herbie Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 As you point out, if you live in Vancouver or Burnaby it's a long drive to the border and a while idling at the border both ways to save a little bit. My BIL in Abbotsford used to x border for gas all the time, but with the hassles crossing and the small savings he now hits the Costco right before the border. The Blaine price is much higher than the price in Prince George ! Their tourism must be really hurting these days down there. Quote
eyeball Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 On 3/22/2026 at 7:39 PM, LinkSoul60 said: It costs a lot of money to drive out there right now. It takes roughly 50 - 60 gallons of gas or diesel an hour to run our boats at full power these days. We've had to add a fuel-surcharge. 23 hours ago, herbie said: Their tourism must be really hurting these days down there. There still seems to be enough people willing to cough up the extra cost it takes to be a dedicated tourist around here. Fingers crossed. Tourism is kind of funny that way. A lot of people seem bound and determined to enjoy a little pleasure no matter how bad things get. Apparently movie houses did well during the depression. Mind you popcorn and a pop probably didn't set you back $25 like it does now. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: It takes roughly 50 - 60 gallons of gas or diesel an hour to run our boats at full power these days. We've had to add a fuel-surcharge. Well done. With that usage and cost you have to. I'd have to think whomever is paying for the surcharge doesn't like it, but understands it. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 On 3/23/2026 at 3:21 PM, herbie said: As you point out, if you live in Vancouver or Burnaby it's a long drive to the border and a while idling at the border both ways to save a little bit. My BIL in Abbotsford used to x border for gas all the time, but with the hassles crossing and the small savings he now hits the Costco right before the border. The Blaine price is much higher than the price in Prince George ! Their tourism must be really hurting these days down there. I'm literally a driver and 5 iron from the Point Robert's border. Can't say I'm surprised, but thought I'd see more people hopping down there for gas now, but doesn't seem to be the case. Guessing most believe/hope this will be over quickly and gas will come down to where it was, which it won't. Blaine, Bellingham and Point Bob have taken a beating... Quote
eyeball Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Well done. With that usage and cost you have to. I'd have to think whomever is paying for the surcharge doesn't like it, but understands it. Well sometimes they also have to cut back on the number of trips which doesn't even help him in the end. The guy putting in the electric boat yard hereabouts is probably on the right track. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well sometimes they also have to cut back on the number of trips which doesn't even help him in the end. The guy putting in the electric boat yard hereabouts is probably on the right track. Yep... the added cost right now is making a lot of businesses pause and hoping gas prices get's back to a more normal. The guy with the electric boat yard is definitely on the right path. I have zero doubt most of what we'll be operating in time will be electrified. Quote
herbie Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: I'm literally a driver and 5 iron from the Point Robert's border. Used to live 5 mins from the truck crossing on 176th we'd pop across almost weekly in summer and often at other times. My only visit in the last 30 years was to Hyder Akaska and that was more or less by accident. No gas station there AAIK $1.629 @ Costco in Prince George today Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 (edited) 57 minutes ago, herbie said: Used to live 5 mins from the truck crossing on 176th we'd pop across almost weekly in summer and often at other times. My only visit in the last 30 years was to Hyder Akaska and that was more or less by accident. No gas station there AAIK $1.629 @ Costco in Prince George today Then stop at The Bennett for a beer on your way back... They're all getting hammered because of less people crossing the border but being closer to the Point pay a little more attention there. It's dying on a vine right now... We're $2.149... only a $0.52 difference or $26 more on a 50 litre top. Part of the benefits to living in metro Vancouver I guess... Read the other day that Costco was getting into stand-alone gas stations along with expanding into current locations. More competition in the necessities space is a good thing. Edited March 25 by LinkSoul60 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 7 hours ago, eyeball said: It takes roughly 50 - 60 gallons of gas or diesel an hour to run our boats at full power these days. We've had to add a fuel-surcharge. Wow, just think of how much climate change we could have prevented if the carbon tax was still on that Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 (edited) 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Wow, just think of how much climate change we could have prevented if the carbon tax was still on that I'm struck by how willing people are to keep ponying up. It's easier to believe the economy is in a lot better shape than people who say it's doomed because of a 0. whatever increase to food inflation due to a carbon tax. In any case Iran will have the world back on track towards alternatives in no time. There's more than one way to skin that cat. All it took to get the ball rolling in earnest was a big fat stupid conservative with a gun aimed at his foot. Good job. Edited March 25 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 Grew up with an Uncle who lived in Pt Roberts, spent many Sunday Services at the Breakers in my youth, Even serviced that area when it was part of BC Tel's Tsawassen exchange. Nice little border oddity. Last place I ever saw real Beer Nuts, They just raised prices here a couple more cents - without getting a new delivery. Rasing prices on gas they already bought and is in the tank is common practice, but highly unethical. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I'm struck by how willing people are to keep ponying up. They can't see it anymore. It's not really an option for them it's built into the price of their food and other goods and services Quote It's easier to believe the economy is in a lot better shape than people who say it's doomed because of a 0. whatever increase to food inflation due to a carbon tax. You mean it's easier to believe lies? Well for the liberal supporters for sure. It's literally how they get to be liberal supporters Quote In any case Iran will have the world back on track towards alternatives in no time. There's more than one way to skin that cat. Want to bet? Quote All it took to get the ball rolling in earnest was a big fat stupid conservative with a gun aimed at his foot. Good job. Unless the Ayatollah was standing on his foot when he got blown up I think the guns were aimed somewhere else If you want to talk about people shooting themselves in the foot how about the liberals? 10 years of carbon tax that all turned out to be a lie and now nobody's interested in climate change anymore Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: If you want to talk about people shooting themselves in the foot how about the liberals? 10 years of carbon tax that all turned out to be a lie and now nobody's interested in climate change anymore Yup. Another good reason not to vote for them. If you recall I was the first poster in this forum to point out Carney's first official lie, that consumer carbon taxes are an ineffective means to mitigate climate change. You've been tooting his horn ever since. Edited March 25 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup. Another good reason not to vote for them. And yet you do Quote If you recall I was the first poster in this forum to point out Carney's first official lie, that consumer carbon taxes are an ineffective means to mitigate climate change. I recall you clearly standing up for the carbon tax many times while justin was in power. We had a number of discussions over it where i pointed out that it was useless and why it was useless at great length and you disagreed. You were extremely pro carbon tax. But like many liberals as soon as great leader says it's bad you parrot that and pretend you were against it all along Quote You've been tooting his horn ever since. Carney? Suuuuure, everyone KNOWS i'm a huge carney fan, i just hide it by criticizing him constantly LOL 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Some days you don't even try to hide your stupid do you? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I recall you clearly standing up for the carbon tax many times while justin was in power. Yup, I've stood up for it ever since Conservatives introduced it, back when you and Justin were busy dressing up your GI Joe action figures with your sister's Barby clothes. 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Carney? Suuuuure, everyone KNOWS i'm a huge carney fan, i just hide it by criticizing him constantly LOL So you do disagree with his position that the carbon tax he cut was useless? Takes a liar to know one I guess. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 (edited) 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup, I've stood up for it ever since Conservatives introduced it, back when you and Justin were busy dressing up your GI Joe action figures with your sister's Barby clothes. But they didn't introduce it. They proposed it as an idea and then abandon it when analysis proved it wouldn't work. They weren't dumb enough to actually try implementing it they just thought it was worth looking at Despite the fact that it had already been shown that it would be ineffective the left when climate losers like yourself reached into the conservative trash bin and pulled it out uncrumpled the paper and said hey this idea that'll never work is just what we need. Sorry kiddo, this stupidity is entirely liberal and the left. The conservatives Looked at it and realized what it was, and idea that looked good at first glance but when you really think about it could not possibly work. And it didn't But hey, at least you've given up pretending you were against it or thought carney was doing a good thing Edited March 25 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The conservatives Looked at it and realized what it was, and idea that looked good at first glance but when you really think about it could not possibly work. I bet they simply caved to a well-heeled whiny lobbyist. In the meantime... The "Economists' Statement": In one of the largest displays of professional agreement, over 3,600 economists—including 28 Nobel Prize winners—signed a letter endorsing carbon taxes as the most effective "lever" for emission reduction at scale. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 Just now, eyeball said: I bet they simply caved to a well-heeled whiny lobbyist. I'm sure the voice is in your head imagine all kinds of reasons too explain your own hypocrisy. But they did mention specifically why they thought it wouldn't work. Which turned out to be absolutely true. So probably no lobbyists and if there were lobbyists the lobbyists in this particular case would have been correct 1 minute ago, eyeball said: The "Economists' Statement": In one of the largest displays of professional agreement, over 3,600 economists—including 28 Nobel Prize winners—signed a letter endorsing carbon taxes as the most effective "lever" for emission reduction at scale. And they were wrong as we now know with certainty. Which means they either signed it bowing to political pressure which is probably the most likely, or they weren't very bright which is always possible. But either way we know it doesn't work now. And conservatives and the economists that they spoke to new why it wasn't going to work and that's why they abandoned it Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Which means they either signed it bowing to political pressure which is probably the most likely, or they weren't very bright which is always possible. Yeah, they hand those Nobel prizes out to any old fool that comes along don't they? BTW has any denier ever been awarded a Nobel Prize yet? You could be the first if you had even a smidge of courage to go along with your conviction. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yeah, they hand those Nobel prizes out to any old fool that comes along don't they? none of those Nobel prizes were for work on the carbon tax specifically. Sadly sometimes people get full of themselves, much like you do, and then they're made to agree to things that perhaps they wouldn't in other circumstances But at the end of the day they have proven to be wrong. And we can explain exactly why they're wrong given the results. Sorry but this isn't a matter of conjecture they were just wrong. The carbon tax did nothing substantial to produce climate change at all doing nothing would have actually been more productive 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: BTW has any denier ever been awarded a Nobel Prize yet? Nobody's been awarded a Nobel Prize for or against it as a matter of fact. But it's not really relevant. The facts are in. After 11 years the carbon tax did nothing to reduce climate change in any substantial way. And the liberals have admitted that they didn't really expect it to, they didn't set any targets nor did they set up any means of monitoring it specifically which they easily could have. I understand that when the snake oil bottle is empty and the salesman has left town it's easy to be angry at yourself for having made a bad choice and sometimes hard to admit But unfortunately that's where you're at. The carbon tax was utterly useless. And just a few posts above that's what you were claiming your position was as well when carney canceled it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 41 minutes ago, eyeball said: You could be the first if you had even a smidge of courage to go along with your conviction. How? You going if I was 100% correct and wrote a paper that demonstrated it without the proper credentials you're not getting a Nobel Prize for anything. And unfortunately these days the Nobel Prize is largely political for many areas. The problem is the deep down you are the coward and you like to project that on other people. It takes a little bit of courage to admit you were wrong which you clearly are. So I understand why you're struggling with it Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 You DO have a choice. Own a single family dwelling? Buy an EV for everyday use and only insure the truck/station wagon in summer for road trips. Quote
User Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 9 hours ago, herbie said: Rasing prices on gas they already bought and is in the tank is common practice, but highly unethical. How is it highly unethical? The price is adjusted according to current market demand. Quote
eyeball Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 (edited) 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: And we can explain exactly why they're wrong given the results. I bet most people would expect that, especially when it's 28 Nobel Laureates you're calling out. 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: The carbon tax was utterly useless. And just a few posts above that's what you were claiming your position was as well when carney canceled it Sure kid. Edited March 26 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted March 26 Author Report Posted March 26 13 hours ago, User said: How is it highly unethical? The price is adjusted according to current market demand. The Grand Nagus speaks..... Quote
User Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 Just now, herbie said: The Grand Nagus speaks..... The chicken runs... 1 Quote
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