paxamericana Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 (edited) Domestic jet fuel cost has remained relatively stable due to high Us production and largely insulated from the global price shock. The same can be applied to petrol derived fuel should America choose to limit international oil exports. No doubt in a national emergency such a scenario would occur. Fuel are bulk cargo and requires large tanker to transport, if the open ocean becomes no man’s sea, rapid de-industrialization would be the norm. That is for any country that cannot source its own oil Edited May 10 by paxamericana Quote
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 (edited) 11 hours ago, paxamericana said: Domestic jet fuel cost has remained relatively stable due to high Us production and largely insulated from the global price shock. The same can be applied to petrol derived fuel should America choose to limit international oil exports. No doubt in a national emergency such a scenario would occur. Fuel are bulk cargo and requires large tanker to transport, if the open ocean becomes no man’s sea, rapid de-industrialization would be the norm. That is for any country that cannot source its own oil Indeed, the U.S. is a net exporter of crude and petroleum products but it is not a net exporter of (desirable?) crude oil - big difference. In 2025 the U.S. imported 6.2 million barrels of crude oil / day but exported 4 million barrels / day of crude. Domestically, the U.S. produces ‘light and sweet’ crude, U.S. refineries aren’t ‘tooled’ to process it – the refineries are tooled for ‘heavy sour’ crude from the middle east / Canada. Ergo, pipelines? Retooling the refineries is economically a non-starter and would take years to complete. The mismatch keeps the U.S. from simply using its own crude production to serve all domestic needs. And that is why the price at the pump keep rising and will continue to rise as long as supply is limited. Prices rise, inflation surges ......... Edited May 10 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 Thermal solar plant / China China is the leader, by far, in the development of green energy and E.V. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 2 hours ago, John Stone said: Thermal solar plant / China China is the leader, by far, in the development of green energy and E.V. We built one in Vegas. It desimated monarch butterflies and was inefficient so they are shutting it down. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 32 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: We built one in Vegas. It desimated monarch butterflies and was inefficient so they are shutting it down. .............maybe China can build one that works for ya? 😁 1 1 Quote
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 The 2027 budget request for NASA cuts funding by 23 percent and reduces the Science Mission Directorate by 46 percent, down to $3.9 billion. To put those figures in context, the first week of the US's war against Iran cost well over $10 billion Meanwhile, a spokesman for China's crewed space programme has stated that China was 'on track' to launch it lunar mission by 2030. Artemis III, is scheduled to send the first U.S. astronauts to the lunar surface since Apollo 17 / 1972. Scheduled to launch in 2027. This is going to be interesting. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 1 hour ago, John Stone said: .............maybe China can build one that works for ya? 😁 Not if they pay market wages rather than using slave labor. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
herbie Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 What weirdo posts a graph on how badly US policy is affecting their own pockets as proof of 'energy dominance'? How about posting a graph of how much oil is being traded in yuan or euros to accompany it as 'proof' too? Proof of THE END of US dominance os a better headline to use. 1 Quote
User Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 6 hours ago, John Stone said: Thermal solar plant / China China is the leader, by far, in the development of green energy and E.V. They are also, by far, the leader in the production of new coal plants... 1 Quote
User Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 3 hours ago, John Stone said: .............maybe China can build one that works for ya? 😁 It is not a matter of working. They are highly expensive and inefficient. China is a state-controlled communist party operation willing to eat those costs. Quote
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 23 minutes ago, User said: It is not a matter of working. They are highly expensive and inefficient. China is a state-controlled communist party operation willing to eat those costs. re: They are highly expensive and inefficient I think that's what they told the Wright Bros. about the airplane. 😁 WWI Generals re: automatic weapons? Quote
User Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 Just now, John Stone said: re: They are highly expensive and inefficient I think that's what they told the Wright Bros. about the airplane. 😁 WWI Generals re: automatic weapons? Who is they and what exactly did they say? Just another one of your brain-in-a-blender posts... Quote
John Stone Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 14 minutes ago, User said: Who is they and what exactly did they say? Just another one of your brain-in-a-blender posts... ........I feel charitable today...😄 Field Marchal Sir Douglas Haig was the C-n-C of the BEF during WWI Haig is quoted as saying machine guns were overrated during WWI, especially against mounted calvary, and criticized tactics that relied heavily on automatic gunfire rather than infantry assaults. Haig is also quoted as saying similar re: aircraft – overrated. Haig is the design genius of the Battle of the Somme – 1 million casualties in 4 months. BEF? ‘Lions led by donkeys’ / German The point is, technology waits for no man. Quote
User Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 1 hour ago, John Stone said: ........I feel charitable today...😄 Field Marchal Sir Douglas Haig was the C-n-C of the BEF during WWI Haig is quoted as saying machine guns were overrated during WWI, especially against mounted calvary, and criticized tactics that relied heavily on automatic gunfire rather than infantry assaults. Haig is also quoted as saying similar re: aircraft – overrated. Haig is the design genius of the Battle of the Somme – 1 million casualties in 4 months. BEF? ‘Lions led by donkeys’ / German The point is, technology waits for no man. The point is, this has nothing to do with anything I said. Quote
Legato Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 1 hour ago, John Stone said: The point is, technology waits for no man. but without man technology is a non starter, so who wins. Quote
John Stone Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 13 hours ago, Legato said: but without man technology is a non starter, so who wins. nature. Quote
John Stone Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 13 hours ago, User said: The point is, this has nothing to do with anything I said. re: They are highly expensive and inefficient Haig was anachronistic, dismissive of technology. Quote
User Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, John Stone said: re: They are highly expensive and inefficient Haig was anachronistic, dismissive of technology. Which has what to do with me or what I said? Quote
Legato Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 2 hours ago, John Stone said: nature. So mans attempt to change the climate is moot. Quote
John Stone Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 6 minutes ago, Legato said: So mans attempt to change the climate is moot. there can be no technology without man. If technology is responsible for climate change then man is to blame. A coal fired generator is an example of technology. Quote
John Stone Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, User said: Which has what to do with me or what I said? I don't mind an individual thinking slowly; I mind them publishing faster than they think. 😁 Quote
Legato Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: there can be no technology without man. If technology is responsible for climate change then man is to blame. A coal fired generator is an example of technology. But it doesn't wait for man. So moot. Quote
User Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 24 minutes ago, John Stone said: I don't mind an individual thinking slowly; I mind them publishing faster than they think. 😁 Another brain in a blender post. Quote
John Stone Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legato said: But it doesn't wait for man. So moot. It (technology) is dependent on man .......... whether 'man' accepts it (technology) as fact is moot. 😁 It is a fact that solar panels are the most effective form of solar energy. It is a fact that solar panels are cost-effective. Whether u accept the fact is moot. Edited May 11 by John Stone Quote
User Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 13 minutes ago, John Stone said: It (technology) is dependent on man .......... whether 'man' accepts it (technology) as fact is moot. 😁 It is a fact that solar panels are the most effective form of solar energy. It is a fact that solar panels are cost-effective. Whether u accept the fact is moot. You are conflating solar panels with thermal solar now… It is not cost effective. They are not the most effective forms of solar energy. Quote
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