Goober National Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 Strait of Hormuz remains closed. USA is now maneuvering to control it themselves. How will it play out from here? The US will overwhelm forces that present a threat along the straight. Take Kharg Island. Blow up Iranian bridges and power plants. Blow up the reactors. In the meantime, many countries are sending their oil tankers to the US, to buy the Yankee oil to make up for their deficit. Russia stuck in the toilet. China not in the fight, but they are supplying the enemy with weapons. Trump, USA will control the oil. Checkmate. Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 hours ago, Goober National said: Strait of Hormuz remains closed. USA is now maneuvering to control it themselves. How will it play out from here? The US will overwhelm forces that present a threat along the straight. Take Kharg Island. Blow up Iranian bridges and power plants. Blow up the reactors. In the meantime, many countries are sending their oil tankers to the US, to buy the Yankee oil to make up for their deficit. Russia stuck in the toilet. China not in the fight, but they are supplying the enemy with weapons. Trump, USA will control the oil. Checkmate. Supposedly the USN is going to blockade the north/south approaches to the Strait. Not sure how that will play with China - they tried that with Cuba and Russian tankers gave them the finger. Risky political play if the adults force the issue. The priority needs to be the Strait ............ it calls for an immediate remedy. The nuke thing? Negotiation. Quote
herbie Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 "Control" ? If you're thinking countries, the ones stupid enough to fight over a dying horse. Quote
August1991 Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 On 4/12/2026 at 9:29 AM, Goober National said: Strait of Hormuz remains closed. USA is now maneuvering to control it themselves. How will it play out from here? ... In Christian protestant church pews, there were benchmarks: where to sit. There are two world oil price benchmarks: Brent and WTI. Watch them. Quote
John Stone Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, August1991 said: In Christian protestant church pews, there were benchmarks: where to sit. There are two world oil price benchmarks: Brent and WTI. Watch them. Power rules the world, always has ............... in a democracy it's nice to control the court for endorsement of action ...... that would be the U.N. .......... in an autocracy this isn't a great concern necessarily. Edited April 14 by John Stone Quote
paxamericana Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) You all just needed a reminder of who is the World's Super Power. Iran's Navy was on the bottom of the ocean in the first 48 hour. Never forget, the US military has the ability to put at risk ANY target. You seem to think China and Russia is beyond American reach. I can assure you, that's fake news. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Ukraine, these are just opening acts. There won't be much of a China or Russia by the end of this decade, not as a meaningful power or even regional. I would advise against an elbows up approach to your American relations, its not wise. Edited April 14 by paxamericana Quote
John Stone Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 4 hours ago, paxamericana said: You all just needed a reminder of who is the World's Super Power. Iran's Navy was on the bottom of the ocean in the first 48 hour. Never forget, the US military has the ability to put at risk ANY target. You seem to think China and Russia is beyond American reach. I can assure you, that's fake news. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Ukraine, these are just opening acts. There won't be much of a China or Russia by the end of this decade, not as a meaningful power or even regional. I would advise against an elbows up approach to your American relations, its not wise. Whom the gods would destroy, they first make proud? Quote
paxamericana Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Stone said: proud that's an entirely wrong misconception of America. Our premise is to be left alone. The rest of the world would go to shit and create problem for us if we left you all to your own devices. You think Americans like paying for a world police force!? We do not! The last two time we left you all alone you all can't help but drag us into your bull sh!t. You know how totem poles work right, the one on top look down and see nothing but sh!theads, and the one at the bottom see nothing but as$holes. Edited April 14 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 7 hours ago, paxamericana said: You all just needed a reminder of who is the World's Super Power. Iran's Navy was on the bottom of the ocean in the first 48 hour. Never forget, the US military has the ability to put at risk ANY target. You seem to think China and Russia is beyond American reach. I can assure you, that's fake news. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Ukraine, these are just opening acts. There won't be much of a China or Russia by the end of this decade, not as a meaningful power or even regional. I would advise against an elbows up approach to your American relations, its not wise. Congrats GI Joe... but rather than telling us, you should probably remind Iran that you're the badass on the block. They don't seem to be too concerned. China and Russia, they're just watching with amusement... Sometimes an elbowing penalty is well worth the time in the box. Keep your head up... 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Sometimes an elbowing penalty is well worth the time in the box You’re on time out from NAFTA until you had time to think about your attitude Canada! Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 30 minutes ago, paxamericana said: You’re on time out from NAFTA until you had time to think about your attitude Canada! Lol... meet you in the hallway to the dressing rooms 👊 Speaking of NAFTA/CUSMA.... I hear Greer a lot, what has happened to Nutlicks. Is he another one on the outs with Trump...? Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 (edited) 15 hours ago, paxamericana said: that's an entirely wrong misconception of America. Our premise is to be left alone. The rest of the world would go to shit and create problem for us if we left you all to your own devices. You think Americans like paying for a world police force!? We do not! The last two time we left you all alone you all can't help but drag us into your bull sh!t. You know how totem poles work right, the one on top look down and see nothing but sh!theads, and the one at the bottom see nothing but as$holes. Korean War (1950 – TBD) Vietnam War (1955 – 1975) Cuban Missile Crisis (1962) Gulf War (1990-91) Kosovo War (1999) Afghan War (2001- 2021) Iraq War (2003 – 2011) ............. some police force, a legacy of hegemony, mismanagement, attempted geo-conquest, global unrest, political incompetence, political incompetence, petro dollar ................ increasingly the World is saying that the juice is not worth the squeeze. The World, today, is a product of U.S ambitions. God Save the Troops (despite Trump's blasphemy) Europe can stand on it's own - curious to see if the U.S. can remain a global power without Europe's political, economic, military (bases), support. doubtful. Careful what u wish for, dude. There are (3) U.S. political ideologies; Republican, Democrat, MAGA .............. i could never support MAGA, I'm far too independent in thought ........... how about u? Edited April 15 by John Stone Quote
Goober National Posted April 16 Author Report Posted April 16 On 4/12/2026 at 1:11 PM, John Stone said: Supposedly the USN is going to blockade the north/south approaches to the Strait. Not sure how that will play with China - they tried that with Cuba and Russian tankers gave them the finger. Risky political play if the adults force the issue. The priority needs to be the Strait ............ it calls for an immediate remedy. The nuke thing? Negotiation. China now buy oyo flom US... Quote
paxamericana Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 13 hours ago, John Stone said: Korean War (1950 – TBD) Vietnam War (1955 – 1975) Cuban Missile Crisis (1962) Gulf War (1990-91) Kosovo War (1999) Afghan War (2001- 2021) Iraq War (2003 – 2011) ............. some police force, a legacy of hegemony, mismanagement, attempted geo-conquest, global unrest, political incompetence, political incompetence, petro dollar ................ increasingly the World is saying that the juice is not worth the squeeze. The World, today, is a product of U.S ambitions. God Save the Troops (despite Trump's blasphemy) Europe can stand on it's own - curious to see if the U.S. can remain a global power without Europe's political, economic, military (bases), support. doubtful. Careful what u wish for, dude. There are (3) U.S. political ideologies; Republican, Democrat, MAGA .............. i could never support MAGA, I'm far too independent in thought ........... how about u? Vietnam really is to help out the French. The other wars were out of strategic interest or retaliation. Europe is not energy independent so there’s that. Quote
John Stone Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, paxamericana said: Vietnam really is to help out the French. The other wars were out of strategic interest or retaliation. Europe is not energy independent so there’s that. Vietnam was most definitely NOT to 'help' out France' colonial ambitions in Indochina Vietnam was a civil war, the US weighed in to (as they saw it) stop the spread of Communist ideology. Edited April 16 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 12 hours ago, Goober National said: China now buy oyo flom US... ............... almost exclusively, Iran supplied China with energy. It is a sweet deal with Iran providing it at discount - in return China was 'big' brother strategically. China is depleting its stockpiled reserves ..........tic tok ........... the situation in the ME could become a crisis (US/China) China has overtaken the U.S. as Canada’s top oil buyer, with up to 70% of crude shipments from British Columbia now heading to Chinese ports. Quote
paxamericana Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, John Stone said: stop the spread of Communist ideology That's the lie. The truth is more like maintaining the Alliance network of protection because we promised to do so in the post world war II order. It was a test of the alliance. The implication for breaking the promise had more consequences than just French Indochina. 25 minutes ago, John Stone said: China is depleting its stockpiled reserves ..........tic tok ........... the situation in the ME could become a crisis That's no accident, that's intentional. Any reserve that they can deplete means China can't jump on Taiwan as readily. 23 minutes ago, John Stone said: China has overtaken the U.S. as Canada’s top oil buyer, with up to 70% of crude shipments from British Columbia now heading to Chinese ports. Canadian oil flow when the Americans says it does. That's how its gona be cannuck. Quote
John Stone Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, paxamericana said: That's the lie. The truth is more like maintaining the Alliance network of protection because we promised to do so in the post world war II order. It was a test of the alliance. The implication for breaking the promise had more consequences than just French Indochina. That's no accident, that's intentional. Any reserve that they can deplete means China can't jump on Taiwan as readily. Canadian oil flow when the Americans says it does. That's how its gona be cannuck. The problem with assumptions is we believe they are truth.😄 Quote
Goober National Posted April 16 Author Report Posted April 16 9 hours ago, paxamericana said: Canadian oil flow when the Americans says it does. That's how its gona be cannuck. Thanks. I could handle that. Oppression under America far better than under the sinoese. America, think Coca Cola. China? Toxic rotten-fish soda. With extra scales. So please, somebody stop us before there is no more Canada left to protect. Quote
Goddess Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 36 minutes ago, Goober National said: Thanks. I could handle that. Oppression under America far better than under the sinoese. America, think Coca Cola. China? Toxic rotten-fish soda. With extra scales. So please, somebody stop us before there is no more Canada left to protect. I'm sure our new Chinese overlords will be benevolent. Plus, we're ok with slave labor encampments in Canada now. No problem! Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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