Slavery- a new old economic model?

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

1. So it is your hypothesis that anyone who breaks the law forfeits their humanity?

 

2. Where did you learn that word? From Trump? Learn to think for yourself.

 

3. I do not support illegal entry into the country.

 

4. But I recognize a human when I see one. 

1. No woketard, that is not my hypothesis. My hypothesis is that the democrat party stands with illegal aliens to help beef up their dwindling support. 

2. I've known that word since grammar school - looooong before Trump - and it fits you like a glove.  

I'm always thinking for myself - you should try it sometime.

3. Yes you do. You argue on behalf of illegal aliens and that makes you a traitor to this country. Stop gaslighting yourself - it's almost as bad as gaslighting others. 

4. I don't think so, comrade. I think you recognize illegal immigration and you've found it very much to your liking. 

Edited November 19, 2025 by Deluge

[Radiorum]

Just now, Deluge said:

1. No woketard, that is not my hypothesis. My hypothesis is that the democrat party stands with illegal aliens to help beef up their dwindling support. 

2. I've known that word since grammar school - looooong before Trump - and it fits you like a glove.  

I'm always thinking for myself - you should try it sometimes

3. Yes you are. You argue on behalf of illegal aliens and that makes you a traitor to this country. Stop gaslighting yourself - it's almost as bad as gaslighting others. 

4. I don't think so, comrade. I think you recognize illegal immigration and you've found it very much to your liking. 

 

In all this, you have neglected my main point.

[Deluge]

Just now, Radiorum said:

In all this, you have neglected my main point.

You don't have a point. That's your problem. 

[Radiorum]

7 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You don't have a point. That's your problem. 

 

That's just false. I did have a point. It's you that does not have any counterpoint.

[Deluge]

Just now, Radiorum said:

That's just false. I did have a point. It's you that does not have any counterpoint.

You have left-wing activism and that's wrong for America. 

[Radiorum]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You have left-wing activism and that's wrong for America. 

And you think slavery is the answer?????

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

And you think slavery is the answer?????

You bet your ass. The whole idea is to make them think twice about breaking into the country. 

But it's not really slavery, as they can self deport anytime they want. 

Edited November 19, 2025 by Deluge

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

So it is your hypothesis that anyone who breaks the law forfeits their humanity?

Did he say that? No. He said he is better/more human than them because they broke the law and he didn’t. The fact you have to twist his words just to make a point that even you would accept is very telling. 

 

[Radiorum]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Did he say that?

 

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

You bet your ass.

 

 

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

The whole idea is to make them think twice about breaking into the country. 

But it's not really slavery, as they can self deport anytime they want. 

You clearly have limited understanding about slavery.

 

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

He said he is better/more human than them because they broke the law and he didn’t.

You have limited understanding of slavery, too, since it takes away someone's humanity.

 

I like what Frederick Douglass had to say about it. He said, "Knowledge makes no man fit to be a slave."

So, following from that, the ignorance of you and Deluge seems to make you both fit to be slaves.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

You bet your ass. The whole idea is to make them think twice about breaking into the country. 

But it's not really slavery, as they can self deport anytime they want. 

Fun fact side note, the:Ies that would eventually become Canada actually had a long like that back in the day. Slavery was technically legal, but only if the slave agreed to it. They had to have the right to leave at any time. Not "if they save up and buy their freedom' or the like, literally just "Yeah i'm outta here" "ok thanks for all the cotton" sort of thing.   

Slavery was shortly after that abolished and of course it was banned in all british colonies long before Canada was born but i always read about that and hear Indigo Montoya saying "Slavery. this word, i do not think it means what you think it does..."

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by CdnFox

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

1. You clearly have limited understanding about slavery.

 

2. You have limited understanding of slavery, too, since it takes away someone's humanity.

 

3. I like what Frederick Douglass had to say about it. He said, "Knowledge makes no man fit to be a slave."

So, following from that, the ignorance of you and Deluge seems to make you both fit to be slaves.

1. No, I understand slavery - I know what it means. What's being talked about on this thread is not real slavery. It's a type of slavery. 

Want to live like a slave? Then break into this country and find out. Want to stop living like a slave? Then self-deport. 

2, Sorry, pervert, but they always have a choice.  

3. I like what Tony Robbins had to say about it. He said "You always have a choice"; illegal aliens ALWAYS have a choice. So, following from that, the ignorance of you and the rest of the border erasing cultists, are f*cking liars. There is no taking away from humanity because illegals always have a choice. 

YOU argue for illegal immigration, therefore, YOU are guilty of treason. Get it? 

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by Deluge

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Fun fact side note, the:Ies that would eventually become Canada actually had a long like that back in the day. Slavery was technically legal, but only if the slave agreed to it. They had to have the right to leave at any time. Not "if they save up and buy their freedom' or the like, literally just "Yeah i'm outta here" "ok thanks for all the cotton" sort of thing.   

Slavery was shortly after that abolished and of course it was banned in all british colonies long before Canada was born but i always read about that and hear Indigo Montoya saying "Slavery. this word, i do not think it means what you think it does..."

Slavery can have multiple meanings: "I'm a slave to my job", for instance.

In this context, the word slavery can be used as a deterrent. "If you break into this country and are caught, you will engage in slave labor until you decide to leave the country". 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Slavery can have multiple meanings: "I'm a slave to my job", for instance.

 

Sure.  It has often been said that language is a stupid way to communicate just because of things like that   "drive thru window". Turns out they don't mean that. 

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

In this context, the word slavery can be used as a deterrent. "If you break into this country and are caught, you will engage in slave labor until you decide to leave the country". 

Sounds more like indentured servitude to me, but I suppose it doesn't advance the discussion to nitpick the semantics

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

1. Sure.  It has often been said that language is a stupid way to communicate just because of things like that   "drive thru window". Turns out they don't mean that. 

2. Sounds more like indentured servitude to me, but I suppose it doesn't advance the discussion to nitpick the semantics

1. Excellent point. Being literal could cost a truck load of money, and could also be potentially deadly. 

2. I'm sure your right, but I do like using the word "slavery" as a deterrent. 

 

[User]

On 11/18/2025 at 4:44 PM, Radiorum said:

I do not support illegal entry into the country. But I recognize a human when I see one.

You. Are. A. Liar. 

Things you have said:

" Trump has created an enemy for you. He has made you believe that illegal immigrants are a threat to the nation. But they aren't."

In several threads, you have defended illegal immigration and criticized enforcement efforts. 

 

[John Stone]

there is no question that slavery was the engine that built central / south America, southern North America. 

[Radiorum]

11 hours ago, User said:

You. Are. A. Liar. 

Things you have said:

" Trump has created an enemy for you. He has made you believe that illegal immigrants are a threat to the nation. But they aren't."

In several threads, you have defended illegal immigration and criticized enforcement efforts. 

 

That is not a defense of illegal immigration. It's recognizing that the way Trump has characterized illegal immigrants is not a reflection of reality, and he has done so to keep you occupied with hate while he loots the country.

A person may have no support for crime while at the same time recognizing the inherent dignity and worth of every human being. These two things can happen at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[User]

40 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

That is not a defense of illegal immigration. It's recognizing that the way Trump has characterized illegal immigrants is not a reflection of reality, and he has done so to keep you occupied with hate while he loots the country.

A person may have no support for crime while at the same time recognizing the inherent dignity and worth of every human being. These two things can happen at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

This doesn’t explain your defense of illegal immigration and opposition to basic law enforcement efforts in repeated threads.

You. Are. A. Liar.

But let’s clear the air then, go ahead and confirm:

Do you support ICE and their law enforcement efforts to deport illegal immigrants?

 

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

 

That is not a defense of illegal immigration. It's recognizing that the way Trump has characterized illegal immigrants is not a reflection of reality, and he has done so to keep you occupied with hate while he loots the country.

A person may have no support for crime while at the same time recognizing the inherent dignity and worth of every human being. These two things can happen at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

The one thing that Trump did get right was closing the border. I applaud him for that - but he is going way too far, his actions are a losing political  gambit - soon(??) his actions will be undeniably fascist. 

[gatomontes99]

37 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The one thing that Trump did get right was closing the border. I applaud him for that - but he is going way too far, his actions are a losing political  gambit - soon(??) his actions will be undeniably fascist. 

Oh gawd. Fascist? Really? Just because you don't agree with it does bot mean it is fascist. 

[John Stone]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh gawd. Fascist? Really? Just because you don't agree with it does bot mean it is fascist. 

 

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh gawd. Fascist? Really? Just because you don't agree with it does bot mean it is fascist. 

 

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh gawd. Fascist? Really? Just because you don't agree with it does bot mean it is fascist. 

 

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh gawd. Fascist? Really? Just because you don't agree with it does bot mean it is fascist. 

I didn't say I didn't agree with it per se - I implied that it was bad optics. This is a democracy - more the pity? 

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, John Stone said:

I didn't say I didn't agree with it per se - I implied that it was bad optics. This is a democracy - more the pity? 

Not agreeing with someone's actions is fine but please don't call the said actions undeniably fascist because of so-called bad optics.

[gatomontes99]

10 minutes ago, John Stone said:

 

 

 

I didn't say I didn't agree with it per se - I implied that it was bad optics. This is a democracy - more the pity? 

People are dying because of flippant use of the word fascist. 

[John Stone]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

People are dying because of flippant use of the word fascist. 

............ same could be said about communism, authoritarian regimes, Islam, Catholicism, Zionism .......... are can become political wedge issues. .............. fear is the driving political force. 

Fascism describes an ideology - the actions of those that follow that ideology are fascists - they are not necessarily evil. 

I really don't think Trump knows a great deal about global history - that is not said as a criticism - many don't, but the many vote?  In a democracy the optics can have a huge effect politically. 

Trump is being cast as a fascist - that is the perception - perception is reality  in politics. 

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, John Stone said:

............ same could be said about communism, authoritarian regimes, Islam, Catholicism, Zionism .......... are can become political wedge issues. .............. fear is the driving political force. 

Name one. 

 

9 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Fascism describes an ideology - the actions of those that follow that ideology are fascists - they are not necessarily evil. 

Bullshit. The entire point of using the word fascist is to dehumanize people by implying they are evil. 

 

10 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Trump is being cast as a fascist - that is the perception - perception is reality  in politics. 

Which is why people are dying because of flippant use of that word.