User Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: "If homosexuality isnt natural, why did god make gay animals?" Yeah, i'm pretty sure he just did it for the LOL's. Also the stupidity of both saying there is no god, talking about all the gods, but then making an argument about god… 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 41 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiEoZ6EhsiTAxUEIUQIHWTuPMQQo7QBegQIGhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMFOVtWgKznc&usg=AOvVaw2m-_eGZ46s-vFuTEbwTXLq&opi=89978449 Family photos? 20 minutes ago, User said: Also the stupidity of both saying there is no god, talking about all the gods, but then making an argument about god… Well as you know a fact or opinion both does and does not exist at the same time in relation to whether or not they think it benefits their argument. They're imbeciles who think facts are fluid and superimposed. Schrodinger's twat. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 30 Author Report Posted March 30 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Family photos? Well as you know a fact or opinion both does and does not exist at the same time in relation to whether or not they think it benefits their argument. They're imbeciles who think facts are fluid and superimposed. Schrodinger's twat. If same sex activity is an abomination, why does every creature on the planet engage in it? Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: If same sex activity is an abomination, why does every creature on the planet engage in it? I've never said it's an abomination. You would have to take that up with those who make that assertion. However it is worth noting that some behavior is still considered an abomination despite it's being prevalent in nature. That would include things such as murder, cannibalism, rape. All things we consider to be abhorrent based on our chosen moral values but which nature freely supports. So I'm not sure that your argument is in and of itself compelling. I would tend to agree with you that the fact that it occurs repetitively is evidence that it's not unnatural or the like, but humans have a weird way of choosing what they consider to be abhorrent were an abomination independent of strictly natural arguments Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 30 Author Report Posted March 30 43 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I've never said it's an abomination. You would have to take that up with those who make that assertion. However it is worth noting that some behavior is still considered an abomination despite it's being prevalent in nature. That would include things such as murder, cannibalism, rape. All things we consider to be abhorrent based on our chosen moral values but which nature freely supports. So I'm not sure that your argument is in and of itself compelling. I would tend to agree with you that the fact that it occurs repetitively is evidence that it's not unnatural or the like, but humans have a weird way of choosing what they consider to be abhorrent were an abomination independent of strictly natural arguments Very true. Religion has a weird way of choosing what's abhorrent. Quote
herbie Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 (edited) 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: abomination despite it's being prevalent in nature. That would include things such as murder, cannibalism, rape. OMG you compare what orifice you prefer to murder, cannibalism and rape? Really! We're all of the age we remember the hypocrisy that while it was okay that Capt. Kirk was running around doinking actual aliens, the controversy was about kissing Uhuru, a black woman. Landing on the Moon while inter-racial marriages were illegal in 16 states... It's 2026 if you're offended by gay people, you're a left over one ot those dinosaurs. Edited March 30 by herbie 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 3 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Very true. Religion has a weird way of choosing what's abhorrent. Humans do. Sometimes religion is involved 3 minutes ago, herbie said: OMG you compare what orifice you prefer to murder, cannibalism and rape? Really! No not really. That's not what I did in the slightest. Once again you prove that your ability to comprehend basic concepts is slightly less than that of a preschooler. Try again you drunk twat. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 I comprehend well that you tried to excuse others ideas with something truly abominable. One is personal belief, the others facts of law. Just as I pointed out outdated laws based on old personal beliefs of the lawmakers. . Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Humans do. Sometimes religion is involved Children arent homo/transphobic racist bigots when young. That shit is taught to them. Parents, Clergy, media.... They learn it. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 5 hours ago, herbie said: I comprehend well that you tried to excuse others ideas with something truly abominable. You don't comprehend anything. You're simply lying to try to make a point you can't make with the truth. I didn't actually excuse anything. Show me where i excused anything Quote One is personal belief, the others facts of law. Irrelevant. Both are common in nature. So saying one is acceptable because it occurs in nature can't be a valid argument unless they all are. And they are not. Quote Just as I pointed out outdated laws based on old personal beliefs of the lawmakers. . No, it's just you demonstrating you're a lying sack of crap who drinks too much. But thanks for playing Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Irrelevant. Both are common in nature. So saying one is acceptable because it occurs in nature can't be a valid argument unless they all are. And they are not. So, heterosexuality isnt acceptable now? Funny. Do you ever "think" about what you're going to post "before" posting it. You Canadian red hats are stuuuuu- pid. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 Just now, CrakHoBarbie said: So, heterosexuality isnt acceptable now? Sure, that's what i said right LOLOL Whenever you're wrong you try to lie your way back to a different argument Whether heterosexuality occurs in nature or not is not relevant to whether or not humans find it acceptable And i would remind you that MANY different groups find it UNACCEPTABLE much of the time. For example, heterosexuality with someone other than your spouse is considered horrible by many people. Heterosexual sex with a child is universally seen as evil. etc etc. So the issue is whether hetero or homosexual behavior is 'abhorrent' or the like to humans has nothing to do with its occurrence in nature. Your particular argument along those lines is simply not a valid argument. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 21 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: If same sex activity is an abomination, why does every creature on the planet engage in it? If Murder is wrong, why do other animals engage in killing each other? If rape is bad, how do animals consent to sex? 1 Quote
User Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 17 hours ago, herbie said: OMG you compare what orifice you prefer to murder, cannibalism and rape? Really! OMG the argument being made here is that if animals do it then it must be OK! Quote
CdnFox Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, User said: OMG the argument being made here is that if animals do it then it must be OK! I think crack hoe is sort of conflating a couple of arguments There are some people in the past who have tried to make the argument that homosexuality isn't "natural". And others have commented that it occurs in nature in more than just humans therefore it must be natural. And to a degree that makes some sense. It does appear to be a naturally occurring phenomenon But she has gotten confused and is trying to conflate that with morality or acceptable human behavior. It occurs in nature therefore it must be morally acceptable to humans. That is insane, as you correctly point out murder rape and child molestation are all naturally occurring phenomenon. That doesn't make that behavior acceptable to humans who have a higher degree of intellectual capacity and the ability to choose. Well most of us do anyway, crackho possibly being the exception Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 16 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Children arent homo/transphobic racist bigots when young. That shit is taught to them. Parents, Clergy, media.... They learn it. Children are not trans… that shit is taught to them. That shit is pushed on them. They learn it. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 2 hours ago, User said: Children are not trans… that shit is taught to them. That shit is pushed on them. They learn it. Produce citations that support your statement. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: But she has gotten confused and is trying to conflate that with morality or acceptable human behavior. It occurs in nature therefore it must be morally acceptable to humans. That is insane, as you correctly point out murder rape and child molestation are all naturally occurring phenomenon. That doesn't make that behavior acceptable to humans who have a higher degree of intellectual capacity and the ability to choose. Well most of us do anyway, crackho possibly being the exception So, when did you choose to be heterosexual? Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 4 hours ago, User said: OMG the argument being made here is that if animals do it then it must be OK! Isn't heterosexuality ok? Sexuality has nothing to do with "murder". Why do you keep attempting to compare it to murder? Quote
User Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 15 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Isn't heterosexuality ok? Sexuality has nothing to do with "murder". Why do you keep attempting to compare it to murder? You keep saying it’s OK because animals do it. It’s the foundation of the logic of your argument. Animals do a lot of things. This is why I keep pointing out the stupidity of your conflating human behavior and reasoning with what animals do. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 (edited) 5 hours ago, User said: If Murder is wrong, why do other animals engage in killing each other? For the same reason many humans do, betty. 5 hours ago, User said: If rape is bad, how do animals consent to sex? Animals do not use a human, cognitive concept of consent. They mostly rely on courtship rituals to to mate, while others exhibit behaviors resembling sexual coercion to increase reproductive success. So, while coercive mating behaviors exist in the animal kingdom, trying to interpret them through human ethical frameworks is fairly pointless. You and your mentally deficient buddy's here keep attempting to equate murder to sexuality. While I think we all agree that taking another's life without just cause is wrong, I cannot agree that ones sexuality, as decided by nature, should be seen as "wrong". For one, there's no victim. With murder and rape there are clear victims. So the parallels youre attempting to draw, simply do not exist. Your m0ronic statements laid bare, exposed as the id1otic drivel they are. Edited March 31 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 1 minute ago, User said: This is why I keep pointing out the stupidity of your conflating human behavior and reasoning with what animals do. I think, in your childlike exuberance, youve completely forgotten the topic of this thread. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality, and should be granted the same societal acceptance. Do you have any competent argument against that statement? Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 (edited) 12 minutes ago, User said: You keep saying it’s OK because animals do it. It’s the foundation of the logic of your argument. Animals do a lot of things. This is why I keep pointing out the stupidity of your conflating human behavior and reasoning with what animals do. I said its as natural as heterosexuality and should be as accepted societally. Damn, you're an obstinately dumb beast. Edited March 31 by CrakHoBarbie 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: So, when did you choose to be heterosexual? I was pretty sold when i saw my first set of hooters But most people make their heterosexuality condition. It's not always ok to behave like a hetero. You can't with children, you're not supposed to when you're married unless it's with your spouse etc etc. Soooo .. i guess people DO decide when it is and isn't ok to be hetero don't they But again that's not relevant. This is why you lose arguments left right and center. You can't think your way out of a paper box. The point is the fact that its "Abhorrent" to some people and the fact that it occurs in the wild world (just as rape and murder does) is not mutually exclusive, one has nothing to do with the other. There are MANY things that happen in nature that we consider to be abhorrent behavior between humans. 1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I said its as natural as heterosexuality No you didn't. You said if homosexuality is 'abhorrent' then why does it occur in nature. The answer is that there's LOTS of things that occur in nature that man considered unacceptable for people to do to other people. Nobody thinks you're terribly bright, but you're REAAAAAALLY not helping your case here Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 1 Author Report Posted April 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I was pretty sold when i saw my first set of hooters But most people make their heterosexuality condition. It's not always ok to behave like a hetero. You can't with children, you're not supposed to when you're married unless it's with your spouse etc etc. Soooo .. i guess people DO decide when it is and isn't ok to be hetero don't they But again that's not relevant. This is why you lose arguments left right and center. You can't think your way out of a paper box. The point is the fact that its "Abhorrent" to some people and the fact that it occurs in the wild world (just as rape and murder does) is not mutually exclusive, one has nothing to do with the other. There are MANY things that happen in nature that we consider to be abhorrent behavior between humans. You said we have the ability to choose. Which implies that we are all at one time bisexual. Thus, you think we choose our sexual orientation. Its the logical conclusion to your id1otic contention. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: No you didn't. Sure I did. Its the title of this thread, Einstein. I know yall get confused easily. But, try to stay on topic. Edited April 1 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
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