Aliens sighted 👽 🛸

[paxamericana]

https://aliens.gov/ 

we’ve been lied to! 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:47 PM by paxamericana

[gatomontes99]

Lol...nice

[John Stone]

Logic would tell u that there are an unlimited number of planets in the Universe that could support life as we know it. 

The evolution aboard these spaceships would logically be either ahead, far ahead, or likewise behind, ours.  

Any specie that has evolved to the point that has the technology to  transit the vastness of space would likely have the capability to observe our activity from afar ........ likely see it as comedy hour.😁 

Energy never completely dissipates. 

Picture the RF being emitted since Marconi,  into space - given the proper detection technology, it would be detectible - travelling outward, forever, into space. 

The earth is in fact a beacon - theoretically you could detect and display the earliest t.v. transmissions. 

Of course 'aliens' are real............... the question is whether they have been detected? 

There is more of an argument in favor of their existence than against. 

Would they ALLOW themselves to be observed?

Very doubtful. 

Our specie could not survive the G-Force generated to achieve 'light speed' ............. imagine  the technology required to achieve the speed necessary to transit the universe.🤪

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, John Stone said:

Logic would tell u that there are an unlimited number of planets in the Universe that could support life as we know it. 

The evolution aboard these spaceships would logically be either ahead, far ahead, or likewise behind, ours.  

Any specie that has evolved to the point that has the technology to  transit the vastness of space would likely have the capability to observe our activity from afar ........ likely see it as comedy hour.😁 

Energy never completely dissipates. 

Picture the RF being emitted since Marconi,  into space - given the proper detection technology, it would be detectible - travelling outward, forever, into space. 

The earth is in fact a beacon - theoretically you could detect and display the earliest t.v. transmissions. 

Of course 'aliens' are real............... the question is whether they have been detected? 

There is more of an argument in favor of their existence than against. 

Would they ALLOW themselves to be observed?

Very doubtful. 

Our specie could not survive the G-Force generated to achieve 'light speed' ............. imagine  the technology required to achieve the speed necessary to transit the universe.🤪

Major progress has recently been achieved in warp drive technology.

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Recent breakthroughs have shifted warp drives from pure science fiction to plausible physics. Theoretical models, like those developed by physicist Erik Lentz, demonstrate that warp bubbles can be sustained using conventional positive energy, eliminating the need for impossible "exotic" negative mass. [1]

While practical faster-than-light (FTL) engines remain distant, research has entered an exciting new phase. Key advancements include: [1, 2]

• Positive Energy Models: Recent theoretical frameworks rely on positive energy density, bypassing major physical hurdles and making warp-bubble mechanics mathematically viable in our universe. [1]
• Refined Spacetime Geometry: Recent peer-reviewed studies (building upon Miguel Alcubierre's foundational 1994 concept) have redesigned the warp field's geometry. This splits the spacetime distortion into distinct regions, improving bubble stability and vastly reducing energy requirements. [1, 2]
• Observational Targets: Physicists have proposed that if an alien civilization were to collapse a warp bubble, it would generate distinct gravitational waves. Facilities like LIGO could potentially detect these ripples in the fabric of spacetime, turning space observation into a tool for finding warp-capable tech. [1, 2]
• Small-Scale Experiments: NASA’s advanced propulsion teams (such as those led by Harold "Sonny" White) have been utilizing the White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer to detect microscopic space-bending effects. [1, 2]

 

[paxamericana]

5 hours ago, John Stone said:

Logic would tell u that there are an unlimited number of planets in the Universe that could support life as we know it. 

Don’t forget the fourth dimension, time. Just because Rome became the height of western civilization doesn’t mean it will last long enough to be discovered. And while you sci-fi nerd orgasm over the latest engine on whatever space ship, someone is already planning space pirates.

Edited Friday at 07:00 PM by paxamericana

[John Stone]

17 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Don’t forget the fourth dimension, time. Just because Rome became the height of western civilization doesn’t mean it will last long enough to be discovered. And while you sci-fi nerd orgasm over the latest engine on whatever space ship, someone is already planning space pirates.

............ I generally find so-called Sci-Fi lacks imagination. 😁 

[John Stone]

19 hours ago, robosmith said:

Major progress has recently been achieved in warp drive technology.

 

.......... all above my pay scale - it has been said by those who study this that it is impossible for the specie to understand the universe. 😨

How can something go on forever? 

On the other hand, how could it end?

As far as 'observation' goes we are limited by the range of our detection equipment - which is miniscule in relation to the Universe expanse - infinity? 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:30 PM by John Stone

[Fluffypants]

On 5/29/2026 at 8:16 AM, John Stone said:

Logic would tell u that there are an unlimited number of planets in the Universe that could support life as we know it. 

The evolution aboard these spaceships would logically be either ahead, far ahead, or likewise behind, ours.  

Any specie that has evolved to the point that has the technology to  transit the vastness of space would likely have the capability to observe our activity from afar ........ likely see it as comedy hour.😁 

Energy never completely dissipates. 

Picture the RF being emitted since Marconi,  into space - given the proper detection technology, it would be detectible - travelling outward, forever, into space. 

The earth is in fact a beacon - theoretically you could detect and display the earliest t.v. transmissions. 

Of course 'aliens' are real............... the question is whether they have been detected? 

There is more of an argument in favor of their existence than against. 

Would they ALLOW themselves to be observed?

Very doubtful. 

Our specie could not survive the G-Force generated to achieve 'light speed' ............. imagine  the technology required to achieve the speed necessary to transit the universe.🤪

Speed isn't whats going let us transverse space the cap is way too low to get anywhere meaningful ts all about folding space between 2 points and punching your way through. 

If there were Aliens observing us it would be little more than us observing a primitive society. Honestly they probably wouldn't even bother with us, maybe as a passing curiosity. We aren't any threat to them and we have nothing they want.

We haven't even colonized our own moon let alone even visited other planets personally.

Edited Saturday at 05:11 PM by Fluffypants

[John Stone]

18 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Speed isn't whats going let us transverse space the cap is way too low to get anywhere meaningful ts all about folding space between 2 points and punching your way through. 

If there were Aliens observing us it would be little more than us observing a primitive society. Honestly they probably wouldn't even bother with us, maybe as a passing curiosity. We aren't any threat to them and we have nothing they want.

We haven't even colonized our own moon let alone even visited other planets personally.

........... they're probably constantly running the numbers on the specie's  survival. 

 

[Fluffypants]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

........... they're probably constantly running the numbers on the specie's  survival. 

 

I doubt it, we have this weird self importance of our species. We are some small planet way out of the way they aren't looking at us and judging us. They probably only essentially see us like an ant colony who uses tools. 

[Barquentine]

On 5/29/2026 at 10:16 AM, John Stone said:

Of course 'aliens' are real............... the question is whether they have been detected? 

There is more of an argument in favor of their existence than against.

Yeah, and a roomful of monkeys with typewriters, etc... Get AI to run an experiment on that one - the world would run out of power and water before you even get a JohnnyfPhuckerfaster joke.

Seems like everybody just wants to believe.

[gatomontes99]

On 5/29/2026 at 9:16 AM, John Stone said:

Any specie that has evolved to the point that has the technology to  transit the vastness of space would likely have the capability to observe our activity from afar ........ likely see it as comedy hour.😁 

Do you see this right here? You seem to be hard wired to hate humanity. That likely stems from self hatred. 

If we observed life on another planet, how would we handle it? With curiosity. Why should we expect any civilization outside of our planet to be any different? If they have the mental capacity for logic and science, they will be interested in how our ecosystem developed and how varying forms of life formed and interact with each other. 

They, also, would likely be unwilling to interfere or interact because of the risks involved. They would understand that a disruption, like an outside civilization making contact, could create a hostile reaction. Even if the reaction was not hostile, our planet could contain dangers they do not understand. 

My point is, stop hating on humanity. That hate is more a reflection of your self image than any thing else. 

[John Stone]

22 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Do you see this right here? You seem to be hard wired to hate humanity. That likely stems from self hatred. 

If we observed life on another planet, how would we handle it? With curiosity. Why should we expect any civilization outside of our planet to be any different? If they have the mental capacity for logic and science, they will be interested in how our ecosystem developed and how varying forms of life formed and interact with each other. 

They, also, would likely be unwilling to interfere or interact because of the risks involved. They would understand that a disruption, like an outside civilization making contact, could create a hostile reaction. Even if the reaction was not hostile, our planet could contain dangers they do not understand. 

My point is, stop hating on humanity. That hate is more a reflection of your self image than any thing else. 

 

STRAWMAN.🙄

.......... back to the toolbox with ya. 😁

 

[John Stone]

22 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, and a roomful of monkeys with typewriters, etc... Get AI to run an experiment on that one - the world would run out of power and water before you even get a JohnnyfPhuckerfaster joke.

Seems like everybody just wants to believe.

........... if life emerged once in a universe with an infinite number of planets, it is statistically unlikely to be unique? 

The real question is, 'have they been observed'? 

I'd say there would be no reason for a benign and incredibly advanced specie to reveal themselves. 

Likely, what they are interested re: Universe, are topics we couldn't begin to understand. 

 

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, John Stone said:

........... if life emerged once in a universe with an infinite number of planets, it is statistically unlikely to be unique? 

The real question is, 'have they been observed'? 

I'd say there would be no reason for a benign and incredibly advanced specie to reveal themselves. 

Likely, what they are interested re: Universe, are topics we couldn't begin to understand. 

1. First, is it infinite, or just large? They say it's expanding. Can infinity expand?

2. Have what been observed? Of course there are UFOs. 'Unidentified'! Just because I don't know what it is and someone else says they do does not make them right. That's the fallacy at play here.

And if they were real, why wouldn't they make contact? Such a statistically rare thing as other life in the universe and they wouldn't have our burning curiosity? That is statistically unlikely!

3. Now if I were to throw out a possibility about alien life I'd say we may find some evidence of some molecular beginnings but the odds against that surviving, thriving and evolving would be statistically much larger than sentient aliens existing.

Earth is damned special. Why? Nobody knows.

[User]

23 hours ago, John Stone said:

........... if life emerged once in a universe with an infinite number of planets, it is statistically unlikely to be unique? 

No, you need probability. You are presuming that to make your point here, when we simply do not know. We have a sample size of one of one. 

[John Stone]

22 hours ago, Barquentine said:

1. First, is it infinite, or just large? They say it's expanding. Can infinity expand?

2. Have what been observed? Of course there are UFOs. 'Unidentified'! Just because I don't know what it is and someone else says they do does not make them right. That's the fallacy at play here.

And if they were real, why wouldn't they make contact? Such a statistically rare thing as other life in the universe and they wouldn't have our burning curiosity? That is statistically unlikely!

3. Now if I were to throw out a possibility about alien life I'd say we may find some evidence of some molecular beginnings but the odds against that surviving, thriving and evolving would be statistically much larger than sentient aliens existing.

Earth is damned special. Why? Nobody knows.

Of course the Earth is one of many(??) planets in the Milky Way, suppose u could say that it is unique in the sense that it is the only planet - in the known world where complex life, including our specie, has evolved? In respect it is special ... but only to a minute galaxy? 

I think the term, 'Unidentified' is an accurate description. 

Does not prove the existence.

 

 

 

[John Stone]

21 hours ago, User said:

No, you need probability. You are presuming that to make your point here, when we simply do not know. We have a sample size of one of one. 

Indeed. Given the known Universe, the probability is likely low. 

The unknown  Universe is infinite? 

[John Stone]

23 hours ago, Barquentine said:

1. First, is it infinite, or just large? They say it's expanding. Can infinity expand?

2. Have what been observed? Of course there are UFOs. 'Unidentified'! Just because I don't know what it is and someone else says they do does not make them right. That's the fallacy at play here.

And if they were real, why wouldn't they make contact? Such a statistically rare thing as other life in the universe and they wouldn't have our burning curiosity? That is statistically unlikely!

3. Now if I were to throw out a possibility about alien life I'd say we may find some evidence of some molecular beginnings but the odds against that surviving, thriving and evolving would be statistically much larger than sentient aliens existing.

Earth is damned special. Why? Nobody knows.

Is the Universe infinite?

How could it not be (infinite) .................. on the other hand, how could it be (infinite)?

Earth is special because it sustains life as we know it, within our Galaxy. 

That is it ........ we are only observing within the  limits of our technology ..............  miniscule, when considering 'infinite'. 

 

[User]

4 hours ago, John Stone said:

Indeed. Given the known Universe, the probability is likely low. 

The unknown  Universe is infinite? 

This is a self defeating statement. How can you say something is infinite when it is unknown?

 

[John Stone]

27 minutes ago, User said:

This is a self defeating statement. How can you say something is infinite when it is unknown?

 

The observable universe - the part we can see - is indeed finite at about 92 billion light-years across. We know this because light has had only 14 billion years to travel since the so-called Big Bang. 

That said, the Universe is expanding into 'what'?

Where is the Universe expanding, 'from'? 

Care to tackle that question. 🤪

[User]

13 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The observable universe - the part we can see - is indeed finite at about 92 billion light-years across. We know this because light has had only 14 billion years to travel since the so-called Big Bang. 

That said, the Universe is expanding into 'what'?

Where is the Universe expanding, 'from'? 

Care to tackle that question. 🤪

I don't need to tackle that question to point out that your claim about statistics and life elsewhere was silly and wrong. 

[John Stone]

17 minutes ago, User said:

I don't need to tackle that question to point out that your claim about statistics and life elsewhere was silly and wrong. 

 

Ur reply  lacks any substance, bro. 

 

 

[User]

3 minutes ago, John Stone said:

 

Ur reply  lacks any substance, bro. 

 

 

So did your assertion about life elsewhere. 

[CdnFox]

On 5/29/2026 at 6:16 AM, John Stone said:

Logic would tell u that there are an unlimited number of planets in the Universe that could support life as we know it. 

 

Logic doesn't tell us that nor does science. And for those who think otherwise please read up on the Fermi paradox

The best information we have now is that the universe is not unlimited but is finite. We're still unsure of the exact conditions that are necessary to produce life but we are certain the most worlds that we can detect are uncapable of sustaining life. Therefore there is a finite number of worlds that can produce life and that number may be a lot smaller than we thought.

Additionally while they may support life there's no guarantee that they will support or eventually lead to intelligent life as we know it. Therefore it would not reasonably be possible to say that "logically" they are comparable to us in any respect, never mind 'ahead or behind'. 

I don't think you understand what logic is. You certainly don't understand what science is