Justin Trudeau set to enter federal politics

[mikedavid00]

Can you list what he did that ruined the country?

NEP and multiculturalism. Trudeau is the father of separtist thought in the West and a large contributor to separtist though in Quebec.

Ottawa has a lot of senior citizends. Probably like Winnipeg. Some cities just seem to have more. And on our station 580 CFRA, it was a regular occurance to hear a senior call up and say a statement followed by ".... until Trudeau went ahead and ruined the country". That was a regular statement. I heard that statement so much in fact, that I researched his legacy on my own, watched the CBC funded movie, and read about him on the CBC.

My Fiances dad told me the story about how one day Trudeau decided without debate, without discussion or anthying else that Canada would be a multicultural country. He said that things just made the news paper time after time. Discisoins made without debate or consultation.

If anyone is like myself, I find the root of our litteraly all our problems to be due to immigration and multiculturalism. This goes for our heathcare, welfare state, undermployment, wages, security, crime, everything.

Thy way I see it, if there was a standard gov't in power during the time, they would have looked to the US and developed a normal, rational, work permit based immigration policy like most any other country. This would have ensured that only those coming here would have a job and not rely on our welfare state. It would also make sure that a Canadian got a job first, and only if unfiled, then an immigrant could take it. This is why immigration in almost any other country doesn't effect it's welfare state and actually ads growth.

Trudeau was an idealist. A complete idealist. Someone who never even looked at another countries policy on how to deal with administration. Almost every country does this. But not trudeau. He has a vision for Canada.

He was our first dictator. Mulrouney fealt that he could also do the same and govern in the same manor. He was also destructive IMO but to a far lesser extent.

The Canada I grew up in was rich with hockey, Patrick Wa, Montreal Canadiens, Terry Fox, Hockey on the street, CBC media without agenda and shows like 4 on the floor. Fishing by the ottawa canal talking to french canadians. Ranking 3rd richest country after Japan and USA. Canadian business was everywhere. No US franchises. The years of cottages, boats. Many even had planes back then. A garunteed job out of any post secondary training. Where we *really* believed that we were more superior to the US in every aspect and many would argue we were. A place with 8% tax.

Now this doesn't even feel like the country I grew up in. It's not Canada. To me, it's a place where only 50% of people speak English. A place that the whole world abuses. An open welfare state to the world. A place where I am discriminated against in my own country. A place of self-hatred. A place where it's just granted and taken as fact that the US is a better, more richer country than Canada. A place where we let our own die in hospital waiting lists. A place that takes down christmas trees during christmas.

This is not the Canada I gew up in at all> it's far, far worse.

I think that the person responsible is definately Pierre Trudeau. As a many people said, he really did mess up the country.

[Argus]

Come on Mikedavid, Trudeau wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was. He ruined the country.

Can you list what he did that ruined the country?

I wouldn't start with the premise the country was ruined.

Finally, we can blame him for the uncountable billions and billions and tens of billions in costs due to his Charter of Rights. We were a free nation before the Charter. I can't personally think of a single way in which the Charter has improved Canada. I can think of many ways it has cost us in terms of both money and democracy (in the form of the empowerment of unelected political hacks on the benches).

It is quite possible, even likely, that if a traditionalist conservative government had been in power instead of Trudeau, we'd have very little national debt, much less crime, far fewer visible minorities and foreigners, and be able to walk back and forth across the border as we used to. And decisions on national issues would be made by parliament, not unelected judges.

Oh please, do not bring up that traditional conservative if stuff, Mulroney made a mess of Canada enuff said bout that line of innuendo and impossibility

There was very little about Mulroney which could accurately be termed "traditional conservative". He had some sense of fiscal responsibility, but that was just about it.

And really think about that nonsense about not being able to walk back and forth across the border being Trudeu's fault that is like Pat Robertson saying women were the cause of 911.

The only reason the Americans are concerned about our border is the masses of foreigners residing here, often with Canadian documents and passports. They're certainly not worried about Bob and Doug Mackenzie blowing up their buildings.

Trudeau saw, as people see now, with our declining birth rates of an industrilized nation, we need a certain amount of immigration,

Yes, a certain amount. That does not require we throw open our doors to every failed culture on the planet to import millions of their citizens here, and then tell them to retain that culture. This is what Trudeau diid.

IT is made up of immigrants. This whole country IS foreigners, unless your First Nations.

Twaddle. The idea that your rights as a citizen depend on how far back your ancestors were here is silly, politically correct pap. If you were born and raised here you're hardly a foreigner.

The Charter of Rights is a great thing, it has improved Canada in countless ways.

Name them. We know the cost - tens of billions. What are the benefits?

[margrace]

WEll as a woman let me answer this. I worked for years at minimum wages because council members thought reading was a waste of time and women had no rights to wages equal to their education. Pay equity finally got me a raise.

Threatening people with dismisal because they stood up for their rights was changed with Human rights boards.

School board members were no longer able to abuse immigrant children, the example I saw was an English family who were mistreated by the teacher. It just didn't happen to people from eastern countries. An english accent in some communities was lethal to how you were treated.

[Leafless]

Come on Mikedavid, Trudeau wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was. He ruined the country.

I don't know if he ruined it.

Destroyed it, would more appropriately describe it.

Trudeau, the great French supporter of statism, who catered to politically correct minorities turned Canada into a homosexual haven, backed by a communist type backwater charter.

But don't forget he gave us the constitution that entrenched the idea of redistribution and the charter that ignores property rights. And also gave state medicare that wonderful communist type health care program that forbids competition from private insurance and is responsible for the creation of waiting lines and times, only seen in hospitals in third world countries.

But what he really did was give us cultural protectionism and nationalism transforming freedom into state wards, all decked out in red amazingly resembling Quebec state-blue nationalist.

Yes, Trudeau will always be remembered as the PM who destroyed Canadian LIBERTIES and not to forget the guy who gave us Jean-Chretien.

[Ricki Bobbi]

To be fair, he was a teacher and was recently in charge of the Katimavik (spelling?) program.

He was chaiman of the Board of Katimavik (conveniently a program Daddy created.) A seat on a board of Directors and Full-time teaching (although methinks for Justin it was more like occasional teaching) do not a Mount Royal lifestyle make.

Last word was that he was a student, again. Doing an MA in Geography.

He was studying engineering for a while but that appears to have gone by the wayside.

If he can't have daddy's smarts at least he can have his money!

[Charles Anthony]

Trudeau, the great French supporter of statism, who catered to politically correct minorities turned Canada into a homosexual haven, backed by a communist type backwater charter.

Hmm.... I am not too sure about this.....

I am going to have to sit on the fence on this one before I agree or disagree.

[M.Dancer]

Neither dynasty nor folly. He'll never live at 24 Sussex. But he won't embarrass himself either.

He has already lived there.....there are nicer homes in montreal