jester Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Heard this theory on the radio (forget which show) but could it be true. The seven main processes for life are... 1--Moving parts of the body 2--Producing offspring 3--responding and reacting 4--Getting food to stay alive 5--Getting rid of waste 6--Turning food into energy 7--Getting to adult size The main theme of the theory is that each one of these processes are carried out by modern corporate entities so can they be said to be a form of life? Just think the company you work for regards you as either food, waste or a parasite........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 can they be said to be a form of life?No. Corporations need a "legal" status while real life does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 can they be said to be a form of life?No. Corporations need a "legal" status while real life does not. So you don't have a birth certificate or drivers license or passport etc. Legal status is just paperwork which we all have.... And a legal status isn't a requirment for life, just for society...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I was not clear. Corporations are legal constructs (they are not physical) and require the recognition of several people to exist. They are a form of co-operation between people. Life does not inherently require a different person's recognition to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Life does not inherently require a different person's recognition to exist. But it does need two people's cooperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I was not clear. Corporations are legal constructs (they are not physical) and require the recognition of several people to exist. They are a form of co-operation between people. Life does not inherently require a different person's recognition to exist. But the theory doesn't say they are people but that they are in a way alive. A tree doesn't need to be recognised by another tree to be a tree and once a corporation is given birth by it's "legal consruction" it reacts as a live organism. 1--It can and does move parts of its body,( employee's, departments etc..) 2--It produces offspring.(sub-divisions, departments) 3--It responds and reacts to outside influence, (publicity, customers, taxes,etc) 4--It aquires and consumes food,(supplies, goods, employee's, etc) 5--It gets rid of waste,(garbage, retires and fires employee's) 6--It turns food into energy,(profit) 7--It can and often does grow larger,(usually the main aim is to get larger) Convinced yet....... Also it can be taken to court for its actions and held resposible...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearWest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I believe it is wrong to label or treat a corporation as a person. It allows devious people to get away with crimes and hide behind their limited liability. Instead, I believe that individuals should be held accountable for their actions. Corporations don't have morals, nor do they make choices. People do. As far as a legal standpoint, if there is a crime, I think that the individuals responsible should do the crime, not the 'corporation'. All you can do is take the shareholder's money- and they're generally not the guilty ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 can they be said to be a form of life?No. Corporations need a "legal" status while real life does not. Tell that to an unborn child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Heard this theory on the radio (forget which show) but could it be true. The seven main processes for life are...1--Moving parts of the body 2--Producing offspring 3--responding and reacting 4--Getting food to stay alive 5--Getting rid of waste 6--Turning food into energy 7--Getting to adult size The main theme of the theory is that each one of these processes are carried out by modern corporate entities so can they be said to be a form of life? Just think the company you work for regards you as either food, waste or a parasite........ Corporations are owned by shareholders (people), are governed by a board of directors (elected by the shareholders) which appoints a CEO, CFO, COO to manage the affairs. There are many people invloved in the decision-making of a corporate entity, but almos generally it's groups of people, not one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Corporations are new tribalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Corporations are owned by shareholders (people), are governed by a board of directors (elected by the shareholders) which appoints a CEO, CFO, COO to manage the affairs.There are many people invloved in the decision-making of a corporate entity, but almos generally it's groups of people, not one person. It is only an intellectual exercise not a suggestion. But using your idea this shows that only a small part of a corporation is used in decision making, sort of like having a ....brain. So when you are at work what part do you work in.......and does the sun shine on you??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Corporations are owned by shareholders (people), are governed by a board of directors (elected by the shareholders) which appoints a CEO, CFO, COO to manage the affairs.There are many people invloved in the decision-making of a corporate entity, but almos generally it's groups of people, not one person. It is only an intellectual exercise not a suggestion. But using your idea this shows that only a small part of a corporation is used in decision making, sort of like having a ....brain. So when you are at work what part do you work in.......and does the sun shine on you??? The same analgoy could be drawn for a society, a nation, a church, a home or virtually any organization. What's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Yes corporation can be viewed as a living entity doing exact same thing as everybody else i.e. surviving by perfecting their competitive edge. And? Let's just remember that unlike leftie mandatory paradise for workers and peasants, no one is forced to work for corportation if that is not that they'd like to do. Also, what would happen to our love for cars, cell phones and other toys which are too complicated to be made by free associations of workers, if corporations weren't there to pick up the slack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySeinfeld Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Corporations are owned by shareholders (people), are governed by a board of directors (elected by the shareholders) which appoints a CEO, CFO, COO to manage the affairs.There are many people invloved in the decision-making of a corporate entity, but almos generally it's groups of people, not one person. It is only an intellectual exercise not a suggestion. But using your idea this shows that only a small part of a corporation is used in decision making, sort of like having a ....brain. So when you are at work what part do you work in.......and does the sun shine on you??? I work in the same part that everyone else does: the part with awkward xmas parties, birthday cakes, crass emails, clueless management and off-colour gossip now get back to work - big brother is watching!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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