Michael Ma Allegedly Cancelled his FB and Insta Accounts, Petition for him to Resign Theoretically has 30,000 signatures

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

^^Average leftist^^

Nope, not at all.

The real problem with you, and conservatives in general, for the past 4 elections is that it is never me/us...it is always someone else that is the problem.

You have excuses for everything. You complain about everything. You blame everyone else. You even turn on each other.

Perhaps you folks need to look inside of yourselves and your organization.

But hey, blame me. Blame others. Call me names. Call anyone names that do not agree with you. Tell me I am wrong.

Anything that will excuse you and your conservatives for failing time after time after time after time.

Not being insulting to you at all, just trying to put some perspective to this. 

Edited December 15, 2025 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

30 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Do NO Liberal supporters here wonder WHY the Liberal government is so against setting up the foreign agent registry?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Seriously??

Do you really think foreign agents will register?

Every government has suspicions and has people on a list but...our laws prevent any public accusations without proof and court decisions.

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Seriously??

Do you really think foreign agents will register?

Every government has suspicions and has people on a list but...our laws prevent any public accusations without proof and court decisions.

You're right.

We just continue the Liberal practice of doing nothing about foreign interference.

Sooooooo much better. 🙄

[ExFlyer]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You're right.

We just continue the Liberal practice of doing nothing about foreign interference.

Sooooooo much better. 🙄

And the conservatives before them

Are you really so naive to think foreign agents is a new thing???   LOL LOL LOL

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Are you really so naive to think foreign agents is a new thing???   LOL LOL LOL

Why do you do this all the time?  We weren't talking about whether foreign interference was a new thing or not.

Here, I'll put it in your language:

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Why do you do this all the time?  We weren't talking about whether foreign interference was a new thing or not.

Here, I'll put it in your language:

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL

No but you tried to blame the liberals and therein you were very very wrong.

You said "We just continue the Liberal practice of doing nothing about foreign interference." and I said then so were the conservatives...equal at doing nothing .

Back at ya 

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOSER LOL LOL

[Goddess]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

No but you tried to blame the liberals and therein you were very very wrong.

Ya, I know.

Liberals are saints.  They have ruled with true fiscal prudency and benevolence, honesty and ethics.

Any time it has LOOKED like they've been wrong, it was really Harper's fault.

Elbows up for Great Liberal Leaders, comrade!

[ExFlyer]

29 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Ya, I know.

Liberals are saints.  T...

Any time it has LOOKED like they've been wrong, it was really Harper's fault.

...comrade!

 

Nope and never said that but you implying they are the only one is naive and untrue.

Never said it was Harpers fault either.

Accept the fact all governments did nothing about it.

 

Thank you. At least you realize we are intimate friends 

comrade

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: an intimate friend or associate : companion

[I am Groot]

On 12/15/2025 at 9:36 AM, ExFlyer said:

So, it was OK for him to be a Conservative candidate and elected as a conservative and even goes to Chinese celebrations as a conservative but when he realized the conservative leadership was a joke and moved over...he is a Chinese sympathizer and evil liberal??? 

Man...you folks are sure hypocritical LOL LOL LOL

Hmm, more like he was approached by the Chinese consul, invited to the celebration, held discussions about what was best for China, and they both decided that the most China-friendly party in Canada was the Liberals.

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Hmm, more like he was approached by the Chinese consul, invited to the celebration, held discussions about what was best for China, and they both decided that the most China-friendly party in Canada was the Liberals.

All overnight??

I think the thing I am trying to say is that it seems every ethnic MP seems to be getting the third degree about association with some foreign actors.

A MP is invited to many many events and meetings with many different associations and people. They pretty well have to attend but, that does not mean they are secret agents for them.

Ho was vetted and even parachuted into the riding by the Conservatives (that ousted the person that was selected to run) but when he decided the conservative vision was not for him and the liberal one was...he is immediately designated a chinese agent by the conservatives?? 

Also, lets talk "Chinese-friendly". We have been "Chinese-friendly" for many decades. We chose to buy things cheaper and allowed our products to be made in China so we would spend less. This is not a liberal conspiracy, this is all political party issue. Harper, if you remember, allowed the sale of our oil producers to be sold to china so... "Stephen Harper's government significantly deepened economic ties with China through multiple trade missions, securing deals in resources, agriculture, and finance and growing Chinese state-owned investment, like the controversial Nexen oil deal"

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Hmm, more like he was approached by the Chinese consul, invited to the celebration, held discussions about what was best for China, and they both decided that the most China-friendly party in Canada was the Liberals.

I haven't read ex-flyer's post, because he's on ignore, but I bet it says:

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Too may facts, loser! Ha ha ha ha! Loser!

Carney is the best ever, loser.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I think the thing I am trying to say is that it seems every ethnic MP seems to be getting the third degree about association with some foreign actors.

That's a lie.

Don't invent a story just to try to slander people who are trying to have a serious conversation on an important topic.

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A MP is invited to many many events and meetings with many different associations and people. They pretty well have to attend but, that does not mean they are secret agents for them.

That's not an accurate comparison, and you know that.

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Also, lets talk "Chinese-friendly". We have been "Chinese-friendly" for many decades. We chose to buy things cheaper and allowed our products to be made in China so we would spend less. This is not a liberal conspiracy, this is all political party issue. Harper, if you remember, allowed the sale of our oil producers to be sold to china so... "Stephen Harper's government significantly deepened economic ties with China....

Countries have been friendly for centuries and then gone to war, e-f.

In the past decade it has become crystal clear that China is very adversarial towards the west, and their gov't has been working against us. 

What other countries have agents here that are directing their citizens to act against us? There are some to be sure, like Iran, Palestine, etc. And when those countries start influencing, coercing, bribing their citizens to act against us, we need to take notice always, and take action when necessary.

You know that if the CPC left MPs in power, after we knew that they were compromised by a geopolitical foe, you'd be howling "CHINESE COLLUSION!!!" like Beave with his Russia BS. 

Fact:

• the LPOC and their voters are cozy with Chinese-influenced politicians. 
• the LPoC and their voters were happy to put "Trump's guy" in power: you even parroted his pro-Carney/anti-PP rhetoric as if he was some kind of political guru here in Canada.
• The funniest part is that, even after you saw how quickly Trump turned his "favourite" Prime-Ministerial candidate into his his boy-toy, you still carry on pretending that Trump had Canada's best interests in mind when he pushed for Carney to be elected 🤣

For some reason you will choose a foreign-owned/influenced Liberal candidate over a pro-Canada conservative.

Now that we see how leftists like Gaetan, herbie and Radiorum are all pro-terrorist, their support for the LPoC suddenly starts to make a lot of sense. People who hate western values, and don't respect our combat-dead, love the LPoC. 

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's a lie.

Don't invent a story just to try to slander people who are trying to have a serious conversation on an important topic.

That's not an accurate comparison, and you know that.

Countries have been friendly for centuries and then gone to war, e-f.

In the past decade it has become crystal clear that China is very adversarial towards the west, and their gov't has been working against us. 

What other countries have agents here that are directing their citizens to act against us? There are some to be sure, like Iran, Palestine, etc. And when those countries start influencing, coercing, bribing their citizens to act against us, we need to take notice always, and take action when necessary.

You know that if the CPC left MPs in power, after we knew that they were compromised by a geopolitical foe, you'd be howling "CHINESE COLLUSION!!!" like Beave with his Russia BS. 

Fact:

• the LPOC and their voters are cozy with Chinese-influenced politicians. 
• the LPoC and their voters were happy to put "Trump's guy" in power: you even parroted his pro-Carney/anti-PP rhetoric as if he was some kind of political guru here in Canada.
• The funniest part is that, even after you saw how quickly Trump turned his "favourite" Prime-Ministerial candidate into his his boy-toy, you still carry on pretending that Trump had Canada's best interests in mind when he pushed for Carney to be elected 🤣

For some reason you will choose a foreign-owned/influenced Liberal candidate over a pro-Canada conservative.

Now that we see how leftists like Gaetan, herbie and Radiorum are all pro-terrorist, their support for the LPoC suddenly starts to make a lot of sense. People who hate western values, and don't respect our combat-dead, love the LPoC. 

What is it with you???

You are one of the most paranoid conspiracy minded people I have ever encountered.  I truly think your tin foil has is on too tight LOL LOL LOL

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

What is it with you???

You are one of the most paranoid conspiracy minded people I have ever encountered.  I truly think your tin foil has is on too tight LOL LOL LOL

^^F-Tard^^

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I think the thing I am trying to say is that it seems every ethnic MP seems to be getting the third degree about association with some foreign actors.

^^Same F-Tard^^

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

^^F-Tard^^

^^Same F-Tard^^

Ooooo What a comeback!!! Tsk Tsk Tsk

As lame as any LOSER can manage LOL LOL LOL

So sad from someone so simple HA HA HA

Edited December 16, 2025 by ExFlyer

[suds]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Hmm, more like he was approached by the Chinese consul, invited to the celebration, held discussions about what was best for China, and they both decided that the most China-friendly party in Canada was the Liberals.

That, or something very close to it. Because it's the only thing that makes any sense.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

All overnight??

No. It happened over a period of weeks. 

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I think the thing I am trying to say is that it seems every ethnic MP seems to be getting the third degree about association with some foreign actors.

Gee, I wonder why that would be? It can't be because CSIS has told us that foreign actors are influencing our politicians, would it? That there was allegedly a list of 10 MPs who were owned by China that was never produced? That the Liberals refused to introduce a law about foreign influence for years, and when they finally did, they dragged their heels and have still not put that law and that foreign agent registration into effect? It wouldn't be the series of foreign-born MPs showing a great deal of affection and loyalty to the countries they were born in, would it? Making statements in the House and taking political positions in support of those countries?

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

A MP is invited to many many events and meetings with many different associations and people. They pretty well have to attend but, that does not mean they are secret agents for them.

Given that suspicion of Chinese influence, I would have thought he'd do his best to stay away from the Chinese consulate and embassy and those who work there, and also away from groups like the United Front. But nope.

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ho was vetted and even parachuted into the riding by the Conservatives (that ousted the person that was selected to run)

After that person selected had told people to arrest his opponent and bring him to the Chinese police station for a bounty China had put out on him. Gee, no Chinese influence THERE! 

Let's face some facts here. China wields such influence in the Chinese community here that they are able to get MPs elected and get others booted if they go against China. Virtually all Chinese language media in Canada tow the CCP line and are owned by people friendly with the CCP. This, according to CSIS. The bulk of the Chinese in Canada do not appear to have left because they hate China or were persecuted, but for economic reasons. And many intend to return there when they retire.

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Also, lets talk "Chinese-friendly". We have been "Chinese-friendly" for many decades.

The China of the past was not the threat the China of today is.

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

We chose to buy things cheaper and allowed our products to be made in China so we would spend less. This is not a liberal conspiracy, this is all political party issue. Harper, if you remember, allowed the sale of our oil producers to be sold to china so...

One oil producer, as I recall.

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

"Stephen Harper's government significantly deepened economic ties with China through multiple trade missions, securing deals in resources, agriculture, and finance and growing Chinese state-owned investment, like the controversial Nexen oil deal"

Let's also remember, as I do because I'm old, that Harper was severely and repeatedly criticized by the opposition and the mainstream media for not doing enough to deepen ties with China during his first few years in office. He gave them the cold shoulder. Then the attempted putsch came from the group of three amid the financial recession, and he changed his mind out of necessity.

[I am Groot]

On 12/15/2025 at 12:09 PM, Goddess said:

Did you miss the part where this was 6 weeks ago - AFTER the election?  Or you just ignore the parts that don't fit your narrative?

He's clearly been taken over by the CCP.  Or was planted beforehand.

I was on a conservative forum a few days back and people were complaining that he should have been vetted better before the election. And one guy from around that area simply said, to paraphrase, "Look at the demographics of that riding. Nobody gets elected there without the blessing of the CCP. It's as simple as that."

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

No. It happened over a period of weeks. 

Gee, I wonder why that would be? It can't be because CSIS has told us that foreign actors are influencing our politicians, would it? That there was allegedly a list of 10 MPs who were owned by China that was never produced? That the Liberals refused to introduce a law about foreign influence for years, and when they finally did, they dragged their heels and have still not put that law and that foreign agent registration into effect? It wouldn't be the series of foreign-born MPs showing a great deal of affection and loyalty to the countries they were born in, would it? Making statements in the House and taking political positions in support of those countries?

Given that suspicion of Chinese influence, I would have thought he'd do his best to stay away from the Chinese consulate and embassy and those who work there, and also away from groups like the United Front. But nope.

After that person selected had told people to arrest his opponent and bring him to the Chinese police station for a bounty China had put out on him. Gee, no Chinese influence THERE! 

Let's face some facts here. China wields such influence in the Chinese community here that they are able to get MPs elected and get others booted if they go against China. Virtually all Chinese language media in Canada tow the CCP line and are owned by people friendly with the CCP. This, according to CSIS. The bulk of the Chinese in Canada do not appear to have left because they hate China or were persecuted, but for economic reasons. And many intend to return there when they retire.

The China of the past was not the threat the China of today is.

One oil producer, as I recall.

Let's also remember, as I do because I'm old, that Harper was severely and repeatedly criticized by the opposition and the mainstream media for not doing enough to deepen ties with China during his first few years in office. He gave them the cold shoulder. Then the attempted putsch came from the group of three amid the financial recession, and he changed his mind out of necessity.

Wow..the conspiracy theory group has certainly taken over your mind. Make sure you rider the new style tin hat for yourself LOL

[ExFlyer]

58 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I was on a conservative forum a few days back and people were complaining that he should have been vetted better before the election. And one guy from around that area simply said, to paraphrase, "Look at the demographics of that riding. Nobody gets elected there without the blessing of the CCP. It's as simple as that."

As I have been saying. 

He was parachuted in (to replace incumbent Bob Saroya) and he was back then what he is now. If the Cons say he is a foreign agent now...why did they not know that then???

[Goddess]

It's looking more and more like Ma DID NOT consult with his constituents before crossing the floor.

There's been protests outside his constituency office since the news and now a planned protest for this Saturday.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Wow..the conspiracy theory group has certainly taken over your mind. Make sure you rider the new style tin hat for yourself LOL

What about what I said isn't based on reports from CSIS?

[I am Groot]

On 12/15/2025 at 3:22 PM, ExFlyer said:

Seriously??

Do you really think foreign agents will register?

If they don't, they can be arrested. Unless they're engaged in some deliberate efforts at hiding their money, like unregistered foreign bank accounts, which makes them more like foreign spies than simply people willing to use their influence on behalf of a foreign actor, then the money going to them can be traced and needs to be explained. Anyone, like say, Jean Chretien, who is often speaking on behalf of China, can be required to explain where the money is coming from.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

As I have been saying. 

He was parachuted in (to replace incumbent Bob Saroya) and he was back then what he is now. If the Cons say he is a foreign agent now...why did they not know that then???

Not a dumb question. As I recall this story from last year, when he replaced the existing guy, I had my doubts about how close he seemed to the CCP back then. It seemed to me they were replacing one pro-China activist with a guy who seemed, from what reports I recall, to be entirely too close to China himself.

The Liberals weren't any better. Carney refused to boot out their candidate, despite him telling people to 'arrest' his opponent and bring him to the Chinese consulate for a reward, until the guy finally resigned three weeks before the election.

[ExFlyer]

50 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

What about what I said isn't based on reports from CSIS?

I( am not sure. Is it the stuff the Conservative party vetting missed??

47 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

If they don't, they can be arrested. Unless they're engaged in some deliberate efforts at hiding their money, like unregistered foreign bank accounts, which makes them more like foreign spies than simply people willing to use their influence on behalf of a foreign actor, then the money going to them can be traced and needs to be explained. Anyone, like say, Jean Chretien, who is often speaking on behalf of China, can be required to explain where the money is coming from.

If you know about them and can prove it.