Conservatives Raise TEN TIMES more than Liberals.

[Michael Bluth]

Money does help a riding, the bigger the war chest the better chance they have of winning. They can get more material out on the street, buy ads etc. If they have plenty they can even hire people instead of totally relying on volunteers.

Hiring staff is pretty uncommon. It's viewed as money better spend on ads and out on the street.

[sharkman]

At any rate it's pretty good news. The party that raises the most money has a better chance of winning.

[jdobbin]

The Liberals certainly have to raise more money.

One thing of note though: the Republicans outspent the Democrats in every way shape and form in the last U.S. election and still lost control of the Senate and the House.

[Michael Bluth]

It's definitely good news for the Conservatives, and the NDP.

If we see a dip in Liberal fortunes in the polls over the summer we could definitely see a fall election.

[hiti]

\Yep, "soldiers in the street" worked real well

those ads never aired and they still cost Paul Martin his career.

Where were you in 2005/6? The Liberals remained ahead, even after the Cons released ads that were not selected to be released until......... the RCMP stuck their noses into the election and wrote a letter to the NDP and when nobody called a news conference they phoned the NDP to make sure they found the letter that was in an office that was locked up over the christmas holidays.

Well the RCMP got theirs... next it's Steve's turn.

The Greens will take care of the NDP.

[Michael Bluth]

Where were you in 2005/6? The Liberals remained ahead, even after the Cons released ads that were not selected to be released until......... the RCMP stuck their noses into the election and wrote a letter to the NDP and when nobody called a news conference they phoned the NDP to make sure they found the letter that was in an office that was locked up over the christmas holidays.

The Conservatives pulled even with the Liberals in the middle of December.

Pesky thing those facts.

[hiti]

Where were you in 2005/6? The Liberals remained ahead, even after the Cons released ads that were not selected to be released until......... the RCMP stuck their noses into the election and wrote a letter to the NDP and when nobody called a news conference they phoned the NDP to make sure they found the letter that was in an office that was locked up over the christmas holidays.

The Conservatives pulled even with the Liberals in the middle of December.

Pesky thing those facts.

Facts.... Liberals were ahead at the end of December.

[BC_chick]

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[jdobbin]

One thing forgotten in all of this is that up to December 31, 2006, the Liberals raised $6.5 million in the last quarter.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National

While the NDP and the Conservatives gloated over their results, the Liberals were on the defensive, explaining that they relaxed their fundraising efforts in this quarter after raising $6.5-million in the period ended Dec. 31, 2006.

Much of that money was the result of delegate fees for the Montreal leadership convention.

The first three months of the year have been marked by fewer requests for money although in April, Dion was on several fundraisers during the Parliamentary break.

The first months of the year saw a reorganization of Liberal party headquarters and candidates for the leadership paying off the money they owed. The next quarter will probably be more indicative of whether the party has turned around its fundraising.

[sharkman]

Nah, the libs are in trouble with Dion at the helm, that's why they can't raise any cash.

[Michael Bluth]

Nah, the libs are in trouble with Dion at the helm, that's why they can't raise any cash.

Exactly.

2006-Q4 figures were inflated because of delegate fees.

The 2007-Q1 results appear to be indicative of the sad, sad, sad state of affairs of the Liberals.

[jdobbin]

Nah, the libs are in trouble with Dion at the helm, that's why they can't raise any cash.

That must be why they are behind in the polls. Not.

[Michael Bluth]

Nah, the libs are in trouble with Dion at the helm, that's why they can't raise any cash.

Of the last 12 major polls released 10 of them show the Conservatives with a lead on the Liberals varying from 3 points to 17 points. Nobody believes that 17 point lead. Nobody should believe the two outliers.

Both are Decima polls. Both show the Conservatives and Liberals within a point of each other.

Why is this one pollster so different from the others?

Maybe the Liberals can't raise any money because their "supporters" believe the entirety of the polls and don't want to waste thjeir money on a sinking ship?

[sharkman]

Nah, the libs are in trouble with Dion at the helm, that's why they can't raise any cash.

Of the last 12 major polls released 10 of them show the Conservatives with a lead on the Liberals varying from 3 points to 17 points. Nobody believes that 17 point lead. Nobody should believe the two outliers.

Both are Decima polls. Both show the Conservatives and Liberals within a point of each other.

Why is this one pollster so different from the others?

Maybe the Liberals can't raise any money because their "supporters" believe the entirety of the polls and don't want to waste thjeir money on a sinking ship?

What about it jdobbin? When one single poll has a result friendly to your Liberals, you're all over it. But the weight of the evidence shows you are in denial.

[jdobbin]

What about it jdobbin? When one single poll has a result friendly to your Liberals, you're all over it. But the weight of the evidence shows you are in denial.

I've posted on all the polls. Perhaps you can check that out.

[Michael Bluth]

I've posted on all the polls. Perhaps you can check that out.

Of the last 12 major polls released 10 of them show the Conservatives with a lead on the Liberals varying from 3 points to 17 points. Nobody believes that 17 point lead. Nobody should believe the two outliers.

Do explain?

[sharkman]

What about it jdobbin? When one single poll has a result friendly to your Liberals, you're all over it. But the weight of the evidence shows you are in denial.

I've posted on all the polls. Perhaps you can check that out.

I've checked you out. You can't see anything but witchunts on Tories.

[jdobbin]

I've checked you out. You can't see anything but witchunts on Tories.

If you don't want to hear about contrary views, don't read or respond to them. And try not to personalize things. It isn't about you.

[Michael Bluth]

I've checked you out. You can't see anything but witchunts on Tories.

If you don't want to hear about contrary views, don't read or respond to them. And try not to personalize things. It isn't about you.

No, it's all about you and your obsession with Stephen Harper.

Control issues?

[BornAlbertan]

It's still an indication of the level of support the Conservatives and, for that matter, NDP have from loyalits. Remember that most Liberal Party money came in large amounts from corporations, and that is now banned. They never did get much from ordinary people - other than what they stole, of course.

Hilarious... do you have some proof that the Liberal Party stole anything? I seem to remember a commission that was set up and it showed that there were a couple people involved, not the party itself.

Sad Argus...

And not all Nazi's hated Jews or supported Hitler either...but nobody ever speaks anything good of them do they

[Michael Bluth]

I've checked you out. You can't see anything but witchunts on Tories.

If you don't want to hear about contrary views, don't read or respond to them. And try not to personalize things. It isn't about you.

It has now been 35 hours since jdobbin refused to deal with this post. Could it be because of spongebob underwear?

[sharkman]

I suppose it's too early to say, but if the Tories can maintain their financial picture and have these attack they seem to have evolved into pretty effective tools, an election would have pretty good results for them as long as they can stay out of trouble.

[jdobbin]

I suppose it's too early to say, but if the Tories can maintain their financial picture and have these attack they seem to have evolved into pretty effective tools, an election would have pretty good results for them as long as they can stay out of trouble.

Weren't you the one that said that Republicans would win both the Reps and the Senate because they had more money? They were even the masters of the attack ad but alas, it was to no avail. They lost control anyways.

[sharkman]

Weren't you the one that said that Republicans would win both the Reps and the Senate because they had more money? They were even the masters of the attack ad but alas, it was to no avail. They lost control anyways.

No I was not. But comparing the American situation with ours is quite unreliable, the Reps had been in power for 6 years and were highly unpopular.

[BC_chick]

According to Tory-supporters Harper gets more money, is a "real" leader, sounds better than Dion, looks better than him, people who are now familiar with him and are refusing to buy into the *scary* rumours about him.... yet their golden-child can't get above 35% electoral support for more than 2 weeks.

My question therefore to the tory-supporters is this.... what is wrong here that your man can't pull a significant lead above such a "loser?" Could it be that maybe Dion isn't really a loser, or is it that Harper isn't as great as you think? Maybe a little bit of both? If you look at the reality of Harper's popularity, you really can't say "neither" on that one.