Plamegate RIP

[Shady]

Unfortunately for her vanity lawsuit, the “leaker” in the Valerie Plame “scandal” is the one Bush administration official she didn’t sue.

According to an article written by Newsweek’s Michael Isikoff’s entitled “The Man Who Said Too Much,” the first person to tell the press that Valerie Plame sent her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson, on his preposterous trip to Niger was then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.

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Armitage, a well-known gossip who loves to dish and receive juicy tidbits about Washington characters, apparently hadn't thought through the possible implications of telling Novak about Plame's identity. "I'm afraid I may be the guy that caused this whole thing," he later told Carl Ford Jr., State's intelligence chief. Ford says Armitage admitted to him that he had "slipped up" and told Novak more than he should have.

The disclosures about Armitage, gleaned from interviews with colleagues, friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of harming anyone.

Newsweek

[Shady]

Still more fallout from Plamegate.

"Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously".

Washington Post

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/lea...tage/index.html

Armitage said he was the one who leaked it, but did not think it was a big deal at the time. Uh huh. Well at least he is comming forward, although TOO LATE for Plame.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/07/...in1981433.shtml

"Oh I feel terrible. Every day, I think I let down the president. I let down the Secretary of State. I let down my department, my family and I also let down Mr. and Mrs. Wilson," he says.

Chances of him getting fired/charged/thrown in jail?? SLIM TO NIL.

[sharkman]

Another misdirected, misinformed miscue witch hunt by the Dems goes down in flames. They haven't been the same since Bubba. Oh well, back to the impeach Dubya strategy.

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Another misdirected, misinformed miscue witch hunt by the Dems goes down in flames. They haven't been the same since Bubba. Oh well, back to the impeach Dubya strategy.

Typical reaction from the 'right'. Not sure what witches we are hunting. I'd say that the Administration is misdirected and misdirecting (like the CIA - Ira(Q) Al(Q)eada link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8605680/

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Monday that if anyone on his staff committed a crime in the CIA-leak case, that person will "no longer work in my administration." His statement represented a shift from a previous comment, when he said that he would fire anyone shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of a CIA officer.

Come on guys, hypocrites abound in this Administration and no one seems to be paying any attention. Armitage will not get fired or charged or anything. That goes against when Bush said. Initially Carl Rove was the suspect, until Armitage fessed up to the incident. And all that was due to the botched intelligence about the yellow cake from Niger. One screw up to cover another screw up.

[sharkman]

Typical reaction from the 'right'. Not sure what witches we are hunting. I'd say that the Administration is misdirected and misdirecting (like the CIA - Ira(Q) Al(Q)eada link.

Come on guys, hypocrites abound in this Administration and no one seems to be paying any attention. Armitage will not get fired or charged or anything. That goes against when Bush said. Initially Carl Rove was the suspect, until Armitage fessed up to the incident. And all that was due to the botched intelligence about the yellow cake from Niger. One screw up to cover another screw up.

Dude, you better get a liberal playbook fast. The witch is Bush. They figure if they can 'get' enough of Bush's assistant witches, sooner or later they can draw a bead on the big witch himself.

How come no one is being charged? Liberal judges lawyers the land over would love to get in on this action. But they can't, mostly because no criminal activity took place. Why else is nobody being charged.

[B. Max]

Typical reaction from the 'right'. Not sure what witches we are hunting. I'd say that the Administration is misdirected and misdirecting (like the CIA - Ira(Q) Al(Q)eada link.

Come on guys, hypocrites abound in this Administration and no one seems to be paying any attention. Armitage will not get fired or charged or anything. That goes against when Bush said. Initially Carl Rove was the suspect, until Armitage fessed up to the incident. And all that was due to the botched intelligence about the yellow cake from Niger. One screw up to cover another screw up.

Dude, you better get a liberal playbook fast. The witch is Bush. They figure if they can 'get' enough of Bush's assistant witches, sooner or later they can draw a bead on the big witch himself.

How come no one is being charged? Liberal judges lawyers the land over would love to get in on this action. But they can't, mostly because no criminal activity took place. Why else is nobody being charged.

You are correct. It was another liberal witch hunt that turned out to be a snipe hunt for the dems.

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Evan after Bush said he would fire anyone and charge anyone involved in theleaking of CIA information, LIKE Plame. Trying to hold Bush to his own words is not a witch hunt. He is a hypocrite and a liar if he does not pursue any legal action against any one in this case. And all in all the witch IS Bush for he is the one giving the orders, then going back on his word. How many lies can you consistantly swallow from this administration? your stomach must be full, I know I throw up every time I catch a wiff of the hypocracy in that givernment.

[B. Max]

Evan after Bush said he would fire anyone and charge anyone involved in theleaking of CIA information, LIKE Plame. Trying to hold Bush to his own words is not a witch hunt. He is a hypocrite and a liar if he does not pursue any legal action against any one in this case. And all in all the witch IS Bush for he is the one giving the orders, then going back on his word. How many lies can you consistantly swallow from this administration? your stomach must be full, I know I throw up every time I catch a wiff of the hypocracy in that givernment.

It was fitzgerald's job to investigate and charge. As we all learned before the case ever ended there was no crime and that's why there was no charge of leaking the identity of a CIA under cover agent. What started out as a witch hunt turned into some sort of inquisition by rabid leftist sickle swingers.

[Black Dog]

It was fitzgerald's job to investigate and charge. As we all learned before the case ever ended there was no crime and that's why there was no charge of leaking the identity of a CIA under cover agent. What started out as a witch hunt turned into some sort of inquisition by rabid leftist sickle swingers.

Actually, Fitzgerald said he was unable to determine if any crime was committed because of obstruction by Bush administration officials. That's why Libby was indicted.

[B. Max]

It was fitzgerald's job to investigate and charge. As we all learned before the case ever ended there was no crime and that's why there was no charge of leaking the identity of a CIA under cover agent. What started out as a witch hunt turned into some sort of inquisition by rabid leftist sickle swingers.

Actually, Fitzgerald said he was unable to determine if any crime was committed because of obstruction by Bush administration officials. That's why Libby was indicted.

Like i said, we all new before it was over that no crime was committed. When Fitzgerald finally realized the same he tried to salvage something out of it by trying to trip up Libby. Since there was no crime there was no reason for obstruction.

[Black Dog]

Like i said, we all new before it was over that no crime was committed. When Fitzgerald finally realized the same he tried to salvage something out of it by trying to trip up Libby. Since there was no crime there was no reason for obstruction.

So you're saying Fitzgerald had nothing and invented groundless charges of obstruction, perjury etc.? Wow. He must be pretty good if he's able to convince a grand jury to lay charges for nothing. Let me explain it to you again: if the investigation was obstructed, how do you know there was no crime?

[B. Max]

Like i said, we all new before it was over that no crime was committed. When Fitzgerald finally realized the same he tried to salvage something out of it by trying to trip up Libby. Since there was no crime there was no reason for obstruction.

So you're saying Fitzgerald had nothing and invented groundless charges of obstruction, perjury etc.? Wow. He must be pretty good if he's able to convince a grand jury to lay charges for nothing. Let me explain it to you again: if the investigation was obstructed, how do you know there was no crime?

Because there wasn't. We new it before and we know it now.

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Evan after Bush said he would fire anyone and charge anyone involved in theleaking of CIA information, LIKE Plame. Trying to hold Bush to his own words is not a witch hunt. He is a hypocrite and a liar if he does not pursue any legal action against any one in this case. And all in all the witch IS Bush for he is the one giving the orders, then going back on his word. How many lies can you consistantly swallow from this administration? your stomach must be full, I know I throw up every time I catch a wiff of the hypocracy in that givernment.

It was fitzgerald's job to investigate and charge. As we all learned before the case ever ended there was no crime and that's why there was no charge of leaking the identity of a CIA under cover agent. What started out as a witch hunt turned into some sort of inquisition by rabid leftist sickle swingers.

So much for government accountability. This is the reason why the kooks on the left are pissed. But the right fails to see that.

Bush says he will prosecute.

They found who leaked it, he admited it.

No action will be taken against him.

THAT is the problem. But don't worry, eventhough the Bush admin lied to you before, you still take it and love it.

You don't care that there was no yellowcake from Niger.

You don't care that the CIA told you there were NO links between Iraq and Al-Queda.

You don't care it was all a smear campaing against Wilson who told them the intelligence was faulty.

You don't care that Plame was revealed because of Wilson did not support the Iraq War.

You don't care that Bush has relied on faulty intelligence and recomendations for (what I beleive) most of his choices as President.

This is the problem The Left has, the administration is not holding people accountable for their actions eventhought it said it would. Again, the lies, how many can you swallow before you get full or get sick of it alltogether. The Bush Administration seems to be giving out lies by the bucket load.

So when it comes to The Right - Accountability = Witch Hunt.

[B. Max]

Evan after Bush said he would fire anyone and charge anyone involved in theleaking of CIA information, LIKE Plame. Trying to hold Bush to his own words is not a witch hunt. He is a hypocrite and a liar if he does not pursue any legal action against any one in this case. And all in all the witch IS Bush for he is the one giving the orders, then going back on his word. How many lies can you consistantly swallow from this administration? your stomach must be full, I know I throw up every time I catch a wiff of the hypocracy in that givernment.

It was fitzgerald's job to investigate and charge. As we all learned before the case ever ended there was no crime and that's why there was no charge of leaking the identity of a CIA under cover agent. What started out as a witch hunt turned into some sort of inquisition by rabid leftist sickle swingers.

So much for government accountability. This is the reason why the kooks on the left are pissed. But the right fails to see that.

Bush says he will prosecute.

They found who leaked it, he admited it.

No action will be taken against him.

THAT is the problem. But don't worry, eventhough the Bush admin lied to you before, you still take it and love it.

You don't care that there was no yellowcake from Niger.

You don't care that the CIA told you there were NO links between Iraq and Al-Queda.

You don't care it was all a smear campaing against Wilson who told them the intelligence was faulty.

You don't care that Plame was revealed because of Wilson did not support the Iraq War.

You don't care that Bush has relied on faulty intelligence and recomendations for (what I beleive) most of his choices as President.

This is the problem The Left has, the administration is not holding people accountable for their actions eventhought it said it would. Again, the lies, how many can you swallow before you get full or get sick of it alltogether. The Bush Administration seems to be giving out lies by the bucket load.

So when it comes to The Right - Accountability = Witch Hunt.

Still pumping out those old lies. The dems are a disgrace and have been undermining the war for political gain which can only be summed up as traitorous. What part of no crime committed don't they understand.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2.../11/13956.shtml

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Also I find that talking/reasoning with the right is like slamming your melon into a brick wall with spikes protruding from it.

[Black Dog]

Because there wasn't. We new it before and we know it now.

Oh you "new" it, did you? Well, how did you "new"? You, sir, are a dullard.

[B. Max]

Because there wasn't. We new it before and we know it now.

Oh you "new" it, did you? Well, how did you "new"? You, sir, are a dullard.

I have a better idea MR. prosecutor. Tell us what the law says. Where it concerns Fitzgeralds original investigation. Tell us what law was broken and be precise.

[Black Dog]

I have a better idea MR. prosecutor. Tell us what the law says. Where it concerns Fitzgeralds original investigation. Tell us what law was broken and be precise.

For the third time: according to him, Fitzgerald was unable to perform a complete investigation due to the obstruction. Now, that doesn't prove a crime took place, but it doesn't show one did not. What we do know is that Scooter Libby is looking at one count of obstruction of justice, two counts of making false statements, and two perjury counts because of allegedly false statements made before the grand jury. Now, if no crime had been committed, I'd have to wonder why Libby would place himself in a position where he could end up facing 30 years in the clink. So either the administration employs pathological liars, or they are obstructing justice and covering up illegal activities. Either way, I can see why someone like you would be proud of them.

[B. Max]

I have a better idea MR. prosecutor. Tell us what the law says. Where it concerns Fitzgeralds original investigation. Tell us what law was broken and be precise.

For the third time: according to him, Fitzgerald was unable to perform a complete investigation due to the obstruction. Now, that doesn't prove a crime took place, but it doesn't show one did not. What we do know is that Scooter Libby is looking at one count of obstruction of justice, two counts of making false statements, and two perjury counts because of allegedly false statements made before the grand jury. Now, if no crime had been committed, I'd have to wonder why Libby would place himself in a position where he could end up facing 30 years in the clink. So either the administration employs pathological liars, or they are obstructing justice and covering up illegal activities. Either way, I can see why someone like you would be proud of them.

That's not what I asked you. Care to try again.

[Black Dog]

That's not what I asked you. Care to try again.

No, not really. I don't think I can explain it any clearer without the use of hand puppets.

[B. Max]

That's not what I asked you. Care to try again.

No, not really. I don't think I can explain it any clearer without the use of hand puppets.

I didn't think so.