I was on the biggest solar farm in Canada with 1.5 million panels

[herbie]

Every other new home here is adding solar. On the 54th parallel where it snows shitloads. It reduces use of grid power, but some of these plowboys can't comprehend only reducing consumption. They're brains are stuck on shutting the power and gas pumps right off tomorrow morning.

If my power bill wasn't only $65/mo. I'd consider panels too.
Our friends ran 100% solar for two years until they saved up for the poles they needed to connect to the main line. Then they dumped the wood furnace for pellet and baseboard heat.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Prove me wrong, spend your money on a solar roof then. See if you’re ever going to make that money back for the life of your roof in the time you’re going to own it. Everything else you wrote boils down to excuses. 

Eco-warriors like yourselves are no better than snake oil salesmen and should be treated as such. 

I live in a townhouse, so I have no control over the roof. 

If I owned a big house, I would def put solar on the roof like my sister did, who is being PAID for electricity she supplies to the grid. Her electric bill is $12/mo connection charge on a big house with the 2xAC running non-stop all summer long.

Like I SAID BEFORE. Duh 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Every other new home here is adding solar. On the 54th parallel where it snows shitloads. It reduces use of grid power, but some of these plowboys can't comprehend only reducing consumption. They're brains are stuck on shutting the power and gas pumps right off tomorrow morning.

If my power bill wasn't only $65/mo. I'd consider panels too.
Our friends ran 100% solar for two years until they saved up for the poles they needed to connect to the main line. Then they dumped the wood furnace for pellet and baseboard heat.

I'm in the industry, I haven't seen one home add solar as a new build.

So let me guess, there's one new building in your area and they put some sort of solar on it did they? Because I absolutely guarantee you almost homes I don't know don't have solar

 

And the idea that it increases the value of your home is actually probably not true. People find those systems confusing and daunting and they worry about maintenance and other issues that they don't understand. I think he would be very lucky if it didn't lose value

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I'm in the industry, I haven't seen one home add solar as a new build.

So let me guess, there's one new building in your area and they put some sort of solar on it did they? Because I absolutely guarantee you almost homes I don't know don't have solar

 

And the idea that it increases the value of your home is actually probably not true. People find those systems confusing and daunting and they worry about maintenance and other issues that they don't understand. I think he would be very lucky if it didn't lose value

My equipment vendor is using solar panel as a roofing product, not even wiring it up for electricity. Because solar panel are now cheaper than galvanized steel sheets LMAO! But yes there are other risk associated with solar panel, hail damage, maintenance, fire risk especially if paired to lithium battery. Inverters are not a forever device, it will need to be replaced at a later date, think of it alongside the line of an appliance like your heat pump. The silicone carbide IGBT do wear out with use. Bottom line, everyone considering solar need to evaluate if the math works for them. The big players are no exception, they just deal with larger numbers. The eco fanatics propaganda of saving the planet is what’s dishonest about it. Not only is the carbon math wrong, it’s used as a justification for overpaying for solar products that doesn’t make sense for their geographic region in the first place!

Edited October 15, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, paxamericana said:

My equipment vendor is using solar panel as a roofing product, not even wiring it up for electricity. Because solar panel are now cheaper than galvanized steel sheets LMAO! But yes there are other risk associated with solar panel, hail damage, maintenance, fire risk especially if paired to lithium battery. Inverters are not a forever device, it will need to be replaced at a later date, think of it alongside the line of an appliance like your heat pump. The silicone carbide IGBT do wear out with use. Bottom line, everyone considering solar need to evaluate if the math works for them. The big players are no exception, they just deal with larger numbers. The eco fanatics propaganda of saving the planet is what’s dishonest about it. 

Exactly.

It tends to be a habit on the left that if something comes along that's a clever idea and can help a little bit they grab onto it and suddenly insist that it is the final solution and all must bow before it.

Normal people look at electric cars and say that's a clever idea and it will be really useful for a small percentage of the population and market, The leftists lose their minds and insist that everybody has to switch to this within the next 5 years or be shot because it's so perfect

Normal people look at solar power and say it's a clever idea and if used properly it could really help reduce the strain on the electric system from standard generating practices which would be good. The left says everybody including those who live in Nome Alaska should be 100% solar no exceptions   

So there can be helpful. If we ever crack the battery storage problem it could be game changing. But it's not any replacement for regular power generation right now, at best it's a supplement.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, paxamericana said:

My equipment vendor is using solar panel as a roofing product, not even wiring it up for electricity. Because solar panel are now cheaper than galvanized steel sheets LMAO! But yes there are other risk associated with solar panel, hail damage, maintenance, fire risk especially if paired to lithium battery. Inverters are not a forever device, it will need to be replaced at a later date, think of it alongside the line of an appliance like your heat pump. The silicone carbide IGBT do wear out with use. Bottom line, everyone considering solar need to evaluate if the math works for them. The big players are no exception, they just deal with larger numbers. The eco fanatics propaganda of saving the planet is what’s dishonest about it. Not only is the carbon math wrong, it’s used as a justification for overpaying for solar products that doesn’t make sense for their geographic region in the first place!

So when and where did you get your PhD in climate science that makes you believe you're qualified to dispute the judgement of the vast majority of CLIMATE SCIENTISTS? LMAO

Probably you DID NOT and just have a vivid imagination that you are an expert. Dunning and Kruger would be proud of you.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So when and where did you get your PhD in climate science that makes you believe you're qualified to dispute the judgement of the vast majority of CLIMATE SCIENTISTS? LMAO

 

Why don't you post the specific research you feel refutes his case? I mean it must exist you keep referencing it so go ahead and present the research and we can look at it

Unless you're lying and there really isn't any that says what you think it does

[LinkSoul60]

18 hours ago, paxamericana said:

My equipment vendor is using solar panel as a roofing product, not even wiring it up for electricity. Because solar panel are now cheaper than galvanized steel sheets LMAO! But yes there are other risk associated with solar panel, hail damage, maintenance, fire risk especially if paired to lithium battery. Inverters are not a forever device, it will need to be replaced at a later date, think of it alongside the line of an appliance like your heat pump. The silicone carbide IGBT do wear out with use. Bottom line, everyone considering solar need to evaluate if the math works for them. The big players are no exception, they just deal with larger numbers. The eco fanatics propaganda of saving the planet is what’s dishonest about it. Not only is the carbon math wrong, it’s used as a justification for overpaying for solar products that doesn’t make sense for their geographic region in the first place!

Is it a prerequisite of the Maga cult to ignorantly deny anything and everything that has to do with clean energy, the climate and vaccines?  Get your head out of your ass... Solar panels are tried, tested and proven technology that has been around for decades.  There is as much risk with a solar panel as there is with bad or faulty wiring. Hail damage is non-existent unless the hail is bigger than 1' in diameter then most everything else the hail hits like cars is going to get damaged.  The maintenance of cleaning a solar panel is not insurmountable... think cleaning your windows.  Lithium battery storage adds no more fire hazard than the furnace in your home and whatever you're trying to talk about with silicone carbide is just that...whatever.  

Here is where you minions always stay on script and go sideways...  Anything having to do with clean energy of course has to be because we're all concerned with saving the planet.  There is a lot of validity to that but adding solar panels is also a cost benefit to the homeowner with typical break even on the investment in 6 - 10 years then after that, it's 'free' electricity.  It add's value to the home for resale and yes, it does help the environment. Is that a bad thing?

 

Edited October 15, 2025 by LinkSoul60

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Is it a prerequisite of the Maga cult to ignorantly deny anything and everything that has to do with clean energy, the climate and vaccines?  Get your head out of your ass... Solar panels are tried, tested and proven technology that has been around for decades.  There is as much risk with a solar panel as there is with bad or faulty wiring. Hail damage is non-existent unless the hail is bigger than 1' in diameter then most everything else the hail hits like cars is going to get damaged.  The maintenance of cleaning a solar panel is not insurmountable... think cleaning your windows.  Lithium battery storage adds no more fire hazard than the furnace in your home and whatever you're trying to talk about with silicone carbide is just that...whatever.  

Here is where you minions always stay on script and go sideways...  Anything having to do with clean energy of course has to be because we're all concerned with saving the planet.  There is a lot of validity to that but adding solar panels is also a cost benefit to the homeowner with typical break even on the investment in 6 - 10 years then after that, it's 'free' electricity.  It add's value to the home for resale and yes, it does help the environment. Is that a bad thing?

 

Nothing intelligent to add so just insults. 

Conservatives believe in REAL solutions, liberals promote fake solutions. 

Adding solar panels to most homes in canada is not a cost benefit.  It is for a small number of homes, and that's it. 

Otherwise every home would have them. 

Where they do make sense they should be used. But they don't make sense everywhere by a long shot. 

But because you're an ingorant liberal if it works in one place it must work in EVERY place and we should force people to do it by law!!!!  Huzzah!!!!

There are a small number of homes who would have a VERY small benefit and an even smaller number that would have a substantial benefit.  And even then it's supplementary to primary power.