jdobbin Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 I wonder if the the terror threat will push those numbers up. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14301521/ Quote
Black Dog Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 I wonder if the the terror threat will push those numbers up.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14301521/ He hopes so. But Bush's Republicans hoped the raid would yield political gains."I'd rather be talking about this than all of the other things that Congress hasn't done well," one Republican congressional aide told AFP on condition of anonymity because of possible reprisals. "Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big," said another White House official, who also spoke on condition of not being named, adding that some Democratic candidates won't "look as appealing" under the circumstances. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
sharkman Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 People on both sides have hopes for the polling numbers. Dems hope people assume this latest threat proves the U.S. has lost the war on terrorism and drop Bush like a cheap lawn chair. And Republicans hope people assume Bush is keeping the country safe and support him. Whats new. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Author Report Posted August 12, 2006 People on both sides have hopes for the polling numbers. Dems hope people assume this latest threat proves the U.S. has lost the war on terrorism and drop Bush like a cheap lawn chair. And Republicans hope people assume Bush is keeping the country safe and support him. Whats new. Traditionally, when a President's numbers are this low in his second term, he loses many seats in Congress. That's what's new. Quote
sharkman Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Traditionally, when a President's numbers are this low in his second term, he loses many seats in Congress. That's what's new. Since it's traditional, it's not so new. But it could be an interesting electoral season. I was hoping the Republicans could squeeze a few more seats out of the senate and get a majority of 60, which I believe is the threshold to force votes on things like judge appointments which the Dems have had stalled for several years. The Republicans could lose seats, or the best laid plans of terrorists could end up helping Bush. Poetic justice if you ask me. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Author Report Posted August 12, 2006 Since it's traditional, it's not so new. But it could be an interesting electoral season. I was hoping the Republicans could squeeze a few more seats out of the senate and get a majority of 60, which I believe is the threshold to force votes on things like judge appointments which the Dems have had stalled for several years.The Republicans could lose seats, or the best laid plans of terrorists could end up helping Bush. Poetic justice if you ask me. And what would they do with 60 seats that they aren't doing now? Bush has only had to veto once. He has gotten everything he wanted except when members of his own party didn't want it such as his Supreme Court nominee. The Democrats have been no serious challenge for 6 years. It is the Iraq war going on another 2 or more years that is finally making 60% of the population say "enough." Quote
Riverwind Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 The Republicans could lose seats, or the best laid plans of terrorists could end up helping Bush. Poetic justice if you ask me.I am sure that Bin Ladin and crowd are big supporters of Bush. They need a US who is willing to play the role of bully and bad guy in the Islamic world. A less trigger happy adminstration would provide fewer recruiting opportunities for them. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
sharkman Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 And what would they do with 60 seats that they aren't doing now? Bush has only had to veto once. He has gotten everything he wanted except when members of his own party didn't want it such as his Supreme Court nominee. The Democrats have been no serious challenge for 6 years.It is the Iraq war going on another 2 or more years that is finally making 60% of the population say "enough." I believe they call it a filibuster. Even though the Dems have a minority in the Senate they have been succesful in stopping most of Bush's nominations(dozens) from being voted on for many years, by filibustering. A majority of I believe 60 seats in the senate would force a vote on these nominations. Quote
sharkman Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 The Republicans could lose seats, or the best laid plans of terrorists could end up helping Bush. Poetic justice if you ask me.I am sure that Bin Ladin and crowd are big supporters of Bush. They need a US who is willing to play the role of bully and bad guy in the Islamic world. A less trigger happy adminstration would provide fewer recruiting opportunities for them. I am sure you are wrong. They would much rather have someone in the oval office who is a wet noodle rather than someone who doesn't take sh@t from those who fly planes into buildings. Bin Laden would rather have someone in the UN mold like Bill Clinton who signed a Nuclear treaty with North Korea around '95, paying them much cash to not develop nuclear weapons. And we now know how that turned out. Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 I believe they call it a filibuster. Even though the Dems have a minority in the Senate they have been succesful in stopping most of Bush's nominations(dozens) from being voted on for many years, by filibustering. A majority of I believe 60 seats in the senate would force a vote on these nominations. Bush has had over 200 nominees go through the senate already. According to a recent Patrick Leahy press release at http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200504/042705.html: "[The most recent appointment] is only the second judicial nomination Senate Republicans have been willing to consider all year. There has been no filibuster of judicial nominees this year. Instead, it is the Senate Republican leadership that, through its deliberate inaction, is keeping judgeships unnecessarily vacant for months. " You calling Leahy a liar? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
sharkman Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 Uh, no I don't know who leahy is and if you examine my remarks you will find I did not call him anything. Your link doesn't work so I wasn't able to see what you're talking about. Here's a link from MSNBC that talks about the previous log jam in the Senate that apparently Leahy knows nothing about. The deal they made in that story still left many in "limbo" and preserved filibuster rules. Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 Oops. I think I fixed my link, but yours doesn't seem to work now. Leahy is a Democrat senator from Vermont. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
sharkman Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 Oops. I think I fixed my link, but yours doesn't seem to work now.Leahy is a Democrat senator from Vermont. That's odd, I just tried my link and it worked fine. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Posted August 13, 2006 I believe they call it a filibuster. Even though the Dems have a minority in the Senate they have been succesful in stopping most of Bush's nominations(dozens) from being voted on for many years, by filibustering. A majority of I believe 60 seats in the senate would force a vote on these nominations. When was the last filibuster? And how many have there been during Bush's government? Quote
newbie Posted August 13, 2006 Report Posted August 13, 2006 I believe they call it a filibuster. Even though the Dems have a minority in the Senate they have been succesful in stopping most of Bush's nominations(dozens) from being voted on for many years, by filibustering. A majority of I believe 60 seats in the senate would force a vote on these nominations. When was the last filibuster? And how many have there been during Bush's government? And how many vetoes? Quote
jdobbin Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Posted August 13, 2006 And how many vetoes? That's easy. One. Quote
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