JerrySeinfeld Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Posted February 7, 2007 How is taking out a ruthless jew-hating armageddonist with a nuclear program going to help the world? That wasn't the question. Try arguing in good faith for once. Here: I'll even ask it again and in bold this time: Since the idea is "to have western presence in the region and to protect human rights and freedoms," how will nuking Iran (which would neccesarily involve negating the human rights of thousands if not millions of innocent people in the region) help acheive that goal? Good question: you've stumped me. It certainly appears I have seeing as how you can't or won't answer it. One word: Japan. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 One word: Japan. Ah: so it's not that your obtuse. You just have no idea what you're talking about. I guess that's to be expected, gioven that your "plan" merely a jumbled set of talking points gathered from God knows where. You haven't actually given it any thought at all. If you had, there's simply no way you'd be implying that being attacked with nuclear weapons is what turned Japan into a functioning democracy. There's certainly no other way to interpret the above comment, Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Posted February 7, 2007 One word: Japan. Ah: so it's not that your obtuse. You just have no idea what you're talking about. I guess that's to be expected, gioven that your "plan" merely a jumbled set of talking points gathered from God knows where. You haven't actually given it any thought at all. If you had, there's simply no way you'd be implying that being attacked with nuclear weapons is what turned Japan into a functioning democracy. There's certainly no other way to interpret the above comment, Give it up, buddy. You're just mad that the polar opposite of your irrational hatred for GW Bush happens to be a jew-hating nuke-pursuing nutjob which makes it very difficult for you to rationaize your position. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Give it up, buddy. You're just mad that the polar opposite of your irrational hatred for GW Bush happens to be a jew-hating nuke-pursuing nutjob which makes it very difficult for you to rationaize your position. My feelings towards the current PUSA (whatever they may be) have no bearing on your obvious inability to articulate a rational and defensible position or to conduct an actual debate without descending into playground logic. So spare me the amateur psychiatrics. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Posted February 7, 2007 Give it up, buddy. You're just mad that the polar opposite of your irrational hatred for GW Bush happens to be a jew-hating nuke-pursuing nutjob which makes it very difficult for you to rationaize your position. My feelings towards the current PUSA (whatever they may be) have no bearing on your obvious inability to articulate a rational and defensible position or to conduct an actual debate without descending into playground logic. So spare me the amateur psychiatrics. Rationalizing your defense of a nuke-pursuing armageddon loving jew hating asshole isn't debate, it's pathetic. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Rationalizing your defense of a nuke-pursuing armageddon loving jew hating asshole isn't debate, it's pathetic. You know what makes this extra super bonus funny? It's that ol' Jerry here started this thread to whine about conservative views getting stifled by evil liberals and their media with the ad hominems. So here I am, trying to give the guy a chance to elucidate his position and what do I get? Evasion, obfustication, subject-changing and ad hominems. And it's not like I'm asking him to calculate the value of pi to a hundred billion digits here. It's a pretty simple question: how will nuking Iran contribute to the cause of democracy in the Middle East? A golden opportunity to show a bit of substance, to indicate there's more to his views than mere slogans. But alas: it is not to be. For in his responses (such as they are)we see the truth about Jerry: he's a Cadbury Creme Egg sans delicious, creamy filling. A Kinder with no Surprise. Chapeau'd, but bovineless. You get the idea. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Posted February 7, 2007 Rationalizing your defense of a nuke-pursuing armageddon loving jew hating asshole isn't debate, it's pathetic. You know what makes this extra super bonus funny? It's that ol' Jerry here started this thread to whine about conservative views getting stifled by evil liberals and their media with the ad hominems. So here I am, trying to give the guy a chance to elucidate his position and what do I get? Evasion, obfustication, subject-changing and ad hominems. And it's not like I'm asking him to calculate the value of pi to a hundred billion digits here. It's a pretty simple question: how will nuking Iran contribute to the cause of democracy in the Middle East? A golden opportunity to show a bit of substance, to indicate there's more to his views than mere slogans. But alas: it is not to be. For in his responses (such as they are)we see the truth about Jerry: he's a Cadbury Creme Egg sans delicious, creamy filling. A Kinder with no Surprise. Chapeau'd, but bovineless. You get the idea. BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You think you pathetic position is somehow strengthened with "creme-egg" name calling? Quote
Black Dog Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You think you pathetic position is somehow strengthened with "creme-egg" name calling? Well, it is certainly unassailed by any counter-arguments from you. I assume your next line of approach will be "You sux so bad I wont waist time showing you how much you sux. YR 2TLLY PWNED DOOD LOL!!!11!" Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 I would expect, having been bitch-slapped so many times by BD, Seinfeld would just avoid responding rather than prove his inability to debate with BWAHAHAs. Very curious. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 I would expect, having been bitch-slapped so many times by BD, Seinfeld would just avoid responding rather than prove his inability to debate with BWAHAHAs. Very curious. I have continuously mopped the floor with BD - unless of course your definition of "bitch-sapped" means being bored to death by mundane one-line left-wing soundbites. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 I would expect, having been bitch-slapped so many times by BD, Seinfeld would just avoid responding rather than prove his inability to debate with BWAHAHAs. Very curious. I have continuously mopped the floor with BD - unless of course your definition of "bitch-sapped" means being bored to death by mundane one-line left-wing soundbites. I have continuously mopped the floor with BD - unless of course your definition of "bitch-sapped" means being bored to death by mundane one-line left-wing soundbites. Poor BD - living in a dreamworld where Islamic Terrorism isn't a threat the biggest problem in the Middle East isn't the Jew Hating Holocaust Denying Pres. of Iran, but the USA who toppled an evil dictator and freed a society and...drumroll please... THE RIGHT WING AMERICAN VIEWPOINT CONTROLS THE PUBLIC OPINION IN THIS WORLD??? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Dream on, boys. I'll give DOGGY some kudos here, though: he's reached the pinnacle of the left: he thinks if he talks enough, he can rationalize himself into circles to the point of defending the simply untrue in the world. Gotta love the lefty bizarro world. Quote
Guthrie Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 oy... such a fool Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 oy... such a fool hehe - doggy - the one we all knew in undergrad days - spent too much time at the trough of slop being fed to us by the prof and not enough time thinking outside the box...and his little trio of cheerleaders following him (bubber and guthrie) Quote
Black Dog Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 I have continuously mopped the floor with BD - unless of course your definition of "bitch-sapped" means being bored to death by mundane one-line left-wing soundbites. As oppossed to sparkling bon mots such as: BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Rationalizing your defense of a nuke-pursuing armageddon loving jew hating asshole isn't debate, it's pathetic. Islamic Terrorism isn't a threat I'm pretty sure my statements have always been that Islamic terrorism is not an existensial threat. I stand by that. I know existensial is a big word, but you can always look it up. the biggest problem in the Middle East isn't the Jew Hating Holocaust Denying Pres. of Iran, but the USA who toppled an evil dictator and freed a society Cite? and...drumroll please...THE RIGHT WING AMERICAN VIEWPOINT CONTROLS THE PUBLIC OPINION IN THIS WORLD??? Hmmm...never said that either. So what we've estabnlished here is that our boy Little Jerry Seinfeld is certainly an able foe of strawmen, but when it comes down to it, can't even defend his own positions. Sad. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You think you pathetic position is somehow strengthened with "creme-egg" name calling? Well, it is certainly unassailed by any counter-arguments from you. I assume your next line of approach will be "You sux so bad I wont waist time showing you how much you sux. YR 2TLLY PWNED DOOD LOL!!!11!" OMFG this made my day. Japan had a sizeable military and a pretty kick ass navy back then. They had the capability to attack the US on their turf, Pearl Harbour was a good military strategic hit by Japan. Japan could have attacked mainland USA with general ease. Iran does not have that capability. So this is really an unfair comparison Jerry and shows you cannot put this into any kind of reasonable context. If your next post consists of calling me stupid or anything of the like in which I have seen here in the last page of this thread (in regards to the way you talk to Black Dog), I would consider reporting you. Should this thread be renamed to the Stupidity of the Right? Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You think you pathetic position is somehow strengthened with "creme-egg" name calling? Well, it is certainly unassailed by any counter-arguments from you. I assume your next line of approach will be "You sux so bad I wont waist time showing you how much you sux. YR 2TLLY PWNED DOOD LOL!!!11!" OMFG this made my day. Japan had a sizeable military and a pretty kick ass navy back then. They had the capability to attack the US on their turf, Pearl Harbour was a good military strategic hit by Japan. Japan could have attacked mainland USA with general ease. Iran does not have that capability. So this is really an unfair comparison Jerry and shows you cannot put this into any kind of reasonable context. If your next post consists of calling me stupid or anything of the like in which I have seen here in the last page of this thread (in regards to the way you talk to Black Dog), I would consider reporting you. Should this thread be renamed to the Stupidity of the Right? You either believe in defeating and killing the enemy or you don't. I believe in killing and defeating the enemy. That's what the US achieved with Japan - decisive victory and a message: don't fuck with us again. Certainly the middle east could use that. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You think you pathetic position is somehow strengthened with "creme-egg" name calling? Well, it is certainly unassailed by any counter-arguments from you. I assume your next line of approach will be "You sux so bad I wont waist time showing you how much you sux. YR 2TLLY PWNED DOOD LOL!!!11!" OMFG this made my day. Japan had a sizeable military and a pretty kick ass navy back then. They had the capability to attack the US on their turf, Pearl Harbour was a good military strategic hit by Japan. Japan could have attacked mainland USA with general ease. Iran does not have that capability. So this is really an unfair comparison Jerry and shows you cannot put this into any kind of reasonable context. If your next post consists of calling me stupid or anything of the like in which I have seen here in the last page of this thread (in regards to the way you talk to Black Dog), I would consider reporting you. Should this thread be renamed to the Stupidity of the Right? You either believe in defeating and killing the enemy or you don't. I believe in killing and defeating the enemy. That's what the US achieved with Japan - decisive victory and a message: don't fuck with us again. Certainly the middle east could use that. Jerry, it is more of a case where the US has been screwing with the middle east far before the Middle East had a chance to screw with the US. The thing is, I do not see Iran as a threat or as an enemy. The same way I did not think Iraq was a threat. Quote
PolyNewbie Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 Iran has never attacked anyone in its entire existance. They are also not like all the other countries in the regions which are Arabic. Iranians are Persians. Iran has one thing in common with all the other rogue nations: It doesn't have a privately owned central bank. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 Iran has never attacked anyone in its entire existance. They are also not like all the other countries in the regions which are Arabic. Iranians are Persians.Iran has one thing in common with all the other rogue nations: It doesn't have a privately owned central bank. Iran attacked sovereign US soil in it's attack on the US embassy in 1979 and took hostages. Ahmedinejad was one of the people ivolved. Quote
Drea Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 and do you know WHY Iran did this? Perhaps it could be because the USA installed a puppet regime... and when the Iranian people booted him, he needed medical treatment. Now, if the US would have NOT given him this treatment, Iran would have been all friendly and the world today would be different. check this out: onwar.com ...Anti-American sentiment was strong, and the Shah's admission to the United States for medical treatment touched off a huge demonstration in Tehran demanding his extradition. On November 4, 1979, supporters of the revolution took control of the U.S. embassy in Tehran, ... Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
guyser Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 and do you know WHY Iran did this?Perhaps it could be because the USA installed a puppet regime... and when the Iranian people booted him, he needed medical treatment. Now, if the US would have NOT given him this treatment, Iran would have been all friendly and the world today would be different. check this out: onwar.com ...Anti-American sentiment was strong, and the Shah's admission to the United States for medical treatment touched off a huge demonstration in Tehran demanding his extradition. On November 4, 1979, supporters of the revolution took control of the U.S. embassy in Tehran, ... Phew....for a minute or two I thought that it was a more deep and complex problem. Just refuse medical treatment and all hunky dorry! We shoulda known. Damn us Quote
Drea Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 The POINT, bonehead, is that the US could have avoided this. They installed the shah to begin with and when Iran.... oh frig never mind. Just keep repeating this and you will be fine.... USA goooooooood -- Arabs bbbaaaaad. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
Canadian Blue Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 Iran has never attacked anyone in its entire existance. They are also not like all the other countries in the regions which are Arabic. Iranians are Persians.Iran has one thing in common with all the other rogue nations: It doesn't have a privately owned central bank. Most of the rogue nation's are also despotic theocracies and dictatorships. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Black Dog Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 You either believe in defeating and killing the enemy or you don't.I believe in killing and defeating the enemy. That's what the US achieved with Japan - decisive victory and a message: don't fuck with us again. Certainly the middle east could use that. Hmmm. That seems decidedly at odds with "freedom and democracy and potecting human rights." As for Japan, despite totally losing an aggressive war, it still took 350,000 American troops (and not counting other Allies here) to rebuild the country and reshape it's institutions. The U.S. and probably the entire western world combined simply doesn't have the kind of money or manpower to commit to a fullscale Mid East makeover. So your"plam"l-if and that is the real plan-is an unacheivable farce. Then again, maybe you know it and just wanna 'splode some Ay-rabs and it sounds better when you at least pretend to give a shit. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 You either believe in defeating and killing the enemy or you don't.I believe in killing and defeating the enemy. That's what the US achieved with Japan - decisive victory and a message: don't fuck with us again. Certainly the middle east could use that. Hmmm. That seems decidedly at odds with "freedom and democracy and potecting human rights." As for Japan, despite totally losing an aggressive war, it still took 350,000 American troops (and not counting other Allies here) to rebuild the country and reshape it's institutions. The U.S. and probably the entire western world combined simply doesn't have the kind of money or manpower to commit to a fullscale Mid East makeover. So your"plam"l-if and that is the real plan-is an unacheivable farce. Then again, maybe you know it and just wanna 'splode some Ay-rabs and it sounds better when you at least pretend to give a shit. It's not at odds at all - unless you're from the dreamworld lefty PC ideology of winning a war without hurting anyone but the 3 people in power. Sometimes ya gotta tear down a pieces of shit house before you build a nice one. Quote
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