Flynn gets nice settlement from the feds for being a target of the Russia hoax

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Every patriot in America loves Trump.

NO Canucks get to decide who is a patriot in America, esp NOT the IGNORANT CLASSLESS ones LIKE YOU.

AND the ones like you,  who are SO THOROUGHLY CONNED by Trump.

Trump's CORRUPTION makes Nixon look like a choir boy.

[LinkSoul60]

8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Uh, no, we are talking about the FBI blackmailing Flynn. 

uh, yes...  Mueller was investigated during Trump's presidency.  Not Obama's, not Biden's, not Clinton's....Trump's.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...From Barry on down, they all belong in jail.

Too bad for you that your Canuck OPINIONS mean NOTHING HERE, dropout.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden was the presuhhdolt for 4 years and what did he do aside from lawfare against Trump and sit on the Epstein file?

Oh, I know: helped Somalis commit fraud. 

[gatomontes99]

32 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

uh, yes...  Mueller was investigated during Trump's presidency.  Not Obama's, not Biden's, not Clinton's....Trump's.

We are talking about the pre-Trump post election period where he was known as President Elect Trump. Obama was still President and Biden was still VP. 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden was the presuhhdolt for 4 years and what did he do aside from lawfare against Trump and sit on the Epstein file?

I didn't think Biden was there strongest president but what he had that Trump never will is class, morals and decency.

What did he do.... managed the pandemic and mess that Trump left him, doubled the number of people who had access to affordable healthcare, and improved the economy with 2.23M jobs created.  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I didn't think Biden was there strongest president but what he had that Trump never will is class, morals and decency.

Just because Biden was stupid and useless doesn't mean that he had class or morals. He was a slimy liar, and that is the opposite of having class and morals.

And I think that you're forgetting about his hateful screed in Philadelphia, which was anything but classy. 

Then he would regularly rant that "Trump's presidency lost 12M jobs in his last year", and then pretend that his presidency was the only reason why 12M jobs suddenly came back. If you are intelligent to know anything about covid, and when it happened, you would know that Biden was just lying through his teeth every time he did that. It's not classy, and it displays very low morality. 

Biden was as grotesque as he was useless. 

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I didn't think Biden was there strongest president but what he had that Trump never will is class, morals and decency.

Lmao. Dude threatened to fight people he disagreed with, sold the powers of his office to foreign interests and helped Obama attempt to overthrow a fair election. Where in the world do you get your assesment? 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Just because Biden was stupid and useless doesn't mean that he had class or morals. He was a slimy liar, and that is the opposite of having class and morals.

No one made a list of 30,000+ lies told by Biden because they didn't exist. That was TRUMP!  LMAO

And you STILL haven't proven ANY OF THEM TRUE.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one made a list of 30,000+ lies told by Biden because they didn't exist. That was TRUMP!  LMAO

And you STILL haven't proven ANY OF THEM TRUE.

Stop regurgitating WashPo drivel, robobigot. 

You need to go revisit that WashPo story and flip every "Trump lied because he said he didn't collude with Russia" lie into the "Dems, MSM and FBI slander, lies and crimes" column. 

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop regurgitating WashPo drivel, robobigot. 

Everyone knows it's not drivel except you, Canuck. Unlike FOS LIES, Wapo has a stellar reputation.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

You need to go revisit that WashPo story and flip every "Trump lied because he said he didn't collude with Russia" lie into the "Dems, MSM and FBI slander, lies and crimes" column. 

Trump's CAMPAIGN colluded with Russian AGENTS. Esp Kilimnik and Deripaska. And Mueller indicted Russia's Internet Research Agency OFFICERS for election interference to help Trump.

You don't even know that Putin SAID he wanted Trump to win on National TV.

 

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Just because Biden was stupid and useless doesn't mean that he had class or morals. He was a slimy liar, and that is the opposite of having class and morals.

And I think that you're forgetting about his hateful screed in Philadelphia, which was anything but classy. 

Then he would regularly rant that "Trump's presidency lost 12M jobs in his last year", and then pretend that his presidency was the only reason why 12M jobs suddenly came back. If you are intelligent to know anything about covid, and when it happened, you would know that Biden was just lying through his teeth every time he did that. It's not classy, and it displays very low morality. 

Biden was as grotesque as he was useless. 

But other than that, he did see 2.23M jobs created during his term.  The new guy seems to lie a lot too...

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

But other than that, he did see 2.23M jobs created during his term.  The new guy seems to lie a lot too...

Other than the fact that he just told huge, blatant lies? 

Remember that your point was that he was somehow classy and had morals... FYI nothing could be further from the truth.

He was a liar and a hatemonger. Just an extremely despicable person. 

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Other than the fact that he just told huge, blatant lies? 

Remember that your point was that he was somehow classy and had morals... FYI nothing could be further from the truth.

He was a liar and a hatemonger. Just an extremely despicable person. 

If you had a half a brain you would find the humour in your response....

Okay, maybe Biden did lie but are you trying to say that your orange idol doesn't?   The guy has the art of lying down to a science.

Maybe Biden was also a hate monger but he sure was quiet about it.  Your orange idol, not so much and seems to be quite proud that he's turned the DOJ into his personal retribution department.

How naive and gullible can you be?

[John Johnston]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What would be the point? You're obviously incapable of learning.

Lol. Strike a nerve did I?

[John Johnston]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

NO Canucks get to decide who is a patriot in America, esp NOT the IGNORANT CLASSLESS ones LIKE YOU.

AND the ones like you,  who are SO THOROUGHLY CONNED by Trump.

Trump's CORRUPTION makes Nixon look like a choir boy.

Wrong. As longer as America wants run around and cause problems for every other country and run around lulling this world policeman bullshit Canadians do have a say in America's crap. If America starts to mind it's on business and grow up a bit maybe everybody else would not have something to say. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

If you had a half a brain you would find the humour in your response....Okay, maybe Biden did lie but are you trying to say that your orange idol doesn't?  

Let's agree what "lying" means... 

There are lots of different forms of lying, some far worse than others. And then there's saying something that's false, which you believed to be true, and that is actually not lying at all.

When you said that Biden was classy, you weren't necessarily lying, and I just proved that you were wrong. And that's an extremely important distinction imo. Being wrong is nothing at all like lying. We are all gonna be wrong at some point, but not everyone is going to lie, because it's a conscious choice. 

But even within the realm of actual lying, sometimes we lie to make other people feel good, which is generally considered to be good. 

Then there are things like minimization/exaggeration that are low-lvl forms of actual lying, omission which is a serious lie, bold-faced lies which means saying something that is directly the opposite of the truth, and even worse is fabrication, where you invent a story and tell it to someone. 

Compounding the severity of the above lies, is the matter of whether or not they are "material" lies. Are they lies about something important, like your health, or are they about something trivial, like "whether or not there was a light drizzle for 15 seconds out of 17 minutes". 

The grand-daddy of all forms of lying is slander. A malicious lie, used to wrongfully undermine or even incriminate another person.

So when we get to the topic of "lying", it's never a 1 v 1 comparison. "You said it was warm out but I had to wear pants and a light jacket" is not the same as "You said that he molested a child and you just made that up."

You could make the case that 1,000 minor 'lies' are still less serious than one really nasty whopper. And our justice system is a proof of that. You could go to jail or be fined hundreds of millions of dollars for one really bad lie, but you can lie about insignificant things every day and a judge won't even listen to a complaint about that. 

SERIOUS LIES:

Leftists tell SERIOUS lies, constantly. For example, it's a serious lie to say that someone r4ped someone when they didn't. 

Eg, you and I both KNOW that Trump never r4ped E J Caroll, even according to the details of her own version of the story. The story from her own book goes like this:

• he saw her out walking in front of Bergdorf's wearing 4" stilettos, guessed that she was a floozy (correctly, it turns out), made a really crass sexual overture ("wanna model lingerie for me? I'm looking for a gift for my wife.") which she went along with to the extent of taking some lingerie to the changeroom with him, she let him come into the changeroom with her without a complaint (she just said "he came in and closed the door behind him"), and he pushed her against the wall and kissed her and she giggled, then he stuck his fingers in her cooter and she giggled again, and then as soon as she pushed him away with one arm he let her go. That is her story, and that is not even close to being a r4pe. It's debatable if she was even disrespected. Her own version of the story contains layer upon layer of her own implied consent, and then at her first sign of objection, the incident ended. He is a much stronger person, and she was in 4" heels, and she pushed him away with 1 arm... 

Now, some people say that he r4ped her out of ignorance: they were lied to themselves and they just passed on what they heard, mainly because they really wanted to believe it.

But TBH, can you ever really perpetuate an accusation that serious without at least looking into it?

(Just added in an edit: Furthermore, it's a really serious "lie by omission" to tell that story without mentioning the parts where her own actions display consent. "He followed her into the changeroom, threw her against the wall, and stuck his fingers into her cooter" is quite different from the story SHE herself described. It's like two opposite versions of one story.)  

In any event, anyone who has been exposed to all the information that I just wrote there, can never reasonably accuse Trump of r4pe in that scenario again without being labelled "liar", because now they have been exposed to the truth, at which point they need to confirm the details of the story before they continue with the r4pe accusation. 

Now, there are even lawyers accusing Trump of r4pe, and lawyers fully understand what implied consent means. No one in North America passed their bar exam without knowing that, just like you can't pass a driving test without knowing where the signal light is.  

Do members of the MSM know? Absolutely. They even have legal teams to spell it out for them. So they know.  

So... Every. Single. Time. they bring up the allegation, and give the r4pe accusation credibility, they are engaging in deceit. Even if they don't actually say that "he's a r4pist" themselves, they are engaging in deceit by quoting. 

So, the E J Caroll lie was huge, and repeated constantly by hundreds of thousands of leftists, if not millions. And mind you, that is even with me just taking E J Caroll at her word, 100%. That's with me assuming that every single word and every single suggestion in her story was 100.00% accurate. I'll type this slowly: if her whole story (say "her whole story" with a Chinese accent and it makes sense) was 100.00% true, she was not r4ped. Period. 

 

Bottom line: What lie has Trump ever told that's a serious as a false r4pe allegation? That's a daily occurrence from left4rds. But you just name 1 Trump lie that's that serious and we will go from there. 

Edited March 27 by WestCanMan

[LinkSoul60]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Let's agree what "lying" means... 

By definition 'Lying' means making an intentionally untrue statement.  Your idol does that a dozen times a day...

You can type out another 5 pages, it doesn't matter.... the list of Trump's lies are never ending and easily validated.  Fortunately for him he's found a following of naive and gullible people like you that believe him.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, John Johnston said:

Lol. Strike a nerve did I?

If by that you mean that you were being an annoying little dweeb, then yeah. But I think that's your shtick. 

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

By definition 'Lying' means making an intentionally untrue statement.  Your idol does that a dozen times a day...

You can type out another 5 pages, it doesn't matter.... the list of Trump's lies are never ending and easily validated.  Fortunately for him he's found a following of naive and gullible people like you that believe him.

Bottom line: What lie has Trump ever told that's a serious as a false r4pe allegation? That's a daily occurrence from left4rds. But you just name 1 Trump lie that's that serious and we will go from there. 

[LinkSoul60]

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Bottom line: What lie has Trump ever told that's a serious as a false r4pe allegation? That's a daily occurrence from left4rds. But you just name 1 Trump lie that's that serious and we will go from there. 

Lol...  so you agree then that your idol is a serial lier.  The logical questions would be how do you know when he's telling the truth, and how/why do you idolize someone with the amount of character flaws this guy has, but those would be tough to answer...

It's non-stop so I can't keep up with it....  A simple "Trump's lies' google search has this and countless other pages you that you can look to see those for yourself, which I guess you're not interested in doing.  Below is just from his year-end presidential address;

 

But above all, the Republican president did what he always does: He lied uncontrollably. In fact, his speech was so littered with brazen falsehoods that it was rather easy to come up with a top 10 list.

#10: “Already, I’ve secured a record-breaking $18 trillion of investment into the United States.” It’d be great if that were true, but it’s not.

#9: “Our country was being invaded by an army of 25 million people.” That total wasn’t even close to being true.

#8: “I was elected in a landslide.” No, he wasn’t.

#7: “The price of a Thanksgiving turkey was down 33% compared to the Biden last year.” Is he still peddling this nonsense? Evidently, yes, though it’s still not true.

#6: Trump said the Republicans’ “One Big Beautiful Bill” passed this year included, among other things, “no tax on Social Security.” That might sound nice, but that wasn’t actually a part of the far-right package.

#5: “When I took office, inflation was the worst in 48 years, and some would say in the history of our country.” Trump says this all the time, but it’s demonstrably false.

#4: “I’ve … settled eight wars in 10 months.” I get the sense that he’s convinced himself that this happened, but it hasn’t, no matter how many times he repeats the line.

#3: “Gasoline is now under $2.50 a gallon into much of the country. In some states, it, by the way, just hit $1.99 a gallon.” This is a weird thing to lie about, since consumers know better, but for the record, this obviously wasn’t true.

#2: “The price of eggs is down 82% since March, and everything else is falling rapidly.” The president would very likely be more popular if this were true, but it’s not.

#1: “I negotiated directly with the drug companies and foreign nations, which were taking advantage of our country for many decades, to slash prices on drugs and pharmaceuticals by as much as 400%, 500% and even 600%.” This whopper claimed the top spot for me, because on top of the absurdity of the lie, one has to layer the fact this guy still doesn’t understand how numbers work.

I could keep going. In the same speech, for example, Trump said he’d restored international respect for the United States, which is the opposite of what actually happened. Before that, the incumbent president insisted that during Joe Biden’s presidency, there was “crime at record levels, with law enforcement and words such as that just absolutely forbidden.” Both of these two claims were outrageously wrong.

Indeed, I’m honestly not sure which is the greater challenge: chronicling all of Trump’s lies from his end-of-year speech or trying to find a claim in the remarks that was true.

Either way, that the president found it necessary to lie incessantly throughout his year-end address speaks volumes about just how awful the first year of his second term has been.

 

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I didn't think Biden was there strongest president but what he had that Trump never will is class, morals and decency.

What did he do.... managed the pandemic and mess that Trump left him, doubled the number of people who had access to affordable healthcare, and improved the economy with 2.23M jobs created.  

Ya...he expanded and created bureaucracies.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Other than the fact that he just told huge, blatant lies? 

Remember that your point was that he was somehow classy and had morals... FYI nothing could be further from the truth.

He was a liar and a hatemonger. Just an extremely despicable person. 

NO ONE has ever beat Trump in ^this regard. But you continually TRY and FAIL to defend HIM DOING ^THIS.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

If you had a half a brain you would find the humour in your response....

Okay, maybe Biden did lie but are you trying to say that your orange idol doesn't?   The guy has the art of lying down to a science.

Trump doesn't know shit about science. He DOES know how to LIE PROLIFICALLY.

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Maybe Biden was also a hate monger but he sure was quiet about it.  Your orange idol, not so much and seems to be quite proud that he's turned the DOJ into his personal retribution department.

How naive and gullible can you be?

VERY MUCH.

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...he expanded and created bureaucracies.

EMPTY ^CLAIMS = BUPKIS. LMAO

[LinkSoul60]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...he expanded and created bureaucracies.

He also created 2.23M jobs...