User Posted October 24, 2025 Report Posted October 24, 2025 On 10/20/2025 at 10:41 PM, robosmith said: The next major step to FASCISM This is starting to be like the climate change alarmism I’ve heard for the past 30 years. It’s always almost TOO LATE! OMG if we don’t act now! You guys have been screaming he is Hitler and already a fascist for so long now… ROFL Quote
Hodad Posted October 24, 2025 Report Posted October 24, 2025 15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: No. You claimed this EO made groups DTOs. It does not and you proved that to be true. That is a lie. I am fully aware of the relationship between the EOs, hence why I accurately said this: "2. Did Trump issue an EO that assumed the authority to designate domestic terrorist organizations? Yes." 15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: It is your contention that the President shouldn't direct law enforcement to stop people from killing each other over politics? Are you saying the president can't pursue terrorism groups just because they are in our borders? Is that what you want hang your ideological identity on? My contentions have been clearly stated. 1. The POTUS dos not have the authority to designate domestic terrorist organizations 2. This follow-up EO, in combination with the claimed authority to designate DTO on a whim, creates a directive for law enforcement to investigate anyone who supports beliefs that Trump want's to target. Do I need to list them again? It's worse--broader and more explicit--than McCarthyism. 15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: https://cdn.mrc.org/2023-05/DHSTVTPReport.pdf ^^That is hot garbage. I'm accepting this as your concession that you cannot show that Biden made any such designation. If you could have you would have linked it. 15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: I missed the part where they listed a specific group. Thanks for proving me correct...again. ^^This response isn't even vaguely sensical. You said: "There is no authority given to just seek out a single entity." And I pointed out that, indeed, as the quoted portion of the EO demonstrates, it specifically directs the JTTS to investigate institutional and individual funders--among other types of support. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 24, 2025 Report Posted October 24, 2025 2 hours ago, Hodad said: My contentions have been clearly stated. 1. The POTUS dos not have the authority to designate domestic terrorist organizations Biden did it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/3476377/biden-doj-protesting-parents-as-domestic-terrorists/ They literally labeled parents, questioning school board policies, domestic terrorists. Biden did it: https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-report-details-extent-fbis-weaponization-law-enforcement-against They labeled Catholic churches extremist domestic terrorists organizations for opposing abortion. Your outrage is the only thing that has changed. Well, that and the fact that Biden was going after people for disagreeing with him and Trump is going after people that are killing people, looting businesses and burning down businesses and police stations. As for Trump's EO, it clearly states that law enforcement should investigate and prosecute political violence. I am not mad about that. If some Proud Boys get picked up for trying to kill a liberal, good. If some ANTIFA get picked up for planning another attack on ICE, great. This EO aims to do that and I have no anger over it. Why do you? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted October 24, 2025 Report Posted October 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Biden did it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/3476377/biden-doj-protesting-parents-as-domestic-terrorists/ They literally labeled parents, questioning school board policies, domestic terrorists. Biden did it: https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-report-details-extent-fbis-weaponization-law-enforcement-against They labeled Catholic churches extremist domestic terrorists organizations for opposing abortion. You are lying. That's why you are linking to garbage news and Republican press releases rather than an EO--both of which STILL not say what you claim. You can't point to any such designation because you made it up. There is no authority for a POTUS to designate domestic terrorist organizations, nor have any done so prior to Trump's power grab. 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Your outrage is the only thing that has changed. Well, that and the fact that Biden was going after people for disagreeing with him and Trump is going after people that are killing people, looting businesses and burning down businesses and police stations. More blatant lying. You are profoundly dishonest. 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: As for Trump's EO, it clearly states that law enforcement should investigate and prosecute political violence. I am not mad about that. If some Proud Boys get picked up for trying to kill a liberal, good. If some ANTIFA get picked up for planning another attack on ICE, great. This EO aims to do that and I have no anger over it. Why do you? It says a LOT more than that and you know it. I'd quote it again, but if you're still lying about it after 4 or 5 quotes it's not ignorance, it's mendacity. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 24, 2025 Author Report Posted October 24, 2025 18 minutes ago, Hodad said: You are lying. That's why you are linking to garbage news and Republican press releases rather than an EO--both of which STILL not say what you claim. You can't point to any such designation because you made it up. There is no authority for a POTUS to designate domestic terrorist organizations, nor have any done so prior to Trump's power grab. More blatant lying. You are profoundly dishonest. It says a LOT more than that and you know it. I'd quote it again, but if you're still lying about it after 4 or 5 quotes it's not ignorance, it's mendacity. I learned months ago how dishonest gato is which is why he's on my ignore list. Waste of time to "debate" anyone so dishonest, like gato, CdnLIAR and LUser. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 24, 2025 Report Posted October 24, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hodad said: You are lying. That's why you are linking to garbage news and Republican press releases rather than an EO--both of which STILL not say what you claim. You can't point to any such designation because you made it up. There is no authority for a POTUS to designate domestic terrorist organizations, nor have any done so prior to Trump's power grab. I quoted articles with links to actual FBI emails and documents. You just choose to ignore it because you would rather feed your TDS than face reality. 1 hour ago, Hodad said: More blatant lying. You are profoundly dishonest. I gave you documents that prove my point. You gave me nothing. 1 hour ago, Hodad said: It says a LOT more than that and you know it. I'd quote it again, but if you're still lying about it after 4 or 5 quotes it's not ignorance, it's mendacity. This document has two primary sections, why and how. The why is section 1 and the how is section 2 and 3. You quote 1 when you want to blame Trump for targeting a group but 2 and 3 when you want to talk about the enforcement/how. The 2 and 3 never mention a specific group and don't direct law enforcement to target specific groups. Edited October 24, 2025 by gatomontes99 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Waste of time to "debate" anyone so dishonest, like gato, CdnLIAR and LUser. I am not sure I can even remember a time you tried to debate anyone. You put people like me on ignore because you are incapable of engaging in a debate with me as I pick apart all your BS. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 27, 2025 Report Posted October 27, 2025 Oh look! Its working! 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted October 29, 2025 Report Posted October 29, 2025 Still working: Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted October 30, 2025 Report Posted October 30, 2025 Still working: CBS: Justice Department announces charges against 10 people accused of violence toward officers during anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2025 Report Posted November 4, 2025 (edited) On 10/21/2025 at 9:29 PM, Hodad said: On the one hand, you say that EOs don't create law, but on the other, you've just endorsed an EO which claims for the executive authority which has neither constitutional nor statutory basis. You might wanna figure that out. And someone whose lies and rhetoric incited the worst political violence since the civil war--and then pardoned the perpetrators--clearly is *not* concerned about divisive language as a whole. Wait a sec, are you saying that Obama somehow managed to sign another executive order? Is he trying to incite another 4 years of racial but "mostly peaceful protest" violence? Edited November 4, 2025 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2025 Report Posted November 4, 2025 On 10/27/2025 at 10:22 AM, gatomontes99 said: Oh look Its working! "How are the Dems supposed to get rid of the Charlie Kirks and Pam Bondis of the world if they can't put prices on their heads? THIS IS ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!" - robo Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted November 5, 2025 Author Report Posted November 5, 2025 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: "How are the Dems supposed to get rid of the Charlie Kirks and Pam Bondis of the world if they can't put prices on their heads? THIS IS ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!" - robo YOU'RE LYING AGAIN. You always get DESPERATE when PROVEN WRONG. 🤮 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 5, 2025 Report Posted November 5, 2025 21 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOU'RE LYING AGAIN. You always get DESPERATE when PROVEN WRONG. 🤮 Well, what was a lie? 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted November 5, 2025 Report Posted November 5, 2025 31 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOU'RE LYING AGAIN. You always get DESPERATE when PROVEN WRONG. 🤮 Like you always run away like the coward you are when you are proven wrong? Quote
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