Liberals spent YEARS calling Trump a monster, a fascist, a threat to democracy Then a new poll asked: “Was it appropriate to praise Trump?”

[CdnFox]

 

The liberals and their supporters are the biggest hypocrites on the entire planet. 

Red Leader Carney can do no wrong.  If he says elbows up, then it's the best idea ever!!! If he says elbows down trousers down knees bent then "thank god it's about time". 

How do these people live with themselves?

 

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

How do these people live with themselves?

Speaking for myself, and as a Khmer Orange supporter, I'm still LMAO recalling how you people routinely associated Mr Socks with Hitler. It wasn't nearly as hypocritical as it was utterly ridiculous.

And Hitler is probably still spinning in his grave at the association.

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Speaking for myself, and as a Khmer Orange supporter, I'm still LMAO recalling how you people routinely associated Mr Socks with Hitler.

I don't recall ever saying that Trudeau was Hitler even once. Are you sure you're not thinking of the voices in your head? They come up with some pretty strange stuff

There's no doubt he was a bit of a dictator, when does not call in the military to deal with bouncy castles unless one is a bit of a dictator. But that's not the same as Hitler

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And Hitler is probably still spinning in his grave at the association.

LOL well I'll have to concede that one to you. 

[ExFlyer]

Not sure what poll this was and by who it was taken.

 Also, am not sure why you say " liberals and their supporters are the biggest hypocrites on the entire planet.".  Only 23% said it was appropriate, whereas 22% of the total Canadians said it was. (24% NDP and 21% BQ). 57% of cpc said is was appropriate or were not sure/did not know.

Secondly, it is appropriate not to pi$$ off Trump, so being non committal and non critical with him is the wise thing to do as most other world leaders have been.

 

 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Not sure what poll this was and by who it was taken.

 

 

Sorry, thought the source for the poll was in there, my bad 

Carney, Trump & waning Canadian confidence: Warm words in Oval Office do little for trade deal optimism - Angus Reid Institute

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 Also, am not sure why you say " liberals and their supporters are the biggest hypocrites on the entire planet.".  Only 23% said it was appropriate, whereas 22% of the total Canadians said it was. (24% NDP and 21% BQ). 57% of cpc said is was appropriate or were not sure/did not know.

I think you may have read that backwards, the blue is "appropriate".  So 56 percent of liberals say it was entirely appropriate for carney to praise trump. ( i know, every poll we post here has super tiny print, easy to make a mistake)

During the election the liberals were entirely of the opposite position and have been saying trump is the biggest scum in the world for ages.  Suddenly Carney gets in and starts gushing about what a great leader trump is and the liberals and their supporters think it's the greatest idea in the world and he's right to do so. 

That would be the hypocrisy. 

 

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Secondly, it is appropriate not to pi$$ off Trump, so being non committal and non critical with him is the wise thing to do as most other world leaders have been.

Many other leaders have criticized him to his face (macron) and even if you're not going to criticize him, there's no need to praise or gush over him and say what a fantastic leader he is and how awesome his leadership has been. 

And it's definitely not working. New tariffs go into effect today and our economy has been driven to recession, and carney has given up everything he wants for no gains 

Now, we can discuss the merits of that strategy and whether or not it's better to be like carney and roll over and show our belly to get the best deal or whether it's better to be like ford wants and retaliate on all fronts and risk his anger to force his hand.   But - there's little doubt what he ran on, and how the liberal supporters said that 'elbows up' was the only way and how PP would be the one to cave to trump. 

So. Hypocrisy.  

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[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry, thought the source for the poll was in there, my bad 

Carney, Trump & waning Canadian confidence: Warm words in Oval Office do little for trade deal optimism - Angus Reid Institute

I think you may have read that backwards, the blue is "appropriate".  So 56 percent of liberals say it was entirely appropriate for carney to praise trump. ( i know, every poll we post here has super tiny print, easy to make a mistake)

During the election the liberals were entirely of the opposite position and have been saying trump is the biggest scum in the world for ages.  Suddenly Carney gets in and starts gushing about what a great leader trump is and the liberals and their supporters think it's the greatest idea in the world and he's right to do so. 

That would be the hypocrisy. 

 

Many other leaders have criticized him to his face (macron) and even if you're not going to criticize him, there's no need to praise or gush over him and say what a fantastic leader he is and how awesome his leadership has been. 

And it's definitely not working. New tariffs go into effect today and our economy has been driven to recession, and carney has given up everything he wants for no gains 

Now, we can discuss the merits of that strategy and whether or not it's better to be like carney and roll over and show our belly to get the best deal or whether it's better to be like ford wants and retaliate on all fronts and risk his anger to force his hand.   But - there's little doubt what he ran on, and how the liberal supporters said that 'elbows up' was the only way and how PP would be the one to cave to trump. 

So. Hypocrisy.  

Bottom line is that Canadians are unsure of the question. Even CPC are 57%are inappropriate/not sure.

There is no "hypocrisy", there is no "practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; ". Things have changed and continue to change every day when dealing with Trump and the strategy has to change with it.

New tariffs form orange man happen every day to everyone, not just Canada. Trying to minimize them to Canada is the key.  "Canada is not officially in a recession, as a recession is technically defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, and the economy has shown some signs of growth in recent months."

My point was/is, Carney is not praising or gushing to Trump. He in fact is not saying much (pro or con) and that is to prevent Trump from having a hissy fit as he so often and regularly does.

I think , in this situation, silence is golden. Don't pi$$ off the bully.

Oh and"elbows up" is really getting old and means nothing any more

 

Edited October 15, 2025 by ExFlyer

[herbie]

Oh why waste your bandwidth on people that know shit about statistics and polling, they just wanna post anything that could possibly make the Liberala or Canada look bad.
You can't teach people who don't wanna learn shit it's too hard. Just let others figure out how it works and cherry pick what you wanna hear.

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Bottom line is that Canadians are unsure of the question. Even CPC are 57%are inappropriate/not sure.

 

Bottom line is that liberals aren't. More than half agree with it. And that's where the hypocrisy comes in

45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

There is no "hypocrisy", there is no "practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; "

They're absolutely is.

You cannot one day claim that you are electing somebody because of their belief that they will behave in a certain fashion and commit to certain values and then within a month or two watch them take action that is in direct violation of those principles and applaud it. That is literally the definition of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which the behavior does not conform. They insisted elbows up, and that trump was a bad person. Carney went elbows down and insists that trump is a good person and liberals are applauding him for it

It's not even a discussion, this is recorded fact at this point

47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

My point was/is, Carney is not praising or gushing to Trump

He literally is an absolutely everybody has noted it. He's called him a transformational president, he has said that the G7 can't be led without him, he said that he's leading a path to the future, and a dozen other major complements there aren't just nice things to say but are gushing endorsements of the guy.

You can't make this go away just by lying about what he has done and said. He has absolutely been fawning over trump in every way possible including over the Gaza deal and liberals are applauding this effort despite the fact that they claim they hate trump.

 

[ExFlyer]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Bottom line is that liberals aren't. More than half agree with it. And that's where the hypocrisy comes in

They're absolutely is.

You cannot one day claim that you are electing somebody because of their belief that they will behave in a certain fashion and commit to certain values and then within a month or two watch them take action that is in direct violation of those principles and applaud it. That is literally the definition of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which the behavior does not conform. They insisted elbows up, and that trump was a bad person. Carney went elbows down and insists that trump is a good person and liberals are applauding him for it

It's not even a discussion, this is recorded fact at this point

He literally is an absolutely everybody has noted it. He's called him a transformational president, he has said that the G7 can't be led without him, he said that he's leading a path to the future, and a dozen other major complements there aren't just nice things to say but are gushing endorsements of the guy.

You can't make this go away just by lying about what he has done and said. He has absolutely been fawning over trump in every way possible including over the Gaza deal and liberals are applauding this effort despite the fact that they claim they hate trump.

 

Yes you can elect someone based on the events of the day. Thing is, when things change as. dramatically have, so must the tactics.

I am not , in any way , lying about anything, I am discussing and giving my take on things without becoming accusatory and belligerent.. I do not hold a grudge against Carney. I believe he is doing the best he can under the thing of orange man, as are most word leaders. Not arguing with a bully is the best tactic. 

You can believe what you wish. I have stated my opinion.

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Yes you can elect someone based on the events of the day. Thing is, when things change as. dramatically have, so must the tactics.

 

Nothing changed in the slightest. Trump is still trump and carney was already caving to him before the election was even finished.

Do liberals somehow now think that trump is a great guy?

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I am not , in any way , lying about anything, I am discussing and giving my take on things without becoming accusatory and belligerent..

Okay fair enough, I acknowledge your efforts and respect them

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I do not hold a grudge against Carney. I believe he is doing the best he can under the thing of orange man, as are most word leaders. Not arguing with a bully is the best tactic. 

 

But like it or not that's still hypocrisy. You claimed you believed something entirely different just a few months ago and insisted that PP would be the one to bow to trump and was a terrible person as a result. 

That IS hypocrisy.  I was originally referring to liberals in general but seeing as you've made it about yourself more you ARE going to have to address the fact you changed your morals and beliefs despite NO change in the circumstances. Trump today is the same trump he always was. 

If PP had done this  the liberals would be railing night and day about how terrible it was and that they "knew he would cave and was trump's man" etc. 

It's fine to have an opinion but people are judged on their behavior as well and it is fair to say that the liberals insisted one thing was true and then immediately switched their tune in order to support their leader even though it's the exact opposite of what they believed just yesterday

[ExFlyer]

55 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nothing changed in the slightest. ....

If PP had done this  .....

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If you do not think things have changed...well, OK. LOL

Yeah but PP did not and will never have the chance so, so your point is moot.

 

 

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

If you do not think things have changed...well, OK. LOL

 

 

Well enlighten me. What has changed? Trump is the same trump he was when carney was running for office, he's saying the same things now he was saying then, In fact back then he was constantly going on about the 51st state and now he only brings it up occasionally so things have got better. He's the same irrational stubborn person he was back then there's no surprises.

So, it's changed?

52 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yeah but PP did not and will never have the chance so, so your point is moot.

No, the point is about the hypocrisy. And you just agreed with it so as you say you agree that the liberals are being a hypocrites and whatever had a different story had Poilievre been the person doing the same activity

So, my original point that liberals are the largest hypocrites in Canada remains