Another reason Poilievre will not win.

[John Johnston]

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

Well well looky here, another non-entity frightened of Poilievre.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

So what?  

Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to say.  Villifying folk who aren't thrilled with what Canada has to offer isn't exactly going to bring them back into the fold, is it?  

The folks behind disinformation campaigns and conspiracy theories sure, but the deluded and misenfranchised not necessarily.  

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

uhhh,,,, that's actually a good thing. 

I understand that you on the left run on hatred and violence and bigotry these days but it's actually better if you can sit down with an opponent and find common ground. 

I get that you don't think like that but lots do. 

[August1991]

4 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

Poilievre? I remember Pierre Trudeau's famous phrase:

"I want to put Quebecers in their place. And their place is in Canada."

Obama should have said the same:

"I want to put blacks in their place. And their place is America."

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"I want to put Albertans in their place. And their place is Canada."

[John Johnston]

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

So what?  

Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to say.  Villifying folk who aren't thrilled with what Canada has to offer isn't exactly going to bring them back into the fold, is it?  

The folks behind disinformation campaigns and conspiracy theories sure, but the deluded and misenfranchised not necessarily.  

 

9 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Canadians shouldn't view those who will vote for Alberta separation as "enemies" and instead offer "hope" to Albertans in order to buttress against the province's secessionist movement.

It show that Milhouse will not stand on anything. Remember PP holding hands with convoy trash and hanging out with Diagolon? He stands for whatever he thinks will win him votes not what any principal. From another leader I might agree with you. 

7 hours ago, Legato said:

Well well looky here, another non-entity frightened of Poilievre.

Nobody is afraid of Milhouse. It's just nobody trusts him. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, John Johnston said:

It show that Milhouse will not stand on anything.

The opposite is true. The shows that he stands on the side of the United Canada instead of letting pettiness divide us. The United Canada is a moral stance.

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Remember PP holding hands with convoy trash and hanging out with Diagolon? He stands for whatever he thinks will win him votes not what any principal. From another leader I might agree with you. 

You literally just proved yourself wrong. Yes, he absolutely did go and talk with people he disagrees with. And that's what he suggesting we do now. A good leader actually talks to people that he disagrees with and tries to find common ground

You are literally saying that in order to have morals you must hate and attack everyone who disagrees with you. That is childish. It makes more sense to meet with people you disagree with and find ways to work with them and bring people together

Just more proof that the left is all about hatred and bigotry these days and thrives on intolerance. You don't get anywhere as a nation by dividing people. You build a nation by bringing people together and finding common ground even when you might disagree on something

Yeash

[Legato]

5 hours ago, John Johnston said:

 

It show that Milhouse will not stand on anything. Remember PP holding hands with convoy trash and hanging out with Diagolon? He stands for whatever he thinks will win him votes not what any principal. From another leader I might agree with you. 

Nobody is afraid of Milhouse. It's just nobody trusts him. 

In September 2022, Jeremy MacKenzie made a video stream where he threatened to sexually assault Poilievre's wife, Anaida Poilievre, referring to it as a "power move". 

This threat prompted a vehement response from Poilievre. He publicly called MacKenzie and his associates "dirtbags" and "losers," and formally requested that the RCMP investigate the threats.

It's eminently obvious you and other weak minded people are afraid of Poilivere.

The simple fact that using the childish response of "Milhouse" speaks volumes.

[John Johnston]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The opposite is true. The shows that he stands on the side of the United Canada instead of letting pettiness divide us. The United Canada is a moral stance.

You literally just proved yourself wrong. Yes, he absolutely did go and talk with people he disagrees with. And that's what he suggesting we do now. A good leader actually talks to people that he disagrees with and tries to find common ground

You are literally saying that in order to have morals you must hate and attack everyone who disagrees with you. That is childish. It makes more sense to meet with people you disagree with and find ways to work with them and bring people together

Just more proof that the left is all about hatred and bigotry these days and thrives on intolerance. You don't get anywhere as a nation by dividing people. You build a nation by bringing people together and finding common ground even when you might disagree on something

Yeash

Milhouse is not well liked, nor well respected. That is on him. Not the Canadian people. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, John Johnston said:

Milhouse is not well liked, nor well respected. That is on him. Not the Canadian people. 

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

[John Johnston]

41 minutes ago, Legato said:

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

 

41 minutes ago, Legato said:

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

 

41 minutes ago, Legato said:

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

 

41 minutes ago, Legato said:

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

 

41 minutes ago, Legato said:

Pierre Poilievre’s rallies attract significantly larger and more energetic crowds than Liberal events, drawing thousands of attendees in cities across Canada compared to smaller, more controlled gatherings for Liberals like Mark Carney.

Stop listening to the CBC and open what is a closed mind.

It's not a glee club. People don't have time to parade at rallies. Most people have jobs and things to do in life. If Milhouse was so great he woulda won. People are not so foolish in Canada that a make over and some mom jeans would change their thinking. 

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[Moonbox]

6 hours ago, John Johnston said:

It show that Milhouse will not stand on anything. Remember PP holding hands with convoy trash and hanging out with Diagolon? He stands for whatever he thinks will win him votes not what any principal.

Yes, but that doesn't mean when he says stuff like this, that it's wrong. 

You can certainly doubt his sincerity and point out how hypocritical and unprincipled he is, but I don't think we should be criticizing him for occasionally saying things that aren't braindead populist fodder.  

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, John Johnston said:

Milhouse is not well liked, nor well respected. That is on him. Not the Canadian people. 

he's well liked and well respected, otherwise you wouldn't feel the Need to come up with childish nicknames for him  

People don't do that that's a rule unless they're afraid of the other person and need to dehumanize them so that they can cope   

It's worth mentioning again but he came within one and a half percent of the same popular vote that carney got. Carney's vote is more efficient but it's not larger in any meaningful way. 

So we'll see what happens

[Legato]

53 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

 

 

 

 

It's not a glee club. People don't have time to parade at rallies. Most people have jobs and things to do in life. If Milhouse was so great he woulda won. People are not so foolish in Canada that a make over and some mom jeans would change their thinking. 

So the 24/7 negative nonsense about Poilievre from the press you watch has obviously sunk into your head

The hatred you show is based upon the palpable fear you also show.

What about Diagolon lies, care to address those.

[Canadaisintrouble]

Alberta needs out of the shitshow Canada has become!

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Canadaisintrouble said:

Alberta needs out of the shitshow Canada has become!

well the question as always is what does 'out' mean?

Total separation into an independent sovering nation?  That would not go well for alberta. They don't have the population or diversity of economy to sustain that. Countries cost a lot of money. If every western province split and created a new country that would barely be big enough and have enough diversity of economy to make a go of it. There is no single province in Canada capable of standing alone as its own country at the moment.

Soo... some sort of Sovereign association? More powers to the province in some form? 

It's challenging to put a good model together, remembering that the feds know whatever Alberta gets, the other provinces will eventually ask for. 

 

[Canadaisintrouble]

Full independence! The Canada from 15 years ago is gone and not coming back. Imagine Canada in another 10-15 years at this pace of decline.  Smaller land locked countries all over the world do just fine, one like Alberta with what's below the ground will thrive. 

[Moonbox]

Thanks Russia/China Man.  

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, Canadaisintrouble said:

Full independence! The Canada from 15 years ago is gone and not coming back. Imagine Canada in another 10-15 years at this pace of decline.  Smaller land locked countries all over the world do just fine, one like Alberta with what's below the ground will thrive. 

Alberta would not survive. It's that simple.

Alberta does not have the economic diversity or population.  And oil is an on again off again thing and it isn't forever. 

I doubt you've considered even a fraction of the costs that you'd suddenly have to bear. \ and the trade agreements you'd suddenly lose. And forget new pipelines. 

It's just not a real thing. It would take ALL of the western provinces together to form a viable new completely independent nation