Prayer - What is it?

Barquentine · April 15

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And yet prayer on top of all of those things will still improve it. So either way if you ignore prayer you're not as sharp as you could be.

Proof?

CrakHoBarbie · April 15

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

if you ignore prayer you're not as sharp as you could be.

Let me ask, what other nonexistent entities do you pray to?

Gremlins?

The tooth fairy?

Leprechauns?

Do they all build your neuroplasticity?

Do tell.

John Johnston · April 15

42 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Let me ask, what other nonexistent entities do you pray to?

Gremlins?

The tooth fairy?

Leprechauns?

Do they all build your neuroplasticity?

Do tell.

Hillbilly Vance can tell us all about Prayer and God. Afterall he schooled the Pope on moral issues during the so called Turning point rally the other day. I would like to know what these guys are smoking so normal people can avoid it.

John Johnston · April 15

3 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Hillbilly Vance can tell us all about Prayer and God. Afterall he schooled the Pope on moral issues during the so called Turning point rally the other day. I would like to know what these guys are smoking so normal people can avoid it.

You forgot Santa Claws.

CrakHoBarbie · April 15

52 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

You forgot Santa Claws.

Well, Saint Nick was a real person, not just a fairytale.

Thats why I didnt mention him.

John Johnston · April 15

22 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Well, Saint Nick was a real person, not just a fairytale.

Thats why I didnt mention him.

Ahh, right, right. I kins forgot he was in deed a real person. Oops.

But in my defense, all I wanted from Santa was a Holodeck and a Starship. And did I get it? NO!

All I got for Xmas last year was Shingles and 72in plasma TV. Cheap!

CdnFox · April 15

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Proof?

Proof i'm wrong?

CrakHoBarbie · April 15

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Ahh, right, right. I kins forgot he was in deed a real person. Oops.

But in my defense, all I wanted from Santa was a Holodeck and a Starship. And did I get it? NO!

All I got for Xmas last year was Shingles and 72in plasma TV. Cheap!

The shingles is not a good present.

Did you re-gift it to someone else?

After I saw what it did to family members, I rushed out and got the vaccine. Even the vaccine hurts.

CrakHoBarbie · April 15

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Proof i'm wrong?

Dude, you are unbearably stup1d.

How do you stand being around yourself.

I'll bet if you didnt have this RW echo chamber to blather around in, you'd have no one to talk to.

John Johnston · April 15

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

The shingles is not a good present.

Did you re-gift it to someone else?

After I saw what it did to family members, I rushed out and got the vaccine. Even the vaccine hurts.

Ya, Shingles is no fun at all. I always thought that kind of stuff only happened to other people in commercials. Apparently not. :)

CrakHoBarbie · April 15

Just now, John Johnston said:

Ya, Shingles is no fun at all. I always thought that kind of stuff only happened to other people in commercials. Apparently not.

I have two family members who got it. One of them got it on their face.

Luckily, it didnt scar, but man, that was terrifying.

Im so sorry you had to go through that.

And, im so happy I got the vaccine before I got it.

John Johnston · April 15

14 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I have two family members who got it. One of them got it on their face.

Luckily, it didnt scar, but man, that was terrifying.

Im so sorry you had to go through that.

And, im so happy I got the vaccine before I got it.

Terrible. I have a friend that had it around his eyes and forehead, I was lucky enough to just get it on my back and legs, and it burned like a fire for five weeks.

CdnFox · April 15

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Dude, you are unbearably stup1d.

It was three words, if they confused you I don't know what to say other than your English teacher owes you an apology

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How do you stand being around yourself.

It's pretty easy. I'm fabulous so I'm great company

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I'll bet if you didnt have this RW echo chamber to blather around in, you'd have no one to talk to.

Well you're wrong, but you must be used to that by now. There's tons of people I talk to, I mostly come here for people like you. It's hard to find as many people even on other forums letter is daft as people like you and Robo and X flyer etc. I don't really come here to talk for the most part, I come here to laugh at the freaks. There are some good people and some good conversations to be had but for the most part your entertainment, you're not intellectually stimulating

Response to the very legitimate issues I raised was a picture of a monkey banging symbols together posted 20 different times That's funny to watch, like a cat chasing a laser pointed

CrakHoBarbie · April 16

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It was three words, if they confused you I don't know what to say other than your English teacher owes you an apology

It's pretty easy. I'm fabulous so I'm great company

Well you're wrong, but you must be used to that by now. There's tons of people I talk to, I mostly come here for people like you. It's hard to find as many people even on other forums letter is daft as people like you and Robo and X flyer etc. I don't really come here to talk for the most part, I come here to laugh at the freaks. There are some good people and some good conversations to be had but for the most part your entertainment, you're not intellectually stimulating

Response to the very legitimate issues I raised was a picture of a monkey banging symbols together posted 20 different times That's funny to watch, like a cat chasing a laser pointed

2 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Terrible. I have a friend that had it around his eyes and forehead, I was lucky enough to just get it on my back and legs, and it burned like a fire for five weeks.

Did you get the vaccine so it doesn't return?

CdnFox · April 16

4 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Awww, i made you have another hissy fit Well that's certainly not hard is it.

Barquentine · April 16

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Proof i'm wrong?

So you have no proof.

A lot of 'prayer' is just selfishness: "Oh, big man in the sky, let me win a lottery.' 'Oh, Giant Invisibleness, cure my cancer." In those cases a lot of people are disappointed and therefore worse off for 'praying'.

Pete Hegseth's prayers are actually evil. "Give them... overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy."

A lot of prayer is really meditation, repeating learned prayers.

Meditation actually clears the mind of desires and stress, thereby focusing and sharpening the mind.

John Johnston · April 16

12 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Did you get the vaccine so it doesn't return?

The second I was able. :)

SpankyMcFarland · April 16

I would see it as an expression of hope. Articulating our fears and desires is a step towards dealing with them.

CrakHoBarbie · April 16

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Awww, i made you have another hissy fit Well that's certainly not hard is it.

CrakHoBarbie · April 16

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I would see it as an expression of hope. Articulating our fears and desires is a step towards dealing with them.

Nicely said.

If it gives you comfort, than praise be the lord.

User · April 16

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So you have no proof.

A lot of 'prayer' is just selfishness: "Oh, big man in the sky, let me win a lottery.' 'Oh, Giant Invisibleness, cure my cancer." In those cases a lot of people are disappointed and therefore worse off for 'praying'.

Pete Hegseth's prayers are actually evil. "Give them... overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy."

A lot of prayer is really meditation, repeating learned prayers.

Meditation actually clears the mind of desires and stress, thereby focusing and sharpening the mind.

As I pointed out before, this is the ignorance of bigots like you mischaracterizing religion, specifically Christianity, with your own absurdly ignorant take on what prayer is.

CdnFox · April 17

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So you have no proof.

Do You have proof of that?

No?

Well then it seems like YOU who has no proof little guy

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

A lot of 'prayer' is just selfishness: "Oh, big man in the sky, let me win a lottery.'

Any proof of that?

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Pete Hegseth's prayers are actually evil. "Give them... overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy."

What proof do you have that praying for harm to come to those who deserve no mercy is evil?

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

A lot of prayer is really meditation, repeating learned prayers.

Lets see your proof. (also, pls provide proof that meditation is nothing more than repeating a phrase or mantra and nothing else)

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Meditation actually clears the mind of desires and stress, thereby focusing and sharpening the mind.

And Prayer induces neuroplasticity, strengthens neural pathways associated with focus, emotional regulation, and compassion while calming the brain's "fear center," the amygdala.

So there you go.

Barquentine · April 17

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What proof do you have that praying for harm to come to those who deserve no mercy is evil?

Christianity 101: All people deserve mercy. To say otherwise is un-Christian.

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Lets see your proof. (also, pls provide proof that meditation is nothing more than repeating a phrase or mantra and nothing else)

Here's some of mine. Where's yours?

(There are many kinds of meditation. Mantras are only part of some of them. Mantras are also a big part of prayer.)

AI: Scientific studies show that meditation, particularly mindfulness, induces structural and functional brain changes (neuroplasticity) that reduce stress, anxiety, and depression while improving attention, memory, and emotional regulation. Research indicates it lowers cortisol, decreases amygdala reactivity, and improves connectivity in brain regions linked to focus and emotional stability.

https://www.apa.org/topics/mindfulness/meditation

"Researchers reviewed more than 200 studies of mindfulness among healthy people and found mindfulness-based therapy was especially effective for reducing stress, anxiety, and depression. Mindfulness can also help treat people with specific problems including depression, pain, smoking, and addictionopens in new window. Some of the most promising research has looked at people with depression. Several studies have found, for example, that MBCT can significantly reduce relapseopens in new window in people who have had previous episodes of major depression.

What’s more, mindfulness-based interventions can improve physical health too. For example, mindfulness may reduce pain, fatigue, and stress in people with chronic pain. Other studies have found preliminary evidence that mindfulness might boost the immune system and help people recover more quickly from cold or flu. Harvard Gazette +7

https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm/pain/documents/meditation-facts.pdf

Many more that you can look up your self.

There are things prayer and meditation have in common (apart from the fact that a lot of prayer is meditation): The big money being made by by the Church and those making millions off the 'Mindfulness' industry. But the Church wins that contest hands down.