How Much for Harper's Make-Up?

[gc1765]

Plus the false analogy between Muntean and Manning's clothing allowance.

Yeah, clothes are bad but make-up is ok...

[Michael Bluth]

Plus the false analogy between Muntean and Manning's clothing allowance.

Yeah, clothes are bad but make-up is ok...

There is a difference between the need for a Head of Government to appear professional at all times and the head of the third party in the house of commons.

[gc1765]

There is a difference between the need for a Head of Government to appear professional at all times and the head of the third party in the house of commons.

Is there a difference between the need for the head of the third party in the house of commons to be transparent and the need for the Head of Government to be transparent?

[jdobbin]

Is there a difference between the need for the head of the third party in the house of commons to be transparent and the need for the Head of Government to be transparent?

Apparently not. I think the argument is that the government doesn't have to care a whit about transparency but they do if they want to get elected.

[sharkman]

There is a difference between the need for a Head of Government to appear professional at all times and the head of the third party in the house of commons.

Is there a difference between the need for the head of the third party in the house of commons to be transparent and the need for the Head of Government to be transparent?

If you are a Liberal PM, transparency is for the unwashed. Chretien was the master of not disclosing, this make up cost is silly in comparison.

[jdobbin]

If you are a Liberal PM, transparency is for the unwashed. Chretien was the master of not disclosing, this make up cost is silly in comparison.

Once again you bring up Chretien. Take some responsibility for your own leader who promised to be transparent but isn't. Since we have no idea what the cost is, how can we compare?

[sharkman]

We can compare by simply looking at Harper. Obviously it's not costing that much. Do you expect it's costing millions?

[jdobbin]

We can compare by simply looking at Harper. Obviously it's not costing that much. Do you expect it's costing millions?

I'd like him to do what he said when in Opposition: that expenses would be transparent and when money was spent, he would explain it and justify it. He has done neither.

[sharkman]

I answered your question on how can we compare, and instead of at least acknowledging this, you simply move the goalposts. A typical liberal.

[jdobbin]

I answered your question on how can we compare, and instead of at least acknowledging this, you simply move the goalposts. A typical liberal.

I think I answered your question about not knowing how much it cost because Harper won't release he figures. I have no idea. Does she travel with him on every overseas flights? His budget is $250,000 a year for the office. Does she get a large chunk of that? In a few years, it could be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I won't say you are typical conservative because most conservatives would ask the question of how much it costs and why.

[Michael Bluth]

I think I answered your question about not knowing how much it cost because Harper won't release he figures. I have no idea. Does she travel with him on every overseas flights? His budget is $250,000 a year for the office. Does she get a large chunk of that? In a few years, it could be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I won't say you are typical conservative because most conservatives would ask the question of how much it costs and why.

You are more than free to walk into his constituency office at any time.

See how many people are working there, guess what the rent is. All of that comes out of the $250 K.

In a few years, it could be hundreds of thousands of dollar.

OK pal!

[jdobbin]

Personally, I don't think constituency expenses should be exempted from line by line accounting. I'm sure Harper would have agreed about that at one time. Not anymore though since he is no longer a fiscal Conservative when it comes to his own government.

[Michael Bluth]

Personally, I don't think constituency expenses should be accounted for line by line. I'm sure Harper would have agreed about that at one time. Not anymore though since he is no longer a fiscal Conservative when it comes to his own government.

You don't think constituency expense should be accounted for line by line.

Harper has included Muntean's salary in with his constituency expenses.

What is your problem with her then?

[jdobbin]

Harper should at the very least be questioned about his own spending when it apparently meant so much to him when Manning did it.

There seems to be a lack of fiscal conservatism and transparency in today's Conservatives. Harper doesn't even bother with a mea culpa to Manning. I wonder what his opinion of all this is.

All taxpayer money should be accounted for, line by line, including constituency spending.

[Michael Bluth]

All taxpayer money should be accounted for, line by line, including constituency spending.

But 11 minutes ago you said this.

Personally, I don't think constituency expenses should be accounted for line by line. I'm sure Harper would have agreed about that at one time. Not anymore though since he is no longer a fiscal Conservative when it comes to his own government.

Why did you flip flop on an issue of such vital national interest?

[ScottSA]

All taxpayer money should be accounted for, line by line, including constituency spending.

But 11 minutes ago you said this.

Personally, I don't think constituency expenses should be accounted for line by line. I'm sure Harper would have agreed about that at one time. Not anymore though since he is no longer a fiscal Conservative when it comes to his own government.

Why did you flip flop on an issue of such vital national interest?

And then there's his attack on Harper for not being a fiscal conservative, while at the same time castigating Harper for being a mean spirited fiscal conservative.

[Michael Bluth]

Why did you flip flop on an issue of such vital national interest?

And then there's his attack on Harper for not being a fiscal conservative, while at the same time castigating Harper for being a mean spirited fiscal conservative.

Very odd, considering this thread started with an attack on Harper for flip flopping.

Some people are so blinded by their hatred they commit numerous offences.

1. Lack of consistency;

2. Trying to intimidate posters by usurping the role of the moderator;

3. Creating false claims of improper behaiour by posters they disagree with.

All quite sad really.

[jdobbin]

And then there's his attack on Harper for not being a fiscal conservative, while at the same time castigating Harper for being a mean spirited fiscal conservative.

I was editing my earlier post but was prevented from posting the edit due to flood control. I corrected it within five minutes but obviously not quick enough for a stalker. I have stated previous to today that constituency office budgets should be accounted for line by line. I have been consistent in this.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....pic=8704&st=489

As for stating that Harper is a fiscal conservative, you'll have to show me where. I have said loudly and often that he has been spending money like it is going out of style. You must have me mistaken with someone else.

[Michael Bluth]

While I was editing my earlier post but was prevented from posting the edit due to flood control. I corrected it within five minutes but obviously not quick enough for a stalker.

When you can't debate or deal with somebody's arguments on a logical level make up false allegations.

Why not just admit you made a mistake without resorting to a personal attack?

Why chastise others for personal attacks while repeatedly making personal attacks?

[jdobbin]

I don't know where this editorialist got his numbers but he said he think Muntean earns over $137,000.

http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=35947&sc=73

But small potatoes or not, we have a right to know what is being spent in order that Stephen can put his best face forward at all times. I’m guessing we’re on the hook for at least $137,492.11 a year, plus travel expenses, just to cover having Michelle Muntean slap makeup on the happy Harper mug. Speaking of makeup, I’m betting we’re not buying Stephen the discount crap. I’m thinking he’s wearing nothing but the finest products, tested on the eyes of only the rarest, and cutest, kittens available. Meeeooowwww, that stings.

Nice work if you can get it. And certainly more than Manning spent on suits.

[noahbody]

I don't know where this editorialist got his numbers but he said he think Muntean earns over $137,000.

http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=35947&sc=73

But small potatoes or not, we have a right to know what is being spent in order that Stephen can put his best face forward at all times. I’m guessing we’re on the hook for at least $137,492.11 a year, plus travel expenses, just to cover having Michelle Muntean slap makeup on the happy Harper mug. Speaking of makeup, I’m betting we’re not buying Stephen the discount crap. I’m thinking he’s wearing nothing but the finest products, tested on the eyes of only the rarest, and cutest, kittens available. Meeeooowwww, that stings.

Nice work if you can get it. And certainly more than Manning spent on suits.

He pulled it out of thin air. The words "I'm guessing" and the 11 cents were intended to make this obvious to readers.

[runningdog]

We can compare by simply looking at Harper. Obviously it's not costing that much. Do you expect it's costing millions?

hehe, point taken. You've heard the old saying, as I'm sure both Dion and Harper have..."You can't polish a turd."

[Michael Bluth]

He pulled it out of thin air. The words "I'm guessing" and the 11 cents were intended to make this obvious to readers.

Isn't it beautiful how such a tongue in cheek column gets taken so literally by some?

[jdobbin]

He pulled it out of thin air. The words "I'm guessing" and the 11 cents were intended to make this obvious to readers.

Until I've heard differently, it is as good a number as any I've heard. I think I will use it from now on until the exact wage and expenses is revealed.

Michelle Muntean getting $137,000 a year is hugely wasteful.

[Shakeyhands]

remember this gem? Did we ever learn what the answer was?

Edited October 12, 2007 by Shakeyhands