest national park. Both major cities lead Canada in most parkland per person and per land area. Calgary won a municipality award for being the most proactive GHG limiting city in Canada, our C-train system is entirely powered by wind. Backwoods, conservative, reactionary hicks? Nahhhh. About the most progressive place in Canada in terms of economic policy and social justice. Texas of Canada? Not even close. Gee golly, this Alberta place sounds swell. Can you tell me more of this wondrous land? Quote
geoffrey Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Gee golly, this Alberta place sounds swell. Can you tell me more of this wondrous land? Alberta has it's issues, but it's unfair to say that we are American-like or backwoods by any means. We have alot of homeless right now, under a difficult housing crisis in Calgary especially. Inflation is trouble. The environmental impact of exploration is troubling. Even with our proposed solutions though, we truly are a progressive place. Interestingly, the left in Canada loves the Euros for all their sexy socialism. There is no evidence of that in the Liberals or NDP policy, they hold on to outdated health care ideals, education systems from the '60s and on and on. In Alberta, you'll find that we've taken alot of examples from leading democracies like Norway, Switzerland and so on and implemented them into our social policies. We are the most progressive, euro-like place in Canada in terms of economcics and how we run our social programs. We are willing to try new adventureous ways of doing things, seeing if they work or if they don't. The rest of Canada is overly dogmatic about everything, I can even imagine mentioning private provision of health care back East... despite that all the superior health care systems in the world use it. Yet Alberta receives alot of hate from the left for whatever their perceived reasons are. No doubt, Alberta is very intolerant of those that don't work, that choose mediocrity, ect. ect.. There isn't alot of equality enforcing policies here. You get what you deserve here, perhaps that's what they dislike. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Canuck E Stan Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 name='normanchateau' date='Jun 14 2007, 11:30 PM' post='228933'] Harper belongs to an evangelical Christian church. Do you dispute that? And Dion is what?..... a Catholic, do you dispute that? Harper opposes embryonic stem cell research, favours criminal records and potential jail time for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana, opposes abortion and opposes same sex marriage. Are these not socially conservative positions? Weren't there Liberals who also opposed these positions? "The $200-billion in program spending that Harper's Finance Minister has budgeted for this year works out to about $5,800 for every man, woman and child in Canada. Even adjusting for inflation and increases in population, that’s more than Paul Martin spent in his frantic last hours. It is more than the Mulroney government spent in its last days. It is more than the Trudeau government spent in the depths of the early 1980s recession. All of these past benchmarks of out-of-control spending must now be retired. Harper has outdone them all. He is the biggest spender in Canadian history." I could buy a a new house in 1980 for $68,000, and a loaded Chev Caprice for $6,879.00, and I did. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Gee golly, this Alberta place sounds swell. Can you tell me more of this wondrous land? Sure, but seemingly like so many other things Canadian, it can only be defined by comparison to something American. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
geoffrey Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Harper opposes embryonic stem cell research, favours criminal records and potential jail time for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana, opposes abortion and opposes same sex marriage. Are these not socially conservative positions?Weren't there Liberals who also opposed these positions? Notably Paul Martin. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 name='normanchateau' date='Jun 14 2007, 11:30 PM' post='228933'] Harper opposes embryonic stem cell research, favours criminal records and potential jail time for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana, opposes abortion and opposes same sex marriage. Are these not socially conservative positions? Weren't there Liberals who also opposed these positions? Of course. The question was: Are these socially conservative positions? Quote
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Weren't there Liberals who also opposed these positions? All I know is that throughout their tenor, pot was decriminalised and same-sex marriage was legalised. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
normanchateau Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Harper opposes embryonic stem cell research, favours criminal records and potential jail time for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana, opposes abortion and opposes same sex marriage. Are these not socially conservative positions?Weren't there Liberals who also opposed these positions? Notably Paul Martin. What evidence do you have that Paul Martin opposed embryonic stem cell research and favoured criminal records for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana? Quote
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Yet Alberta receives alot of hate from the left for whatever their perceived reasons are. Gee, I don't know. Could it be because they talk about us like we are the spawn of the devil? http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2...ek23/index.html From the folks who brought you.... Decoding the Left: "Why We are Always Wrong" NDP misery mongers Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
NovaScotian Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Gee golly, this Alberta place sounds swell. Can you tell me more of this wondrous land? Alberta has it's issues, but it's unfair to say that we are American-like or backwoods by any means. We have alot of homeless right now, under a difficult housing crisis in Calgary especially. Inflation is trouble. The environmental impact of exploration is troubling. Even with our proposed solutions though, we truly are a progressive place. Interestingly, the left in Canada loves the Euros for all their sexy socialism. There is no evidence of that in the Liberals or NDP policy, they hold on to outdated health care ideals, education systems from the '60s and on and on. In Alberta, you'll find that we've taken alot of examples from leading democracies like Norway, Switzerland and so on and implemented them into our social policies. We are the most progressive, euro-like place in Canada in terms of economcics and how we run our social programs. We are willing to try new adventureous ways of doing things, seeing if they work or if they don't. The rest of Canada is overly dogmatic about everything, I can even imagine mentioning private provision of health care back East... despite that all the superior health care systems in the world use it. Yet Alberta receives alot of hate from the left for whatever their perceived reasons are. No doubt, Alberta is very intolerant of those that don't work, that choose mediocrity, ect. ect.. There isn't alot of equality enforcing policies here. You get what you deserve here, perhaps that's what they dislike. On a serious note, no one likes stereotypes. This coming from a cod kissin, lazy bum, from a have not province, that when not fleecing the system to buy a new house is complaining about how the government should to more to prop up dieing industries. I admire Alberta for a lot of reasons. It is certainly a place to start anew. Here in the maritimes there are a lot of tradition, family roots and many struggle to let go of the old and embrace the new. In Alberta you can start a new. It is a place that is not afraid to experiment or tell people how it is (Only in Alberta can the premier stumble drunk into a homeless shelter and yell at them to get jobs and be elected three times!). I wish people here would adopt a more Alberta like spirit, many of policies that your province follows are desperately needed here. Quote
geoffrey Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 What evidence do you have that Paul Martin opposed embryonic stem cell research and favoured criminal records for simple possession of any quantity of marijuana? Possession I have little evidence, but he was tougher on crime than most Liberals. Stem cell was never voted on, so I have no evidence there either. His originally strong position against SSM would reflect that he may fall into that position, but your right. I have no firm evidence other than just my blabbering and instinct. If you don't agree with my assesment, I certainly don't expect you to based on what little I can provide here. Gee, I don't know. Could it be because they talk about us like we are the spawn of the devil?http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2...ek23/index.html Hardly any of the articles posted are written by Albertans. A few bloggers from the Western Standard are hardly representative of the overall population. I can tell you amongst the under 30 crowd, you find very few hardline social conservatives. Your just over the mountains, you must have visited here. Do you really find Alberta a huge cultural shift from BC or the rest of Canada (outside of Vancouver, of course... Vancouver is a culturally distinct place from anywhere in Canada)? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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