Deluge Posted January 20 Author Report Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, Barquentine said: If that were the case the DOJ would carry out a real investigation and allow the the Minnesota justice system to see their evidence. If it's such an open and shut case why are they brushing it under the rug so fast? What are they afraid of? Even Homan said he would wait for the investigation before he decided. (Until he got his knuckles rapped and back-pedaled). This is the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt DOJ in US history. And you support them blindly, to no one's surprise. You're arguing as if border erasing psychopaths are always right and ICE is always wrong. Renee Good is dead because she deliberately disrupted immigration enforcement. You traitors need to warm up to a new precedent: get the f*ck out of the way, or you might get shot. 1 Quote
User Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: If that were the case the DOJ would carry out a real investigation and allow the the Minnesota justice system to see their evidence. If it's such an open and shut case why are they brushing it under the rug so fast? What are they afraid of? Even Homan said he would wait for the investigation before he decided. (Until he got his knuckles rapped and back-pedaled). This is the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt DOJ in US history. And you support them blindly, to no one's surprise. They are doing a real investigation. why would they allow an openly hostile local government to investigate something that isn’t even in their power to prosecute? How are they brushing it under the rug or fast? You can’t engage in a fact based logical honest discussion here. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: If that were the case the DOJ would carry out a real investigation and allow the the Minnesota justice system to see their evidence. It'll be allowed to see the evidence but they were interfering with the end the eyes investigation so the FBI is investigating first. But there's absolutely nothing to stop the local police from continuing their own investigations. So no, you're wrong. Quote If it's such an open and shut case why are they brushing it under the rug so fast? What are they afraid of? Even Homan said he would wait for the investigation before he decided. (Until he got his knuckles rapped and back-pedaled). Nobody's brushing anything under the rug. They're investigating and they will report once the investigation is done on that report will be public. Meanwhile local police can absolutely still investigate on their own. That whole movie business of fBI jurisdiction and such is kind of bullshit Quote This is the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt DOJ in US history. What are you talking about? Biden lost the election It's amazing how your kind insists that it's not possible for the doj to be corrupt or used politically when it's your guy in power but it's insist that it was instantly corrupted and is totally political when the next guy takes over. 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 19 hours ago, Deluge said: You traitors need to warm up to a new precedent: get the f*ck out of the way, or you might get shot. Welcome to Trump's America. PAPERS? Halt or we vill shoot! Quote
User Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Welcome to Trump's America. PAPERS? Halt or we vill shoot! Yep, you nailed it. Make sure to stay in your basement. 1 2 Quote
Deluge Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 27 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Welcome to Trump's America. PAPERS? Halt or we vill shoot! Look, I get that this completely escapes a marxist foot soldier like you, but we voted for secure borders and that's what we're getting. It doesn't matter that you screaming psychopaths are unhappy - all that matters is that we keep this nation intact. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: Welcome to Trump's America. PAPERS? Halt or we vill shoot! I know it's crazy! Next thing you know they'll be asking for documentation like driver's licenses when they stop people!! Traffic cops are total nazis!!!! LOL This is what happens when you don't create a more civil option. The democrats spent ages going out of their way to protect illegal immigrants and shelter them deliberately thumbing their noses at people and not just republicans but lots of people who had concerns about this Seeing as the democrats left no peaceful resolution possible, they made violent resolution inevitable. And as you move forward in life. You can get away with being a complete twat to a certain point, but when people decide they've had enough the results can be explosive. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: I know it's crazy! Next thing you know they'll be asking for documentation Now ICE claiming they can smash their way into anybody's house without a warrant. I'm curious as to what would be over the line for you when it comes to ignoring not just the law but human decency. 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: And as you move forward in life. You can get away with being a complete twat to a certain point Ok, but enough about you. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Now ICE claiming they can smash their way into anybody's house without a warrant That is not what they said. They said the need an Administrative Warrant rather than a Judicial Warrant. However the Administrative Warrant is only valid IF a Judge has signed a final order of removal. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-policy-officers-enter-homes-immigration-without-judicial-warrant-rcna255305 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Barquentine Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: However the Administrative Warrant is only valid IF a Judge has signed a final order of removal. "An internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement document in May shows that ICE told officers and agents they can forcibly enter homes of people subject to deportation without warrants signed by judges." Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 36 minutes ago, Barquentine said: "An internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement document in May shows that ICE told officers and agents they can forcibly enter homes of people subject to deportation without warrants signed by judges." Read the rest: “Although the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has not historically relied on administrative warrants alone to arrest aliens subject to final orders of removal in their place of residence, the DHS Office of General Counsel has recently determined that the U.S. Constitution, the Immigration and Nationality Act, and the immigration regulations do not prohibit relying on administrative warrants for this purpose,” the memo reads. The memo says agents may “arrest and detain aliens” in their places of residence who are subject to final orders of removal issued by immigration judges, the Board of Immigration Appeals, or U.S. district or magistrate judges. The memo says under general guidelines that officers and agents using a method called Form I-205 must “knock and announce” and that “in announcing, officers and agents must state their identity and purpose.” It says that officers and agents must give the people inside time to comply with the order. It also says that they generally should not enter a residence before 6 a.m. or after 10 p.m., and that they "should only use a necessary and reasonable amount of force” to enter a home. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 ......... an overwhelming percentage of the population disapprove of ICE. What really matters at this point is retaining the House. The optics are going south - the perception. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, John Stone said: an overwhelming percentage of the population disapprove of ICE. No. They disapprove of the leftist spin of what ICE is doing. They overwhelmingly want deportations. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Deluge Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: "An internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement document in May shows that ICE told officers and agents they can forcibly enter homes of people subject to deportation without warrants signed by judges." Love it. All they need to do now is write a similar document for the open borders sluts. Quote
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Now ICE claiming they can smash their way into anybody's house without a warrant. I'm curious as to what would be over the line for you when it comes to ignoring not just the law but human decency. No, you mindlessly read a headline or got this talking point from whatever leftist cult you are a member of and didn't bother to do any fact checking on your own... As already pointed out to you, they do in fact have a warrant, but it is an administrative one WITH a final order of removal from an Immigration Judge. These would be targetted arrests in homes for people with that warrant and order, both from a Judge. What they do not have is a very specific home arrest warrant giving them explicit permission to enter a home... and guess what, you will not like this part... but this is not a criminal case. This is not a Law and Order episode where if the Police enter without a warrant the case gets thrown out because the evidence obtained and arrest were wrongfully executed... this is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT with an order of removal. They will be deported. LOL Quote
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 hours ago, John Stone said: ......... an overwhelming percentage of the population disapprove of ICE. What really matters at this point is retaining the House. The optics are going south - the perception. Yeah, that is all folks have to hide behind, not the facts, which is a narrative and lie pushed buy the left and the main stream media backing them. If every day the media focused on how a child molester or rapists or violent criminal was just arrested, percpetion would be much different. I am interested in facts. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 On 1/20/2026 at 12:06 PM, User said: They are doing a real investigation. why would they allow an openly hostile local government to investigate something that isn’t even in their power to prosecute? How are they brushing it under the rug or fast? You can’t engage in a fact based logical honest discussion here. Obviously, you've lost your way, and have traded your humanity for tribalisim. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1608763557132355/?mibextid=NOb6eG Quote
CdnFox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: Now ICE claiming they can smash their way into anybody's house without a warrant. Well they can if there's probable cause to believe a crime is being committed, they're in pursuit of a suspect or if they believe evidence is being destroyed. That's the law in the us and canada and has been for generations. Yet another case of 'it's always been like this but ice does it and we pretend it's brand new and are furious". 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: Ok, but enough about you. Oh!!! SO witty So intelligent! ROFLMAO, what are you in grade 3 kid? I see today that the ice haters tried to claim that ice 'detained' a 5 year old and then 'used him as bait' to trick people in the house into opening up. The true story comes out, the kid was with his dad, they went to arrest the dad and dad fled the scene leaving the kid behind in his car. They took the kid out of the car and took him to the front of the house and knocked to see if there was anyone who could care for him, etc. Your side is LYING THEIR ASSES OFF. How many days did you pretend that Good was 'just driving away' and 'never hit the cop' and 'was no threat' till video evidence even YOU couldn't lie about became available? If you have to lie to make your point you don't have a point. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Obviously, you've lost your way, and have traded your humanity for tribalisim. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1608763557132355/?mibextid=NOb6eG No you f*cking hypocrite, YOU'VE lost your way. No freedom loving American will ever support your need to erase borders and burn the country to the ground. You're looking for multi-tribalism - the more alien diversity you can cram into this country, the more tribes there will be, therefore, the happier you cultists will be. Everything about you f*ckers is wrong. Quote
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Obviously, you've lost your way, and have traded your humanity for tribalisim. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1608763557132355/?mibextid=NOb6eG So… a bunch of baseless personal assertions and a Facebook link. here I thought Robo was the most worthless poster on this forum. Quote
John Stone Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: No. They disapprove of the leftist spin of what ICE is doing. They overwhelmingly want deportations. ................. lets compromise and say that while the electorate do agree with the deportations, the Left is doing a great job of spinning the actions of ICE. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words, well it's x10 for edited vid. Impossible to quantify how ICE actions will translate politically ............. but I'd advise ICE to not let themselves be punked so easily and to try and get off their back foot. Quote
John Stone Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, User said: Yeah, that is all folks have to hide behind, not the facts, which is a narrative and lie pushed buy the left and the main stream media backing them. If every day the media focused on how a child molester or rapists or violent criminal was just arrested, percpetion would be much different. I am interested in facts. The court of public opinion rarely (ever) deals in facts......... forgive me for saying they're not that intelligent. The court of public opinion deals in perception which translates politically. Any organization that has a superb front person who sounds good, is convincing and sharp on retort? Stick a knife in the opposition, they're done like dinner. ............ WH spokes person, JD Vance comes to mind. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, John Stone said: ................. lets compromise and say that while the electorate do agree with the deportations, the Left is doing a great job of spinning the actions of ICE. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words, well it's x10 for edited vid. Impossible to quantify how ICE actions will translate politically ............. but I'd advise ICE to not let themselves be punked so easily and to try and get off their back foot. If Trump has taught us anything it is that the left is to be ignored. They control those polls. Don't let them fool you into believing Americans are against ICE. They are not. They might be against a few incidents ts that have been portrayed poorly. But they are not against ICE. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: If Trump has taught us anything it is that the left is to be ignored. They control those polls. Don't let them fool you into believing Americans are against ICE. They are not. They might be against a few incidents ts that have been portrayed poorly. But they are not against ICE. Exactly End of the day, Trump won huge on this issue. These polls ask biased questions. If you ask people if they support deporting Illegal Immigrants focusing on the worst and if local authorities do not cooperate forcing ICE to go out into communities and if people then obstruct ICE should they be arrested… All of a sudden these polls are not against them. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 59 minutes ago, User said: So… a bunch of baseless personal assertions and a Facebook link. here I thought Robo was the most worthless poster on this forum. Donalds supporters are halfwitted malcontents who support murder. That is objectively true. Which part confuses you? Or, does everything confuse you? "The red hats dont know much about anything, and they love reminding us of it, over and over and over" ------------CrakHoBarbie Quote
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