blackbird Posted August 9, 2025 Report Posted August 9, 2025 We witness on here people posting articles with fake claims by DHS about how they are ridding America of criminal "illegal aliens", but this is a gross exaggeration and misinformation. quote Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate Analysis of Texas arrest records indicates a consistent trend across violent, drug, property, and traffic offenses between 2012 and 2018. September 12, 2024 An NIJ-funded study examining data from the Texas Department of Public Safety estimated the rate at which undocumented immigrants are arrested for committing crimes. The study found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for property crimes. [1] The question of how often undocumented immigrants commit crimes is not easy to answer. Most previous research on crime commission by immigrant populations has been unable to differentiate undocumented immigrants from documented immigrants. As a result, most studies treat all immigrants as a uniform group, regardless of whether they are in the country legally. The estimates in this study come from Texas criminal records that include the immigration status of everyone arrested in the state from 2012 to 2018. These data enabled researchers to separate arrests for crimes committed by undocumented immigrants from those committed by documented immigrants and native-born U.S. citizens. (For more detail on the study’s data sources and methodology, see the sidebar “ What Makes the Texas Data Unique?”) The researchers tracked these three groups’ arrest rates across seven years (2012-2018) and examined specific types of crime, including homicides and other violent crimes. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate [2] They used 1/7 these arrest rates as proxies for the rates of crime commission for the three groups. It should be noted that arrest is a commonly used, but imperfect measure of crime that in part reflects law enforcement activity rather than actual offending rates. During this time, undocumented immigrants had the lowest offending rates overall for both total felony crime (see exhibit 1) and violent felony crime (see exhibit 2) compared to other groups. U.S.-born citizens had the highest offending rates overall for most crime types, with documented immigrants generally falling between the other two groups. Exhibit 1.Total felony crime offending rates in Texas for U.S.-born citizens, documented. unquote Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate | National Institute of Justice quote Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime. This stems largely from data constraints. Going beyond existing research, we utilize data from the Texas Department of Public Safety, which checks and records the immigration status of all arrestees throughout the state. Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years. Our findings help us understand why the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future. unquote Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas - PMC Crime rates lower among undocumented immigrants than US natives Immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born - Northwestern Now So if U.S. citizens are the ones committing more crimes, then maybe the answer is to find a place to send them outside the U.S. That would reduce the crime rate and possibly save taxpayers a lot of money. 1 Quote
User Posted August 9, 2025 Report Posted August 9, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, blackbird said: We witness on here people posting articles with fake claims by DHS about how they are ridding America of criminal "illegal aliens", but this is a gross exaggeration and misinformation. No exaggeration. ICE updates its X feed continually with all the drug dealers, rapists, human traffickers, pedophiles, etc, they are arresting and deporting. Edited August 9, 2025 by User Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 9, 2025 Report Posted August 9, 2025 This has been debunked sooooo many times. If you still believe this bullshit, you just want to live in a fantasy world. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted August 9, 2025 Report Posted August 9, 2025 (edited) Why does @blackbird want these people in America? Edited August 9, 2025 by User Quote
User Posted August 10, 2025 Report Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) Hey @blackbird, give us your home address, we can ship this guy up to live with you Edited August 10, 2025 by User Quote
blackbird Posted August 10, 2025 Author Report Posted August 10, 2025 " The data is a tally of every person booked by ICE from Oct. 1 through May 31, part of which was during the Biden administration. It shows a total of 185,042 people arrested and booked into ICE facilities during that time; 65,041 of them have been convicted of crimes. The most common categories of crimes they committed were immigration and traffic offenses. Almost half of the people currently in ICE custody have neither been convicted of nor charged with any crime, other ICE data shows." -NBC News It won't allow me to copy and paste the URL for some reason. Of the remaining ones taken into custody, most were convicted of traffic offences and immigration offences, which are not serious offences. They don't meet the definition of criminal offences. The attempt to portray this thing as arresting vast numbers of serious criminals is obviously a fake narrative to appease the MAGA base. So most of these people arrested were because of immigration and traffic offenses. This is obviously just an excuse to meet a quota of numbers of people deported. Very few murderers and rapists. Why not deport the murderers and rapists who are actually U.S. citizens? They would get rid of a lot of the serious criminals. They pay some of these little countries to accept these migrants. I am sure those countries would take U.S. citizens who were serious criminals if their countries received payment for it. This expensive Trump / MAGA deportation effort will not bring the crime rate down, but they will loose a lot of workers that pay taxes and contribute to the economy. Quote
User Posted August 10, 2025 Report Posted August 10, 2025 48 minutes ago, blackbird said: This expensive Trump / MAGA deportation effort will not bring the crime rate down, but they will loose a lot of workers that pay taxes and contribute to the economy. If this mass immigration is so great, why is Canada not doing it? Why are you not spending more time demanding this from your own country? Quote
Deluge Posted August 10, 2025 Report Posted August 10, 2025 Don't believe anyone who tells you illegal immigration isn't illegal immigration. They are f*cking liars and they hate the US - they defintely should be imprisoned for treason if they're living in this country. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2025 Report Posted August 11, 2025 On 8/9/2025 at 7:41 PM, blackbird said: We witness on here people posting articles with fake claims by DHS about how they are ridding America of criminal "illegal aliens", but this is a gross exaggeration and misinformation. quote Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate Analysis of Texas arrest records indicates a consistent trend across violent, drug, property, and traffic offenses between 2012 and 2018. September 12, 2024 An NIJ-funded study examining data from the Texas Department of Public Safety estimated the rate at which undocumented immigrants are arrested for committing crimes. The study found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for property crimes. [1] The question of how often undocumented immigrants commit crimes is not easy to answer. Most previous research on crime commission by immigrant populations has been unable to differentiate undocumented immigrants from documented immigrants. As a result, most studies treat all immigrants as a uniform group, regardless of whether they are in the country legally. The estimates in this study come from Texas criminal records that include the immigration status of everyone arrested in the state from 2012 to 2018. These data enabled researchers to separate arrests for crimes committed by undocumented immigrants from those committed by documented immigrants and native-born U.S. citizens. (For more detail on the study’s data sources and methodology, see the sidebar “ What Makes the Texas Data Unique?”) The researchers tracked these three groups’ arrest rates across seven years (2012-2018) and examined specific types of crime, including homicides and other violent crimes. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate [2] They used 1/7 these arrest rates as proxies for the rates of crime commission for the three groups. It should be noted that arrest is a commonly used, but imperfect measure of crime that in part reflects law enforcement activity rather than actual offending rates. During this time, undocumented immigrants had the lowest offending rates overall for both total felony crime (see exhibit 1) and violent felony crime (see exhibit 2) compared to other groups. U.S.-born citizens had the highest offending rates overall for most crime types, with documented immigrants generally falling between the other two groups. Exhibit 1.Total felony crime offending rates in Texas for U.S.-born citizens, documented. unquote Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate | National Institute of Justice quote Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime. This stems largely from data constraints. Going beyond existing research, we utilize data from the Texas Department of Public Safety, which checks and records the immigration status of all arrestees throughout the state. Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years. Our findings help us understand why the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future. unquote Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas - PMC Crime rates lower among undocumented immigrants than US natives Immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crimes than the U.S.-born - Northwestern Now So if U.S. citizens are the ones committing more crimes, then maybe the answer is to find a place to send them outside the U.S. That would reduce the crime rate and possibly save taxpayers a lot of money. Who cares what you believe? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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