jbg Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Ah, where would we be if jbg didn't jump to the defense of Ricki, or someone who may not even be Ricki but just sounds like it could be him.I call it as I see it. I'm a lefty, Michael Bluth is a righty, I don't remember Ricki. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
geoffrey Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Take it to PM's if you wish to discuss such non-sense. The whole group of you are cluttering the forum and wasting everyone else's time. Most of us are here to discuss politics, not to hear about some social drama. That's what PM's are for. It's an annoyance to everyone else here. It seems to be a group of about 10 usual suspects causing the trouble. Let's get back on topic. Thanks. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
scribblet Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 So they have announced they .... .................. Do you write fiction for a living? What else did Stockwell do? Was this all done in the dead of night behind the Parliament buildings? It's obvious a crime was committed and presumably the RCMP will investigate it. Is the rule of law onl apply to parties other than the Conservatives? It looks like a crime was committed allright ROTFLMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPWAhyjglsI It would explain how these papers miraculously showed up at this time - you know when there might be an election. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Who's Doing What? Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 From: 145 HELLTo: 320-3 Just where is 145 HELL? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
ScottSA Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 From: 145 HELLTo: 320-3 Just where is 145 HELL? It says 145 Well (Wellington Building) where the opposition research offices were, and its directed to the office of CRG in the same building. Here's how things work around there: Because of the overlay of unfettered government unionism around Parliament Hill, the boxes have to be transported by union members, after they are labelled by the owners. It is functionally impossible for a box to be "left behind" and then discovered months later, well after the transition team has moved in, cleaned up, and set up their own offices. When the Reform Party moved into the NDP Research offices on Sparks Street in 1993, the NDP had long before moved out. Their filing cabinets still had labels on the file drawers, but the contents had long ago been boxed and moved. Had we found a box with a moving sticker on it, the first order of business would be to call whichever union was in charge of moving boxes and get them to move it. Not only is this "scandal" a non-issue that was thoroughly discussed in 2000, but the true scandal lies with the rather transparent lie that the box was just found. The Liberals apparently haven't learned anything from being drummed out of office for general skullduggery, and are still up to their tricks. It's sad really. Quote
jdobbin Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Posted March 28, 2007 Take it to PM's if you wish to discuss such non-sense. The whole group of you are cluttering the forum and wasting everyone else's time. Most of us are here to discuss politics, not to hear about some social drama. That's what PM's are for. It's an annoyance to everyone else here. It seems to be a group of about 10 usual suspects causing the trouble.Let's get back on topic. Thanks. I suppose we don't need to hear about Eric Clapton either. Quote
Figleaf Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Has Stockwell stepped aside yet, or is he corruptly continuing to oversee the police investigating the serious allegations about his riding? It would be highly irregular and rather shocking for him to continue as minister responsible for the RCMP, given that the fax the Liberals found makes it clear that the member who gave up his riding did so on the basis of a 'negotiation'. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 The allegations were long ago dismissed. He'll likely step down if the RCMP finds it worth while to take a second look, despite all of this being known before. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
gc1765 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 The allegations were long ago dismissed. He'll likely step down if the RCMP finds it worth while to take a second look, despite all of this being known before. I think Figleaf's point was that Stockwell Day is the minister responsible for the RCMP while the RCMP is deciding whether to take another look. Also, it wasn't all known before. It was concluded that he accepted money, but that it had no bearing on his resignation. The new evidence, if true, shows that his resignation was in fact contingent upon payment, which would be a crime under the criminal code. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
scribblet Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 From: 145 HELLTo: 320-3 Just where is 145 HELL? It says 145 Well (Wellington Building) where the opposition research offices were, and its directed to the office of CRG in the same building. Here's how things work around there: Because of the overlay of unfettered government unionism around Parliament Hill, the boxes have to be transported by union members, after they are labelled by the owners. It is functionally impossible for a box to be "left behind" and then discovered months later, well after the transition team has moved in, cleaned up, and set up their own offices. When the Reform Party moved into the NDP Research offices on Sparks Street in 1993, the NDP had long before moved out. Their filing cabinets still had labels on the file drawers, but the contents had long ago been boxed and moved. Had we found a box with a moving sticker on it, the first order of business would be to call whichever union was in charge of moving boxes and get them to move it. Not only is this "scandal" a non-issue that was thoroughly discussed in 2000, but the true scandal lies with the rather transparent lie that the box was just found. The Liberals apparently haven't learned anything from being drummed out of office for general skullduggery, and are still up to their tricks. It's sad really. Thanks for straightening that out I thought maybe Hell was the opposition benches - Clearly this is a non issue and I agree, the scandal is indeed with the Liberal skullduggery - whoda thunk it of them really Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Michael Bluth Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I think Figleaf's point was that Stockwell Day is the minister responsible for the RCMP while the RCMP is deciding whether to take another look.Also, it wasn't all known before. It was concluded that he accepted money, but that it had no bearing on his resignation. The new evidence, if true, shows that his resignation was in fact contingent upon payment, which would be a crime under the criminal code. He being Jim Hart? *If true* is a big question supposition to make. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 It would be highly irregular and rather shocking for him to continue as minister responsible for the RCMP, given that the fax the Liberals found makes it clear that the member who gave up his riding did so on the basis of a 'negotiation'. Found where? Youtube video presents a good question. Where was it stolen from? Charges should be laid. Holland should resign until the RCMP decide if they should investigate. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Figleaf Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 It would be highly irregular and rather shocking for him to continue as minister responsible for the RCMP, given that the fax the Liberals found makes it clear that the member who gave up his riding did so on the basis of a 'negotiation'. Found where? Youtube video presents a good question. Where was it stolen from? What youtube video? I heard it was found among paper left by the tories in the office of the opposition. Charges should be laid. Against Hart, Stock or Rod Love? Holland should resign until the RCMP decide if they should investigate. What a thorougly imbecilic comment! Quote
Figleaf Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 The allegations were long ago dismissed. BEFORE the incriminating fax was found. He'll likely step down if the RCMP finds it worth while to take a second look, Don't you see how that is insufficient? Waiting until his minions decide he's done nothing wrong doesn't solve the conflict of interest that it is HIS MINIONS purporting to decide nothing is wrong. Quote
scribblet Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 It would be highly irregular and rather shocking for him to continue as minister responsible for the RCMP, given that the fax the Liberals found makes it clear that the member who gave up his riding did so on the basis of a 'negotiation'. Found where? Youtube video presents a good question. Where was it stolen from? Charges should be laid. Holland should resign until the RCMP decide if they should investigate. Indeed, he helped himself to private property, and I just heard that The Conservatives on a point of privilege, have asked that Holland be considered, "in contempt of Parliament" for his actions regarding the personal files he has rifled through, the Speaker will allow Holland to respond before he makes a ruling! http://stevejanke.com/archives/220712.php Mark Holland's changing story: Mark Holland's potential issues with the Parliament of Canada Act: http://stevejanke.com/archives/220757.php Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Figleaf Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I think Figleaf's point was that Stockwell Day is the minister responsible for the RCMP while the RCMP is deciding whether to take another look.Also, it wasn't all known before. It was concluded that he accepted money, but that it had no bearing on his resignation. The new evidence, if true, shows that his resignation was in fact contingent upon payment, which would be a crime under the criminal code. He being Jim Hart? *If true* is a big question supposition to make. How can you say that when his comments in the fax SAY EXPLICITLY his resignation was contingent on the negotiation? Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Found where? Youtube video presents a good question. Where was it stolen from? What youtube video? I heard it was found among paper left by the tories in the office of the opposition. Liberal moving company stealing away property belonging to Tories Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Michael Bluth Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 How can you say that when his comments in the fax SAY EXPLICITLY his resignation was contingent on the negotiation? Has this fax been published? Was this a fax that was taken out of boxes clearly marked to be moved to the PMO that were siupposedly "found" by Mark Holland in contravention of the Parliament of Canada Act? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 ... Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Who's Doing What? Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I want to know where 145 Hell is. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
blueblood Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 As a tory supporter I'll say that tactic on Youtube doesn't help out the tories at all. Yah the Liberals might have stole the boxes, but the letter in question still has to be cleared up, it STILL exists. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Michael Bluth Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 As a tory supporter I'll say that tactic on Youtube doesn't help out the tories at all. Yah the Liberals might have stole the boxes, but the letter in question still has to be cleared up, it STILL exists. Sure the issue needs to be dealt with. However, the Liberal wanna-be Rat Packer Mark Holland lying about how he obtained the document ranks up there with the Gurmant Grewal fiasco. I guess we can call this Stephane's gang that can't shoot straight. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Martin Chriton Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 As a tory supporter I'll say that tactic on Youtube doesn't help out the tories at all. Yah the Liberals might have stole the boxes, but the letter in question still has to be cleared up, it STILL exists. Sure the issue needs to be dealt with. However, the Liberal wanna-be Rat Packer Mark Holland lying about how he obtained the document ranks up there with the Gurmant Grewal fiasco. I guess we can call this Stephane's gang that can't shoot straight. Exactly. We don't know if Stockwell is guilty or not -- but we do know Holland is and he should resign. At the very least, this situation has shown that Holland shouldn't be trusted as he is definitely not a man of integrity. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 So is 320-3 the official designation of the PMO? Because that is what I saw for a destination on the you-tube vid. I would think that for the box to be considered "clearly marked for the PMO" it would have said "Office of the Prime Minister", on it, or at the very least "Conservative Party of Canada." I saw neither in the vid. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 So is 320-3 the official designation of the PMO? Because that is what I saw for a destination on the you-tube vid. I would think that for the box to be considered "clearly marked for the PMO" it would have said "Office of the Prime Minister", on it, or at the very least "Conservative Party of Canada." I saw neither in the vid. Steve Janke spoke to somebody in the PMO and asked. 320-3 is the address for the PMO was the answer. Here is the link. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
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