$40 Million of FEMA food

[Guthrie]

The Buschistas put $40 million worth of perishable food into trucks rather than distribute it

This kind of callous or even malicious mismanagement should be enough, in and of itself, to have that cokehead cowboy impeached.

[ScottSA]

The Buschistas put $40 million worth of perishable food into trucks rather than distribute it

This kind of callous or even malicious mismanagement should be enough, in and of itself, to have that cokehead cowboy impeached.

I don't suppose it would be possible to supply a link?

[Guthrie]

for those too lazy or stupid to look for themselves:

Link

[FTA Lawyer]

for those too lazy or stupid to look for themselves:

Link

Not to state the obvious, but isn't starting a thread without the link in the first place just being lazy and / or stupid?

That aside...this is a pretty outrageous story. It's not like anyone in the neighbourhood could've benefitted from some free food...I can see why FEMA would just wait until it rots and throw it out. WTF!?!?!

FTA

[ScottSA]

for those too lazy or stupid to look for themselves:

Link

Typically dishonest post from Woody:

In all, hundreds of truckloads of food worth more than $40 million are being thrown away or scavenged for unspoiled contents to be offered to domestic hunger-relief groups, said FEMA officials. Most of the meals were commercial versions of the military's Meals Ready to Eat, which were ruined despite being engineered to withstand the demands of desert and jungle climates.

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=11319

[FTA Lawyer]

for those too lazy or stupid to look for themselves:

Link

Typically dishonest post from Woody:

In all, hundreds of truckloads of food worth more than $40 million are being thrown away or scavenged for unspoiled contents to be offered to domestic hunger-relief groups, said FEMA officials. Most of the meals were commercial versions of the military's Meals Ready to Eat, which were ruined despite being engineered to withstand the demands of desert and jungle climates.

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=11319

I read that part, but I don't think it gives FEMA an excuse. Basically, they over-ordered to the tune of $40 million...the explanation being that the "pressure to perform" meant that they didn't want to run out under any circumstances.

Even if you accept that as top-notch boy-scout preparedness as opposed to negligent management of resources...once the true need was determined and this $40 million was found to be excess, shouldn't they have done something with it rather than put it in trucks and then toss it? I mean, they can't have planned to store it indefinitely...

Maybe they can explain their due diligence here and show they fell victim to improper packaging from the manufacturer or something...but so far, FEMA doesn't seem to be putting up much that would allow one to let them off the hook on this one.

FTA

[Guthrie]

for those too lazy or stupid to look for themselves:

Link

Not to state the obvious, but isn't starting a thread without the link in the first place just being lazy and / or stupid?

...

FTA

No - I started a thread about a news story - I read it in the newspaper - I assume that folks who discuss topical stories do likewise

it ain't my fault if you guys don't keep up with news

[guyser]

Even if you accept that as top-notch boy-scout preparedness as opposed to negligent management of resources...once the true need was determined and this $40 million was found to be excess, shouldn't they have done something with it rather than put it in trucks and then toss it? I mean, they can't have planned to store it indefinitely...

FTA

Throw in the hundreds or thousands of trailers sitting in fields unused and FEMA seems incapable. I guess Brownie didn't do a "heck of a job" .

And New Orleans still is sitting with 60% homes ruined and no housing for those that want to return. It looked downright scary. How they expect to rebuild without any people and any state or city income is beyond me, unless the people of NO want the Gov to do it. Putting the trailers to use would at least kick start some taxes coming in to rebuild.

[bush_cheney2004]

$40 million is chump change to the "Bushistas" and federal 'govmint in general.....another impeachment wet dream. New Orleans has been "rightsized" by Mother Nature...she is cruel that way. They still have plenty of beads though for flashing one's breasts.

[Guthrie]

$40 million is chump change to the "Bushistas" and federal 'govmint in general...

sez the guy who's living off the govt tit

[bush_cheney2004]

sez the guy who's living off the govt tit

That' just more chump change....can't "live" on that. Better stick to counting Nazis.

[Guthrie]

sez the guy who's living off the govt tit

That' just more chump change....can't "live" on that. Better stick to counting Nazis.

so now he changes his story, typical

[bush_cheney2004]

so now he changes his story, typical

No, you changed yours...several times.

O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month....you do the math....if you can. Social Security sweetens the pot. What a country!!!

[Guthrie]

so now he changes his story, typical

No, you changed yours...several times.

O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month....you do the math....if you can. Social Security sweetens the pot. What a country!!!

sure, mr submarine spy

[Guthrie]

so now he changes his story, typical

No, you changed yours...several times.

O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month....you do the math....if you can. Social Security sweetens the pot. What a country!!!

oops - O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month?????

Military Pay Tables

*******************************************************

Pay Grade ------ Cumulative Years of Service

------------ Over 26

O-5 ------ $ 625 (+/- a bit)

********************************************************

according to military pay scale - you're off a bit -- I mean, that shows regular pay, you retire from the military at half pay

$3300???

submarine spies must get some secret extra pay, eh???? :lol:

[bush_cheney2004]

oops - O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month?????

Military Pay Tables

*******************************************************

Pay Grade ------ Cumulative Years of Service

------------ Over 26

O-5 ------ $ 625 (+/- a bit)

********************************************************

according to military pay scale - you're off a bit -- I mean, that shows regular pay, you retire from the military at half pay

$3300???

submarine spies must get some secret extra pay, eh???? :lol:

No, it's half base pay + about 2.5% for every year over 20 years up to 75%, plus other complications that you can't comprehend for "retainer" pay and early retirement for Cold War warriors like moi. Plus Congress has messed around with it a bit.

Either way, can't live large on that, not even in a FEMA trailer.

[Guthrie]

oops - O-5 retirement pay is about $3300 per month?????

Military Pay Tables

*******************************************************

Pay Grade ------ Cumulative Years of Service

------------ Over 26

O-5 ------ $ 625 (+/- a bit)

********************************************************

according to military pay scale - you're off a bit -- I mean, that shows regular pay, you retire from the military at half pay

$3300???

submarine spies must get some secret extra pay, eh???? :lol:

No, it's half base pay + about 2.5% for every year over 20 years up to 75%, plus other complications that you can't comprehend for "retainer" pay and early retirement for Cold War warriors like moi. Plus Congress has messed around with it a bit.

Either way, can't live large on that, not even in a FEMA trailer.

get over it, your out

[bush_cheney2004]

except it isn't even half pay until 20 years -- get over it, your out

Wrong...again...this is a habit for you. Find out was TERA is. Are you sure you are an American?

[sharkman]

Guthrie, I've been scanning the threads, and I've noticed you seem to get into alot of knock down fights with people. Why is that? Many of your comments are sprinkled with sarcastic put downs and name calling which only serves to encourage attacks.

I've had a few with you since you came here and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable. Do you enjoy all of the arguments?

[Guthrie]

TERA -- you mean the early retirement thing???

Look, you're a fraud. You can shuck and jive from no to eternity and nothing will change it.

you are not a retired spy nor a retired submarine commander --

Now, I am tired of hearing your cover story. I really don't care what you do - just that you know, you didn't fool me.

now go ahead and spin another story for whatever audience you think you have, don't matter to me

[sharkman]

TERA -- you mean the early retirement thing???

Look, you're a fraud. You can shuck and jive from no to eternity and nothing will change it.

you are not a retired spy nor a retired submarine commander --

Now, I am tired of hearing your cover story. I really don't care what you do - just that you know, you didn't fool me.

now go ahead and spin another story for whatever audience you think you have, don't matter to me

Here's a perfect example. A running fight filled with accusations and attack that really has you wasting your time, but you can't seem to help yourself.

[bush_cheney2004]

Here's a perfect example. A running fight filled with accusations and attack that really has you wasting your time, but you can't seem to help yourself.

It's true...he always ends up on the ass end simply because he must attack the windmills, but there is no Sancho Panza to watch out for him.

He googled TERA and had to give up.

[Guthrie]

Guthrie, I've been scanning the threads, and I've noticed you seem to get into alot of knock down fights with people. Why is that? Many of your comments are sprinkled with sarcastic put downs and name calling which only serves to encourage attacks.

I've had a few with you since you came here and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable. Do you enjoy all of the arguments?

I don't name call -- I only return fire - if you start, expect a reply - ok?

and I don't particularly care for internet characters who fraudulently claim to be ex-military and or spooks who engaged in illegal activities involved with submarines

and I object to racist drivel ---

now, if there are no further questions, I think we can wrap up the meeting. Motion to adjourn will now be entertained.

[bush_cheney2004]

now, if there are no further questions, I think we can wrap up the meeting. Motion to adjourn will now be entertained.

It's already been "adjourned"...you have been handed your ass...yet again. Of course you want it to be over.

If you find military service in submarines to be offensive, including intelligence gathering (i.e. spying), write your congressman/woman.

Still worried about that $40 million? Cold War chicken feed.

[Guthrie]

now, if there are no further questions, I think we can wrap up the meeting. Motion to adjourn will now be entertained.

It's already been "adjourned"...you have been handed your ass...yet again. Of course you want it to be over.

If you find military service in submarines to be offensive, including intelligence gathering (i.e. spying), write your congressman/woman.

Still worried about that $40 million? Cold War chicken feed.

no, I don't object to " military service in submarines to be offensive, including intelligence gathering " - I only object to frauds who make up stories about having done so --- I thought you would have at least understood that much