Israeli agents 'helped Entebbe hijackers

[kuzadd]

can we say false flag operation, it looks that way?? Classic False flag.???

interesting indeed, and oh what a web we weave when we attempt to deceive???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/nhijack01.xml

"In extraordinary claim that Israeli intelligence may have had a hand in an airline hijacking before sending in commandos to rescue the hostages at Entebbe was made to the Foreign Office.

It came via David Colvin, the first secretary at the British embassy in Paris, according to a newly released National Archives file.

we have a name, for the source and we have the source named.

"He heard it from a contact in the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association three days after the Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris was seized in mid-air by Palestinians and German terrorists on June 27, 1976.

Mr Colvin told his superiors that his source suggested that the attack was carried out by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine with help from the Israeli Security Service, the Shin Bet.

It was designed to torpedo the rival Palestine Liberation Organisation's standing in France and to prevent what they saw as a growing rapprochement between the PLO and the Americans.

''My contact said that the PFLP had attracted all sorts of wild elements, some of whom had been planted by the Israelis,'' Mr Colvin added. The message was received without comment by the Foreign Office but later officials recorded that a journalist from the Liverpool Post, Leo Murray, had also told them that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US.

more names, and sources mentioned, and a legitimate reason to benefit Israel.

An official noted: 'If, as Mr Murray's sources allege, the aim of the Entebbe hijacking was to prevent the development of relations between Arafat and the West, and Arafat knew this, it would provide another motive for Arafat's recent approach to the French in Cairo warning us of further attacks.''

Most of the file is taken up with Foreign Office attempts to distance itself from the Israeli raid while privately admitting that the Israelis were probably justified in sending their troops into President Idi Amin's Uganda.

"Most of the file from that National Security archives Is taken up with Foreign Office attempts to distance itself from the Israeli raid"

Frank Wheeler, the first secretary, reported that there was abundant evidence of Ugandan collaboration with the hijackers. Palestinians had been brought from Mogadishu in President Amin's private jet to join the hijackers, according to the file."

editted to include link,as I forgot the first time around! sorry.

Edited June 1, 2007 by kuzadd

[kuzadd]

also being covered here

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1867995.ece

Diplomats suspected Entebbe hijacking was an Israeli plot to discredit the PLO

British diplomats considered the possibility that the aircraft hijacking that led to the fatal Israeli raid on Entebbe airport in Uganda may have been the work of Israeli secret agents.

The suggestion was made by D. H. Colvin, first secretary at the British Embassy in Paris, after the hijacking of an Air France aircraft by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) on June 27, 1976.

Idi Amin co-operated with the hijackers and allowed the aircraft to land at Entebbe, where Israeli and Jewish passengers were kept hostage and others were freed. A week later, Israeli special forces stormed the airport and freed the passengers, in an assault that claimed the lives of three hostages, one Israeli soldier, forty-five Ugandan soldiers and six hijackers.

Four days previously, Mr Colvin had written a confidential report, made public for the first time at the National Archives today, in which he outlined theories on the identity and motives of the hijackers. “A contact Euro-Arab Parliamentary association rang me on June 29 to say that . . . the hijack was the work of the PFLP, with help from the Israeli secret service, the Shin Beit.

“The operation was designed to torpedo the Palestinian Liberation Organisation’s standing in France,” he wrote, referring to the organisation then headed by Yassir Arafat, “and to prevent what they see as a growing rapprochement between the PLO and the Americans . . . hence the unholy alliance of the hijacking”.

There is no indication that the theory was taken further, but the suggestion of inter-Palestinian rivalries resurfaced days later, when a Foreign and Commonwealth Office official reported his discussions with the journalist Leo Murray. Murray said sources had said “the Entebbe hijacking had been planned by Wadia Hassad’s splinter group from the PFLP . . . to prevent the development of contacts between Arafat of the PLO and the West . . . The group were thinking of hijacking next an aircraft, perhaps on an internal European route.”

These warnings were made as Britain came under diplomatic pressure to congratulate Israel on its raid, and struggled to determine the fate of Doris Bloch, a British-Israeli grandmother who was left behind by the mission and later went missing from hospital. Confidential telegrams report that staff had seen her being dragged away, screaming. Within a week she was presumed dead, and by the end of the month Britain had severed diplomatic ties with Amin’s regime.

Interestingly was Israel willing to 'sacrifice' a few of her own citizens, for political gain?

[buffycat]

I saw these yesterday. Wondered if there would be any mention of this in the so-called NA msm!! Nope - notta - zilch.

Given Israel's long history of these type of false flag opertions (which began of course before the state was even created) it makes me wonder exactly how many of these so called jihadist groups are legitimate extremists bent on wiping Israel off the map (!) or how many are just organized patsys set up to further legitimize Israel's "measured" responses (You know targeting of children and civilians and infrastructure).

I have to say I am not surprised at all by this.

Of the top of my head I recall the Lavon Affair, probably the best well-known example of Israel's false flag propensity. Then there was of course the USS Liberty, which had it it been successful would have been blamed on the Egyptians (yet again), recently too there has been evidence of Mossad setting up fake al-Queda cells in Palestine (more patsys). There is also the favoured use of Canadian passports to carry out these 'missions'! etc etc. One could go on forever - or if anyone here is remotely interested they can google it, or read a bit of Ostrovsky (who is still on a hit list).

Interestingly, when one thinks of Zbignew's recent warning of a false flag to be used in order to launch a unilateral strike against Iran. Will it happen? Is it already happening?

IMO the biggest threat to Israeli are her own rulers - the idealistic Zionists and racist right wing extremists. It would be good for all to remember the very real terror attacks used by the likes of Hagannah and Irgun against not only the Brits and Arabs in British Mandate Palestine, but also against their own - in order to whip up even more resentment towards the native populations (which of course included Arab Jews, Christians and Muslims).

That said, it isn't only the Israelis who use these methods - just recall the SAS is Basra only a couple of years ago! (which is one that we know of!). I think it's pretty safe to say that much of what we see happening in Iraq has false flag written all over it. Margret Hassan's kidnapping and eventual murder comes to mind. IOW for MI6, MI5 and CIA (among others) the use of false flags is SOP.

Anyway, great that you posted this. I look forward with eager anticipation to the intelligent discourse that this article may generate on these boards /sarcasm.

edited to add:

Shin Bet involved in 1976 higjacking

Haaretz article

Ynet News

[Topaz]

I found a website that suggests the Israel has sp. agent within the US and the US government and may have direct or indirect connection to 9/11. Other than the US, who would want to take out Iraq, Iran, Syria?? The website is www.tomflocco.com

[M.Dancer]

we have a name, for the source and we have the source named.

Alcan, Loblaws....alcan at loblaws

[Argus]

Also just in! Israeli agents were behind the Holocaust! Yes, poor Adolph Hitler was a dupe to the international Zionist menace and, and no Jews really died at all because they all fled just before the fighting began! You read it here on moronswhohatejews.com, the favourite information web site of Maple Leaf leftist posters!

[buffycat]

Also just in! Israeli agents were behind the Holocaust! Yes, poor Adolph Hitler was a dupe to the international Zionist menace and, and no Jews really died at all because they all fled just before the fighting began! You read it here on moronswhohatejews.com, the favourite information web site of Maple Leaf leftist posters!

Another fine example of the debating skills so eloquantly displayed here!

Argus did you mispell your moniker? Forget an 'e' somewhere?

[scribblet]

we have a name, for the source and we have the source named.

Alcan, Loblaws....alcan at loblaws

Nope - Dominion and the Dominionists LOL

[kuzadd]

I found a website that suggests the Israel has sp. agent within the US and the US government and may have direct or indirect connection to 9/11. Other than the US, who would want to take out Iraq, Iran, Syria?? The website is www.tomflocco.com

Other then the US, who has long had oil concerns there, as part of their "national security" going back a number of yrs.

Britian, ditto, who also has oil concerns there.

Then Israel, who has oil, water, and expansionism aspirations.

[Argus]

Also just in! Israeli agents were behind the Holocaust! Yes, poor Adolph Hitler was a dupe to the international Zionist menace and, and no Jews really died at all because they all fled just before the fighting began! You read it here on moronswhohatejews.com, the favourite information web site of Maple Leaf leftist posters!

Another fine example of the debating skills so eloquantly displayed here!

You want me to take your ludicrous drivel seriously? Go out and buy another 50 points of IQ and stop spouting conspiracy theories.

[betsy]

Key words to keep in mind in this article:

"In extraordinary C L A I M that Israeli intelligence M A Y have had a hand in an airline hijacking before sending in commandos to rescue the hostages at Entebbe was made to the Foreign Office.

An official noted: 'I F, as Mr Murray's sources A L L E G E, the aim of the Entebbe hijacking was to prevent the development of relations between Arafat and the West, and Arafat knew this, it would provide another motive for Arafat's recent approach to the French in Cairo warning us of further attacks.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/nhijack01.xml

[Figleaf]

You want me to take your ludicrous drivel seriously? Go out and buy another 50 points of IQ...

I think it would be sufficient if you would stuff your continuous trolling and abuse into your least comfortable orifice.

[kuzadd]

Key words to keep in mind in this article:

"In extraordinary C L A I M that Israeli intelligence M A Y have had a hand in an airline hijacking before sending in commandos to rescue the hostages at Entebbe was made to the Foreign Office.

An official noted: 'I F, as Mr Murray's sources A L L E G E, the aim of the Entebbe hijacking was to prevent the development of relations between Arafat and the West, and Arafat knew this, it would provide another motive for Arafat's recent approach to the French in Cairo warning us of further attacks.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/nhijack01.xml

Betsy, the documents being discussed were released at the UK national archives, they are here

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...Edoc_Id=7705218

they are the British gov's own documentation.

[betsy]

Key words to keep in mind in this article:

"In extraordinary C L A I M that Israeli intelligence M A Y have had a hand in an airline hijacking before sending in commandos to rescue the hostages at Entebbe was made to the Foreign Office.

An official noted: 'I F, as Mr Murray's sources A L L E G E, the aim of the Entebbe hijacking was to prevent the development of relations between Arafat and the West, and Arafat knew this, it would provide another motive for Arafat's recent approach to the French in Cairo warning us of further attacks.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/nhijack01.xml

Betsy, the documents being discussed were released at the UK national archives, they are here

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...Edoc_Id=7705218

they are the British gov's own documentation.

I know. But this document did use the words "claim", "may have had", and "allege." So there is nothing conclusive about it.

Since the allegation - and at this point of documentation, it's nothing more than an allegation - had been "S U G G E S T E D" (pls note that very word was used), I would imagine that of course, the allegation had to be documented.

[kuzadd]

I know. But this document did use the words "claim", "may have had", and "allege." So there is nothing conclusive about it.

Since the allegation - and at this point of documentation, it's nothing more than an allegation - had been "S U G G E S T E D" (pls note that very word was used), I would imagine that of course, the allegation had to be documented.

The word claim denotes nothing,( negative or positive) it is an adjective for something someone said or wrote.

I am a stickler for defintions, myself.

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

2.He put the allegations to paper, which would indicate he took them quite seriously, or he would not have bothered.

3.He then sent the message to the British Foreign office, again an indication, this was serious and he trusted his info.

4. the information was also independantly verified through another source "but later officials ( british foreign office) recorded that a journalist from the Liverpool Post, Leo Murray, had also told them that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US."

which in fact validates David Colvin's story.

5. these type of false flag ops have been perpetuated previously by Israel, (to be sure Israel is not alone in this as one of the most recent exposures of false flags is the Gulf of Tonkin incident, perpetuated by the US)

One which come to mind is the Lavon Affair

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/LavonAffair10jul05.shtml

"In the early 1950s, agents of an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities. They left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers. This led to a round-up of the entire ring.

Why would our Jewish friends do something like this to their greatest benefactor?

The story begins when the United States began pressuring the British to withdraw from the Suez Canal and leave Egypt, something the U.K. eventually agreed to do. Israel was strongly opposed to British withdrawal, as it feared this would remove a check on Egyptian President Gamal Abdul Nasser in his defense of Arab interests against the Zionist menace. But diplomatic methods failed to sway the British.

And so, in the summer of 1954 Colonel Benyamin Gibli, the chief of Israel's army intelligence, intiated Operation Susannah in order to reverse that decision. The plan called for bombing British and American facilities in Egypt, with the intent that they would be attributed to the Egyptian government, to show what a "threat" it posed. Operatives had been recruited several years before, when the Israeli intelligence officer Avram Dar, alias John Darling, arrived in Cairo under a British cover. The recruits came from the local Jewish population and were trained in the techniques of covert terror operations.

On July 2 they struck. A post office in Alexandria was firebombed, and on July 14 the U.S. Information Agency libraries in Alexandria and Cairo, as well as a British-owned theater, were also bombed.

The bombs themselves were homemade, consisting of bags containing acid placed over nitroglycerine. They were inserted into books and placed on the shelves of the libraries just before closing time. Several hours later, as the acid ate through the bags, the bombs exploded.

When one bomb ignited prematurely in his pocket, Egyptian authorities arrested suspect Robert Dassa. In searching his apartment, they found incriminating evidence and the names of his accomplices in the operation. Several suspects were arrested, including Egyptian Jews and undercover Israelis, who admitted their roles in the plot, which had been authorized at the highest levels of the Zionist entity.

Israeli authorities reacted to the incident with vociferous denials and charges of "anti-Semitism." But the fact that the Jewish state was behind the bombings could not be concealed, and in 1960 Israel's Defense Minister Pinhas Lavon was brought down by the scandal, along with the entire Israeli government."

[M.Dancer]

You want me to take your ludicrous drivel seriously? Go out and buy another 50 points of IQ and stop spouting conspiracy theories.

Well said. To be on the safe side, suggest that 75 points be the minimum

[betsy]

The word claim denotes nothing,( negative or positive) it is an adjective for something someone said or wrote.

I am a stickler for defintions, myself.

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

2.He put the allegations to paper, which would indicate he took them quite seriously, or he would not have bothered.

Check it out, Kuzadd. Look what you just said. Colvin may be in a position to know....and since he is in a position to know, obviously he is not sticking his neck out about something that he knows is not conclusive! Therefore, this is just an allegation!

Check out the definition of "allegation."

[Argus]

I know. But this document did use the words "claim", "may have had", and "allege." So there is nothing conclusive about it.

Since the allegation - and at this point of documentation, it's nothing more than an allegation - had been "S U G G E S T E D" (pls note that very word was used), I would imagine that of course, the allegation had to be documented.

The word claim denotes nothing,( negative or positive) it is an adjective for something someone said or wrote.

I am a stickler for defintions, myself.

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

He never claimed to know anything. He said he heard it from someone in the European Arab Parliamentary Association.

"He heard it from a contact in the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association three days after the Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris was seized in mid-air by Palestinians and German terrorists on June 27, 1976."

So since it is unlikely any member of the European Parliament were in a position to know anything, he heard it from some Arab, who said, as shocking a that might be "It was the Jews! The dirty Jews did it!"

Which is something anti-semites use all the time in their dumbass conspiracy theories, dumbass theories which are picked up by like-minded types and spewed across the internet.

Hey, did you hear that all the Jews stayed home from work on 911? They were probably off drinking the blood of babies.

[Rue]

This is typical. It is typical of the stereotype that when Israelis are terrorized its actualy done by Israelis. Its all part of that diabolical Jewish conspiracy mind. I mean Buffy of course just loves it. This coming from a woman who in the thousands of books and essays on how Jews were expelled from the Middle East, finds one ex Israeli Iraqi Jew with an ant-zionist agenda and an affiliation with the Black Panthers of Israel toargue that no Jews weren't expelled from Iraq because of Iraqis it was Jews that did it and killed other Jews and planted bombs.

Take a look at the aricle. It quotes David Colvin quoting an unamed sources who says the Israelis assisted Palestinian terrorists hijack their own people. Of course the source is unknown but referred to as a Euro Arab Parliamentary association contact. Gee no agenda there to discredit Israel and try protect Palestinian terorists. No this contact (of course no name and no way of proving what he said) who is clearly repeating unsubstantiated third hand information is repeated as if it can be accepted verbatum and then we get the usual Israelis and Zionists conspiracy theory that they aren't victims of terrorists, they set the whole thing up because you know how Zionists are. You know how Israelis are. Hell we know how those people are. They are sinister. They conspire. They kill each other. Its all a ruse.

To come on these posts and repeat third hand heresay from someone with a clear agenda politicall to spread disinformation about Israel to discredit it, and then present conspiracy theories that Israelis kill their own citizens on purpose is pathetic.

Buffy you want to join the band wagon every time you see someone come on these posts with unsubstantiated third hand b.s. that tries to portray victims as victimizing themselves then so be it but do not expect me to take you seriously.

As for the original poster who came on and repeated this article let us hear him explain how this is substantiated and not third hand and unsubstantiated. Let us have him explain how the theories he presents have no objective basis to them what-so-ever. Its simply Israel bad bad bad demons involved in conspiracies horseshit. And that is precisely what it is horseshit because it is simply someone spreading a story and it has been repeated precisely because the original poster and Buffy need to find stories however unsubstaniated they are to discredit Israel. Does it make you feel good to present Israelis as killers of their own people? Does that fit in your Israel evil demon liar theories?

Now let me say this-it is as low as it gets to repeat this kind of b.s. third hand unsubstantiated crap because you are suggesting Israelis kill their own people and of course kill their own soldiers and terrorize their citizens world wide.

Yah and people who get raped they actually set up the rapes. They aren't raped. They tell the rapist to rape them so they can make men look bad.\

You want to come on these posts and debate, then present me something factual. To get on this posts and repeat this kind of b.s. is a joke.

[betsy]

I know. But this document did use the words "claim", "may have had", and "allege." So there is nothing conclusive about it.

Since the allegation - and at this point of documentation, it's nothing more than an allegation - had been "S U G G E S T E D" (pls note that very word was used), I would imagine that of course, the allegation had to be documented.

The word claim denotes nothing,( negative or positive) it is an adjective for something someone said or wrote.

I am a stickler for defintions, myself.

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

He never claimed to know anything. He said he heard it from someone in the European Arab Parliamentary Association.

"He heard it from a contact in the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association three days after the Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris was seized in mid-air by Palestinians and German terrorists on June 27, 1976."

See, Kuzadd. There you go. Argus explained it further.

[Rue]

"It came via David Colvin, the first secretary at the British embassy in Paris, according to a newly released National Archives file. He heard it from a contact in the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association three days after the Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris was seized in mid-air by Palestinians and German terrorists on June 27, 1976. advertisement Mr Colvin told his superiors that his source suggested that the attack was carried out by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine with help from the Israeli Security Service, the Shin Bet."

Come one come all join the band-wagon. Read the above. Proves for sure Israelis kill themselves because this "contact" he or she can simply be accepted verbatum. I mean it makes sense. We know how evil Israelis are. Makes perfect sense.

By the way I admit it. I have been exposed. I kill Jews and Israelis. Being a Jew I like to do this to support Israel. I do it all the time. That's what we do. We are sinister and evil. But why stop there. We killed Jesus so of course we would do this kind of thing. We make matzoh from the blood of Palestinian children. We take Palestinians and pluck their kidneys and eyes out and sell them on the black market. We have been involved in conspiracies for centuries. We in league with Satan. The holocaust did not happen. We invented it to manipulate the world. Yes its true. Take my word for it. Jews evil. Israel evil. Zionists evil. All evil.

[kuzadd]

The word claim denotes nothing,( negative or positive) it is an adjective for something someone said or wrote.

I am a stickler for defintions, myself.

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

2.He put the allegations to paper, which would indicate he took them quite seriously, or he would not have bothered.

Check it out, Kuzadd. Look what you just said. Colvin may be in a position to know....and since he is in a position to know, obviously he is not sticking his neck out about something that he knows is not conclusive! Therefore, this is just an allegation!

Check out the definition of "allegation."

Betsy: I know exactly what I said, and I know what allegation means.

let's move along and read what I wrote in it's entirety ok?

What gives this story credence is:

1.David Colvin, was in a position to know.

2.He put the allegations to paper, which would indicate he took them quite seriously, or he would not have bothered.

3.He then sent the message to the British Foreign office, again an indication, this was serious and he trusted his info.

4. the information was also independantly verified through another source "but later officials ( british foreign office) recorded that a journalist from the Liverpool Post, Leo Murray, had also told them that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US."

which in fact validates David Colvin's story.

there was second independant validation, from a journalist at the time name Leo Murray.Who also informed the British foreign office, that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US."

This journalist validates and further lends credibility to David Colvin's claims.

Ignore as you may, and I get the impression you will.

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But as I went through all the points that lend's this claim credibility, based on the actions that David Colvin took, in notifying, the British Foreign Office at that time, he obviously got the information, from a reliable enough source to take it seriously enough to pass it on.

This is point A to point B kinda stuff, it's not difficult.

if this information was far flung, he would NOT have gone to the trouble of notifying the British Foreign office, he would have dismissed it, He DID NOT dismiss it.

Again not difficult to grasp.?

again:there was second independant validation, from a journalist at the time name Leo Murray.Who also informed the British foreign office, that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US."

This is not difficult to grasp is it? Secondary independant information from a journalist?

who notifies the Brit gov and verifies the David Colvin info.

Also notice each party, put there name to there information received, David Colvin and the Journalist both.

These are important details that add to the validity of the claims.

Then I went even further to recount an additonal false flag precedent set by Israel

the Lavon Affair.

No matter how you may wish the information cannot be dismissed out of hand. For the numerous reason I listed above.

[Rue]

Kuzzad you figured it all out. So as a Zionist Jew I guess it is time I confess;

1. I collaborated with the Nazis

Please go to;http://the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/holocaust/transfer_agreement_between_zionism_and_nazism.htm

Ass they stated; “Zionism and the Third Reich collaborated in their effort to force the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. The Nazis found a Final Solution to their problem and Zionists succeeded in skewing the demographics of Palestine toward a Jewish majority. Camps were built; money was confiscated and transferred to Zionist banks in Palestine to circumvent the British barriers to Jews. The discriminatory round-up of German Jews and their persecution was planned and implemented with the consent and collaboration of Jews who called proudly called themselves "Zionist."

2. my plot to poison Palestinians with death juice

Please go tol www.chinaview.cn where they exposed what I was doing;

RAMALLAH, June 13 (Xinhuanet) -- Palestinian chief of Environment Authority Yousef Abu Safeya accused Israel Monday of glutting the Palestinian markets with carcinogenic canned juice."Such kind of drinks are specifically produced for the Palestinian consumers in the Gaza Strip."

I was behind the above death juice plot.

3.my plot to divide the Arab world

Free Arab Voice on July 22,2000 exposed my plot and as they reported;

“The Zionist conspiracy to divide the Arab states into small units

In 1982 the Hebrew-language magazine Kivunim (Directions), the

official organ of the World Zionist Organization published an

important article entitled, "A Strategy for Israel in the

Nineteen Eighties". The Editor of Kivunim is Yoram Beck,

Head of Publications, Department of Information, of the

World Zionist Organization ”.

4. my conspiracies with the Free Masons

Hamas in their thirty-four article covenant published in 1988, articles 22 and 28 exposed my

Being behind the French Revolution, the communist revolution (all of them) and all the revolutions you hear about. Oh its true. I was behind them all. Here read their articles;

Article Twenty Two:

They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others* in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.

Article Twenty-Eight:

The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.

5. my banking operations

As a typical Jewish Zionist I need banks to engage in my conspiracies but Henry Makow, on June 27, 2004 in an article on my banking activities exposed me with these comments;

“The Rothschild-Rockefeller banking cartel is behind most political (and cultural) trends and its goal is to destroy the nation state, true democracy, religion, culture, marriage and family, in order to degrade humanity to animal status in advance of totalitarianism.In the "war on terror," they have created a bogeyman to establish a system of repression to be used when they call in their "loans." I was once a Zionist who believed Jews needed a homeland because of anti Semitism. I realize now that, like most of history, this view was mostly contrived. Anti Semitism is caused because many Jews serve (consciously or unconsciously) the bankers' harmful agenda. Zionism, Communism and Feminism are a few examples. Most Jews are now totally identified with Israel, which is a tool of the Rothschilds' demented megalomania. If past is preface, this cannot end well for Jews or anyone.”

Yes Kuzzad we Zionist Jewshave engaged in conspiracies since Moses came down that mountain and I am glad you two are here to help us learn and expose the truth.

[M.Dancer]

Kuzzad you figured it all out. So as a Zionist Jew I guess it is time I confess;

1. I

I like most really want to know is can you get me a Harry Rosen suit at 50 points off retail?

[Rue]

Kuzzad let us deal with your comments as clearly as possible;

"David Colvin, was in a position to know."

How is someone repeating second hand, uncorroborated heresay information in the position to know? Because the information can not be corroborated he can't possibly be in the position to know.

"He put the allegations to paper, which would indicate he took them quite seriously, or he would not have bothered."

I made a point of giving you another response showing how idiotic the above contention is. There are millions of Zionist conspiracy theories on the inter-net and that have been written for centuries. The fact that they are put on paper does not make them true. Uisng your logic anyone can write anything and as long as its on paper, it must be true.

"He then sent the message to the British Foreign office, again an indication, this was serious and he trusted his info."

No that is your interpretation of whyt he did it. You have zero proof that he trusted the information or thought it was serious. That is your subjective conclusion. Did it ever dawn on you diplomats pass on such information because that is there job. If in fact the information is disinformation which it probably was, it is important they keep track of who is spreading the disinformation as it can help reveal changes within the Palestinian militancy structure. You Sir simply jumped to an unsubstantiated conclusion based on your own preconceived notion that it is true and serious because it is the kind of theory you agree with-iot suits your preconceived values as to Zionists and Zionist conspiracy theories.

"]there was second independant validation, from a journalist at the time name Leo Murray.Who also informed the British foreign office, that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US."

Read your comment above? Do you even read what you write. How would the above comment if it was made by Leo Murray independely validate anything? Where does it validate anything with substantiated collaborated evidence. Tell us. How does a splinter group of the PFLP planning a series of spectactular incidents to disrupt contacts between Arafat and the US prove and independetly validate Israel was involved with it? Show me or anyone else evidence that links this alleged splinter group of the PFLP with Shin Bet. Show us the independent proof. What you repeated above not only does not address the issue, but simply proves the PFLP was involved, nothing else.

"his journalist validates and further lends credibility to David Colvin's claims.

Ignore as you may, and I get the impression you will."

What you did was to take a comment by a journalist that provides no proof Israel's Shen Bet was involved with the PFLP and now you want everyone else to do what you have done, and fabricate that this comment proves Shin Bet was involved. You have exposed yourself as having no proof and simply speculating and you now expect others to engage in this fantasy?

"ut as I went through all the points that lend's this claim credibility"

No all you did was raise a theory based an unsubstantiated second hand comment from an unamed source and then raised no objective evidence at all to back up what you were saying-you simply repeated your theories and took a comment that doesn't even remotely back up your theory and claimn you are credible. Read the points you went through. Show one point that provides any objective corroborated evidence that Shin Bet engaged in Entebbe with the PFLP.

"he obviously got the information, from a reliable enough source"

Why is its reliability obvious? What shred of substantiated corroborated evidence is there to make it reliable? You think its reliable because it suits your preconceived notion that Israelis and Zionists are evil conspirators. That is why you feel it is credible and it is precisely why I say to Buffy this is the second time Buffy in a few days you have shown us all you enjoy taking subjective anti-Israel, Israel evil poo poo articles and simply accepting them. You Buffy claim to be intelligent. Show us Buffy. Show us how you, someone who supposedly thinks for herself allows herself to kump on this latest Israel poo poo heresay and condone it.

"This is point A to point B kinda stuff, it's not difficult."

Have you any idea that heresay comments have zero credibility precisely because they can not be proven. That is why they are inadmissable in law, and that is why historians will not quote them and why journalists will not quote them as truth if the journalist is trying to be credible and objective.

No it is not difficult to understand why simply accepting unsubstantiated, unidentified information lacks any credibility but I suppose in your world we just accept what ever we hear from anyone as long as it suits our preconceived opinions right?

"if this information was far flung, he would NOT have gone to the trouble of notifying the British Foreign office, he would have dismissed it, He DID NOT dismiss it."

Again you assume because he passed on the information it must be true. Thousands if not millions of pieces of disinformation are passed on daily by diplomats and intelligence officers. The fact they pass it on does not make it credible. And no that is not a difficult thing to grasp. Your assuming that the fact someone passing something on automatically makes it the truth is absurd.

"Then I went even further to recount an additonal false flag precedent set by Israel

the Lavon Affair."

What you did was take an unrelated event and that with no logic, no causal connection and no reasoning leaped to the conclusion that you can take the unrelated incident to back up your belief that sicne ISrael engages in false flag operations, you can simply assume any time you hear any unsubstantiated comment that is negative about Israel, it has to be true.

"No matter how you may wish the information cannot be dismissed out of hand."

The above information and your commments must be dismissed as nothing more then prattle until such time as you or this information provides substantiated objective evidence to prove your allegations-if you do not have any all you are doing is spewing b.s.