Canadian Blue Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Homosexuality is nothing to be concerned about, I would argue against the need for gay pride parades, however I think gays should have the same rights as anybody else. Besides, if we want to outlaw certain sexual activities then shouldn't that affect heterosexual relationship's as well. The government should stay out of the business of legislating morality unless it is something which produces a victim. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Homosexuality is nothing to be concerned about, I would argue against the need for gay pride parades, however I think gays should have the same rights as anybody else. Besides, if we want to outlaw certain sexual activities then shouldn't that affect heterosexual relationship's as well. The government should stay out of the business of legislating morality unless it is something which produces a victim. I completely aagree with each and every word you said, good post. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Thank's catchme, I think this is the start of a beautiful relationship. But seriously... When it comes to morality I don't think the government should ever be involved. When it comes to victimless crimes people should be free to do as they want unless they aren't at the age of consent, and as long as they aren't harming anyone else. At the same time those things should be behind closed doors and in private. I think everyone simply has to learn how to respect other people's right's. I haven't seen any evidence that criminalizing victimless crimes has made much of an impact in helping society, despite the lawmakers acting on good intention's. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 I am not sure what you mean by victimless crime? I do not consider, people's sexual proclivities, that are not the old missionary position, as crimes let alone ones that are vicitimless. But come to think of it, maybe the missionary position should be criminalized, as it affords women the least amount of pleasure possible. Seriously though... Unless, it is pedeophilia, snuff sex or sex with a dead person, incest, sex with a minor, and sexual assault, sex with an animal living, or dead, nothing else is criminal IMO. Not that I would engage in all the activities that are out there, to chose from, but that is my personal private business to decide what I find sexually stimulating, or not. Morality needs to be taken completely out of the topic/or ideology of non-criminal sex let alone thinking the government should be legistlating it. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 What I mean by victimless crimes, is crimes of consent. So things like drug use, sodomy, prostitution, etc. I think that in regards to drugs they should be legalized or decriminalized, however regulated by the government. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
blackascoal Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 How does one find an occurrance that is evident MILLIONS and MILLIONS of times in virtually every corner of the earth to be an "anamoly"? I think that something that happens about 2% of the time can be considered an anomoly can it not? Are you suggesting that homosexuals make up 2% of the population. What country do you live in? Quote
Liam Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Homosexuality is nothing to be concerned about, I would argue against the need for gay pride parades, however I think gays should have the same rights as anybody else... Perhaps when gay people do have all the same rights, the gay pride parades will stop and homophobes can once again safely walk the streets each June without overt signs of the gays? Quote
Canadian Blue Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Perhaps when gay people do have all the same rights, the gay pride parades will stop and homophobes can once again safely walk the streets each June without overt signs of the gays? I believe gay people do have all the same rights. Besides it's not about homophobia, I don't see the point in having a parade. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 What I mean by victimless crimes, is crimes of consent. So things like drug use, sodomy, prostitution, etc. I think that in regards to drugs they should be legalized or decriminalized, however regulated by the government. Thank you, for your explanation. I agree but don't either. I do not see sodomy or prostitution as crimes. Sodomy has not been against the law in Canada for a good long time. And actually prostitution isn't either. The law against communication or Bawdy House laws need to be changed making it fully legal and regulated by the government as with any other profession. Drugs I agree with you completely on the legalized and regulated. Prohibition does not work. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
White Doors Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 I agree, everyone should have equal rights. It doesn't change the fact that homosexuality IS an anomoly however. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Leafless sez: Working with a homosexual could threaten my tolerance to the point where I could have to leave my place of employment creating in turn, possible economic hardship for my family, thus placing an unecessary burden and strain on society. It's hardly your gay co-worker's fault, or the fault of homosexuals in general, that you can't keep your mind off hot man-on-man action. Quote
leonardcohen Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Perhaps when gay people do have all the same rights, the gay pride parades will stop and homophobes can once again safely walk the streets each June without overt signs of the gays? I believe gay people do have all the same rights. Besides it's not about homophobia, I don't see the point in having a parade. I agree with that point,consider how the gay right activists would be up in arms over a hetero pride parade. They would accuse them of flaunting their sexuality. Here in Ottawa,The Gay Pride parade is in danger of being cancelled this year because they still haven't paid their bills from last year and are lobbying city council for more cash. Quote Whatever Thy Hand Finds To Do- Do With All Thy Might!
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 I agree with that point,consider how the gay right activists would be up in arms over a hetero pride parade. They would accuse them of flaunting their sexuality. If anything, they would acuse them of swiping a symbol that is meaningful to the queer community. The idea of a "hetero pride" parade strike sme as childish and petulant. Quote
leonardcohen Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 If anything, they would acuse them of swiping a symbol that is meaningful to the queer community. The idea of a "hetero pride" parade strike sme as childish and petulant. ''Of course it is,to steal another groups ideas and symbols,and to mock them openly is bad form and generally reveals said group to be bereft of empathy and tolerance''. Quote Whatever Thy Hand Finds To Do- Do With All Thy Might!
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 ''Of course it is,to steal another groups ideas and symbols,and to mock them openly is bad form and generally reveals said group to be bereft of empathy and tolerance''. You're right, stealing the queer community's symbol would be bad form and an indicator of intolerance. I just don't get the fuss heteros get into over Pride. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Oh dear. What to make of this? ...according to the Centers for Disease Control’s National Survey of Family Growth...38.2 percent of men between 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex. Compare that with the CDC’s 1992 National Health and Social Life survey, which found that only 25.6 percent of men 18 to 59 and 20.4 percent of women 18 to 59 indulged in it. Quote
Catchme Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Working with a homosexual could threaten my tolerance to the point where I could have to leave my place of employment creating in turn, possible economic hardship for my family, thus placing an unecessary burden and strain on society. It's hardly your gay co-worker's fault, or the fault of homosexuals in general, that you can't keep your mind off hot man-on-man action. You article was interesting regarding the increased anal sex between hetro's. Of course, the narrow minded would say that it is the homo sexual that have corrupted hetro's and use it as an example. They would never see it as casting off sexual taboo's that have been imposed in the name of "morality". Nor do they understand sex does not = morals or lack there of. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
White Doors Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 What kind of sicko would balme that on queers? that's just a weird thing to say. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Liam Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 What kind of sicko would balme that on queers? that's just a weird thing to say. Rational people agree that it would be a weird thing to say, but that doesn't mean that some of the most heard voices aren't weird. Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 partly on gay people, so why not blame the gradual slouching towards Gamorrah on us, too? Quote
Catchme Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 What kind of sicko would balme that on queers? that's just a weird thing to say. Rational people agree that it would be a weird thing to say, but that doesn't mean that some of the most heard voices aren't weird. Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 partly on gay people, so why not blame the gradual slouching towards Gamorrah on us, too? Well, Pat Robertson blammed 911 on feminists and women's liberation so.... Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 What kind of sicko would balme that on queers? that's just a weird thing to say. To some people, WD, everything is the fault of Teh Homos. Quote
stignasty Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 The BBC2 aired a documentary on the members of the Westboro Baptist church (those of "god hates fags" fame) on April 1. It's available for view at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...858417528&hl=en Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
rover1 Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 I've been ignoring this thread since I saw it, and just read it through. I couldn't help but respond, because the comments have been so typical. Personal attacks, accusations of hate speech and the like. Usually when someone is wrong the motive is to inform them with better information and links. Why do people resort with attacks when someone says something against gayness? I have to agree with sharkman when he mentions personal attacks and accusations. It would be better to show how the proposition is faulty, than to worry about its proposer. I haven't read the Ukrainian statement, and I don't expect that I shall. It is not a subject of especial interest for me. Quote
Leafless Posted April 11, 2007 Author Report Posted April 11, 2007 Leafless sez:Working with a homosexual could threaten my tolerance to the point where I could have to leave my place of employment creating in turn, possible economic hardship for my family, thus placing an unecessary burden and strain on society. It's hardly your gay co-worker's fault, or the fault of homosexuals in general, that you can't keep your mind off hot man-on-man action. You are defining the major difference relating to the mind of a homosexual that "man to man' action does not exist in the mind of heterosexuals. This is one of the potentially troubling aspects that could occur when working with a sexually depraved homosexual third sex, misfit. Quote
guyser Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 This is one of the potentially troubling aspects that could occur when working with a sexually depraved homosexual third sex, misfit. Well , take solace in the fact that there are very very few sexually depraved gays out there. Oh but you should worry about the plentiful sexually depraved heterosexual people out there. IOW, dont create in your mind that which is not there. Quote
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