CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 5 minutes ago, paxamericana said: There is an important point however that the growth were mainly driven by AI investment like data center, and related infrastructure. So not all sectors saw the same growth. well generally growth in any sector has an impact no the others if it's substantial, the job numbers will help tell the story there one way or another. You can never look at just one thing and get a clear picture. But still, not exactly proof of a perfect economy perhaps but a good sign and we'll also have to watch jobs and the gdp per capita and debt and inflation. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 On 9/2/2025 at 2:01 PM, paxamericana said: Trump is not wrong for taking a transactional approach to the NATO Alliance. Pay us and we will protect you. Trump is the ultimate SHYSTER. We make weapons in America, turn around and demand that Europeans buy them. It's no wonder why they don't like that deal. Quote
robosmith Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 18 minutes ago, paxamericana said: There is an important point however that the growth were mainly driven by AI investment like data center, and related infrastructure. So not all sectors saw the same growth. And AI is powering the HUGE SPIKE in energy INFLATION. 🤮 Quote
paxamericana Posted September 27, 2025 Author Report Posted September 27, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: And AI is powering the HUGE SPIKE in energy INFLATION. 🤮 It’s also driving the infrastructure investment that is needed to run AI power demand. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 17 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump is the ultimate SHYSTER. We make weapons in America, turn around and demand that Europeans buy them. It's no wonder why they don't like that deal. "TRUMP IS THE ZUCHINNI SATAN! HE LIKES AND ENCOURAGES SPIDERS! HE USED TO HAND OUT FRUIT CAKE HIS AUNT MADE AS HALLOWEEN TREATS! HE PREFERS GOLF TO THE MORE MANLY SPORT OF LAWN BOWLING! HE RAISED HIS KIDS TO BE RICH AND SUCCESSFUL WHICH JUST PROVES HOW MUCH HE HATES POOR PEOPLE!!!! @WestCanMan AND @Nationalist REPORT DIRECTLY TO TRUMP USING CRYPITIC PHRASES BUILT INTO THEIR POSTS SUCH AS 'THAT MAKES NO SENSE" AND "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW YOU RAVING LEFTIST' AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH THEY 'PRETEND' TO SAY TO ME. IT'S ALL ACTUALLY CODE FOR 'WE TAX THE GAYS AT MIDNIGHT!" I HATE HIM SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!! (waives fist angrily at passing cloud and glares at neighbor's cat as if daring it to vote republican) 3 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted September 28, 2025 Report Posted September 28, 2025 On 9/27/2025 at 5:59 AM, paxamericana said: It’s also driving the infrastructure investment that is needed to run AI power demand. Other way around.... It's the data centre investment that is driving more of a demand for power. The US economy is stoppable though... your boy Trump will see to that with his tariff policy and the slow but sure realignment of trade and spends from what were once solid allies. Quote
paxamericana Posted September 28, 2025 Author Report Posted September 28, 2025 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: realignment of trade Not possible, there is no one else to sell to. You allies are old farts that don't buy goods anymore. You're all retired. America is the only large consumption market that you can still sell to. So guess what, pay the friction removal fee or be locked out of the market. Edited September 28, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 28, 2025 Report Posted September 28, 2025 7 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Not possible, there is no one else to sell to. You allies are old farts that don't buy goods anymore. You're all retired. America is the only large market that you can still sell to. So guess what, pay the friction removal fee or be locked out of the market. Everyone will still trade with the US, just less as they diversify to more reliable partners. Foreign visitors and investment have dropped significantly and will stay that way as long as Trump's in office. That impacts the US economy and those working in the hospitality sector. He's a detriment... Quote
paxamericana Posted September 28, 2025 Author Report Posted September 28, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: more reliable partners Other nation are just merely vendors aka competitors, they are not customers. America is the customer, there is no sharing of customers. I suggest Canada harness it's abundant hydro power and get into material processing. The chinese are going away. To make stuff the Americans are going to need processed material. This is where Canada will shine best. Your other industries are just not that competitive. Edited September 28, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 On 9/28/2025 at 10:35 AM, paxamericana said: Other nation are just merely vendors aka competitors, they are not customers. America is the customer, there is no sharing of customers. I suggest Canada harness it's abundant hydro power and get into material processing. The chinese are going away. To make stuff the Americans are going to need processed material. This is where Canada will shine best. Your other industries are just not that competitive. China isn't going anywhere, and will pass the US as the world's largest economy within the next decade. Probably sooner once the realignment of trade partnerships rom what were once strong allies takes shape. Your guy has enough troubles right now with his so-called economic policies. 'Drill baby drill' has been an epic failure and nothing more than a slogan to get you excited. Tariffs that continue to impact costs and a stagnant labor market says stagflation is a real concern. By the end of next month you're going to have lost ~1M jobs in the economy this year which is the highest since 2020 and covid, while hiring is down 58% YOY. That's winning... 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 9 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: China isn't going anywhere, and will pass the US as the world's largest economy within the next decade. Probably sooner once the realignment of trade partnerships rom what were once strong allies takes shape. Your guy has enough troubles right now with his so-called economic policies. 'Drill baby drill' has been an epic failure and nothing more than a slogan to get you excited. Tariffs that continue to impact costs and a stagnant labor market says stagflation is a real concern. By the end of next month you're going to have lost ~1M jobs in the economy this year which is the highest since 2020 and covid, while hiring is down 58% YOY. That's winning... Take off your funny looking Maga hat and let me know what do you disagree with.... Quote
paxamericana Posted October 2, 2025 Author Report Posted October 2, 2025 7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: China isn't going anywhere, and will pass the US as the world's largest economy within the next decade. Probably sooner once the realignment of trade partnerships rom what were once strong allies takes shape. This is not a sentiment based on facts. It's an emotional response to being hurt by American isolationism. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, paxamericana said: This is not a sentiment based on facts. It's an emotional response to being hurt by American isolationism. Honestly, I couldn't care less about US isolationism but no, these are facts. Your red hat is on too tight.... Let me know if you want to see energy executives comments of the 'drill baby drill' garbage you bought into.... US announced job cuts decline 37% in September, YTD total higher than all of 2024 Oct. 02, 2025 6:45 AM ETBy: Gaurav Batavia, SA News Editor 5 Share Save Play(3min) Comments (13) U.S.-based employers announced 54,064 job cuts in September, down 37% from August and 26% lower from the 72,821 announced in the same month last year, Challenger, Gray & Christmas said on Thursday. So far in 2025, companies have announced 946,426 job cuts, the highest year-to-date total since 2020, when the pandemic led to 2.08M announced job cuts as entire industry sectors, such as leisure and hospitality, ground nearly to a halt. The 2025 year-to-date total is the fifth highest in the 36 years Challenger has reported. The YTD total climbed 55% from the same period last year, and has already exceeded full-year 2024’s total by 24%. “It’s very likely job cut plans are going to surpass a million for the first time since 2020 and for the ninth time in our series. Right now, we’re dealing with a stagnating labor market, cost increases, and a transformative new technology. With rate cuts on the way, we may see some stabilizing in the job market in the fourth quarter, but other factors could keep employers planning layoffs or holding off hiring,” said Andrew Challenger, senior vice president at Challenger, Gray & Christmas. Among industry sectors, services announced the most job cuts in September at 6,290, surging from 1,862 in August and 2,996 in September 2024. Year-to-date, the industry announced 61,590 job cuts, up 64% from the same period a year ago. The energy industry announced 5,807 job cuts, bringing the year-to-date total to 14,811. On the hiring side, employers plan to add 204,939 jobs so far this year, down 58% from the same period in 2024. Most of the decline can be attributed to a low number of seasonal hiring announcements. Last month, Challenger tracked 100,800 seasonal hiring plans, down from 401,850 announced by the beginning of October 2024. Edited October 2, 2025 by LinkSoul60 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 12 minutes ago, paxamericana said: This is not a sentiment based on facts. It's an emotional response to being hurt by American isolationism. I'll show you anyway... I found some of the comments telling. Shale oil execs say Trump policies are hurting investment, ‘business is broken’ Spencer Kimball@SPENCEKIMBALL SHAREShare Article via FacebookShare Article via TwitterShare Article via LinkedInShare Article via Email KEY POINTS President Donald Trump’s push for lower oil prices, higher tariffs and the resulting policy uncertainty are hurting investment, shale executives said. Nearly 80% of oil companies surveyed by the Dallas Fed have delayed investment due to questions about the future price of oil and the cost of producing it. Shale oil executives say President Donald Trump is hurting investment in the oil patch, and are giving a grim outlook for the future of the industry that turned the U.S. into the largest crude producer in the world. The executives’ anonymous comments were published in a quarterly survey of oil and gas companies by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas this week. The 139 companies that responded operate predominantly in Texas as well as northern Louisiana and southern New Mexico. Trump has championed fossil fuels while attacking the renewable energy industry since taking office in January. His One Big Beautiful Bill Act, passed by Congress in July, delivered virtually everything the oil lobby wanted. But Trump’s push for lower crude prices, higher tariffs, and the resulting uncertainty caused by his “stroke of pen” policies are hurting investment, executives at independent oil and gas producers told the Dallas Fed. Nearly 80% of executives who participated in the survey said they have delayed investment decisions in response to heightened uncertainty about the future price of oil and the cost of producing crude. “We have begun the twilight of shale,” one executive said, pointing to layoffs by the thousands and industry consolidation under big companies like Exxon Mobil. “The writing is on the wall,” the unnamed manager said. ‘Drilling is going to disappear’ Another executive warned that “drilling is going to disappear” as Trump pushes for $40 per barrel crude oil at the same time his steel tariffs are raising costs. U.S. crude oil prices are currently trading around $65 per barrel, just above the level producers need to drill profitably. The shale industry has been “gutted” over the course of the Biden and Trump administrations, another executive said. Political hostility from Biden chased away capital from the industry, the person said. Economic ignorance from Trump is “finishing the job,” they said. “The U.S. shale business is broken,” the executive said. The Trump administration has effectively aligned itself with the decision by OPEC+ to increase oil supply, “kneecapping U.S. producers in the process,” the person said. “Guided by a U.S. Department of Energy that tells them what they want to hear instead of hard facts, they operate with little understanding of shale economics,” the same executive said. Regulatory costs A White House spokesperson said Trump is “rolling back burdensome regulations that were killing the industry,” crediting the president’s policies with record production in June. Energy Secretary Chris Wright has repeatedly argued that the administration is making drilling cheaper by cuting red tape. But 57% of executives surveyed by the Dallas Fed said regulatory changes since January have reduced their breakeven costs by less than $1 per barrel. Another executive warned that Trump’s attacks on the renewable energy industry will come back to haunt the oil and gas sector in a few years. Investors are avoiding energy due to volatility and the “stroke of pen” risk that the White House wields over energy projects, the person said. “Life is long, and the sword being wielded against the renewables industry right now will likely boomerang back in 3.5 years against traditional energy,” they said, warning the industry will face harsher methane penalties, permitting restrictions and environmental reviews when Democrats return to power. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 38 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: China isn't going anywhere, and will pass the US as the world's largest economy within the next decade. Probably sooner once the realignment of trade partnerships rom what were once strong allies takes shape. Your guy has enough troubles right now with his so-called economic policies. 'Drill baby drill' has been an epic failure and nothing more than a slogan to get you excited. Tariffs that continue to impact costs and a stagnant labor market says stagflation is a real concern. By the end of next month you're going to have lost ~1M jobs in the economy this year which is the highest since 2020 and covid, while hiring is down 58% YOY. That's winning... Actually the us economy right now is doing better than people thought. Here's a hugely respected economist being quoted noting exactly that. The economy is just getting stronger, not weaker, and ‘we in the economics profession need to look ourselves in the mirror,’ top analyst says | Fortune “The consensus has been wrong since January,” Sløk said in a note circulated to clients Wednesday morning, adding that the average of economists’ forecasts has said the U.S. economy would slow down for nine months running. “But the reality is that it has simply not happened … We in the economics profession need to look ourselves in the mirror.” Growth defies expectations Second-quarter GDP expanded at a 3.8% annualized rate, a strikingly strong pace given the Federal Reserve’s ongoing effort to tamp down inflation. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
paxamericana Posted October 2, 2025 Author Report Posted October 2, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Shale oil execs say Trump policies are hurting investment, ‘business is broken’ So this is a complex topic but for brevity , the United State goal is to drive Russia out of the oil business. We lower down the market price while increasing non-tariff cost to Russia (bombs or otherwise). Once Russian market share drops it'll force prices to a new equilibrium point. But the immediate goal is to get non-Russian producer to lower their prices. That would include US based firms to eat lower profits in the short term. Trump wants to wield oil as a geopolitical tool. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 2, 2025 Report Posted October 2, 2025 56 minutes ago, paxamericana said: So this is a complex topic but for brevity , the United State goal is to drive Russia out of the oil business. We lower down the market price while increasing non-tariff cost to Russia (bombs or otherwise). Once Russian market share drops it'll force prices to a new equilibrium point. But the immediate goal is to get non-Russian producer to lower their prices. That would include US based firms to eat lower profits in the short term. Trump wants to wield oil as a geopolitical tool. So what you're saying is that he'd rather hurt the US's oil industry rather than imposing tariffs on Russia. That makes sense and is very Trump-like, but guessing it has to do with the fact US imports from Russia have increased in uranium, palladium and fertilizer. Drill baby drill....or not. Quote
paxamericana Posted October 2, 2025 Author Report Posted October 2, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: So what you're saying is that he'd rather hurt the US's oil industry rather than imposing tariffs on Russia. Actually the tariffs on Russia is already high, we're threatening sanction to anyone that does business with them. Like the Indians. American power is being wielded once again for your interest NATO deadbeat. At a cost to the American taxpayer I might add. Edited October 2, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 3, 2025 Report Posted October 3, 2025 4 hours ago, paxamericana said: Actually the tariffs on Russia is already high, we're threatening sanction to anyone that does business with them. Like the Indians. American power is being wielded once again for your interest NATO deadbeat. At a cost to the American taxpayer I might add. Putin and his buddies Modi and Xi are laughing at him. We saved that NATO expense for a lot of years while you paid. Sucker... We'll start paying now though. Quote
paxamericana Posted October 3, 2025 Author Report Posted October 3, 2025 57 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Sucker... This is why Trump got elected. You reap what you sow. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 3, 2025 Report Posted October 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: This is why Trump got elected. You reap what you sow. I thought he got elected mostly because of inflation and immigration? No reaping. It's well past time we took the world more seriously and accordingly our military. Edited October 3, 2025 by LinkSoul60 Quote
paxamericana Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 10:10 PM, LinkSoul60 said: I thought he got elected mostly because of inflation and immigration? No reaping. It's well past time we took the world more seriously and accordingly our military. America first does not mean America alone. The problem with nato deadbeats is that they don’t pull their weight. America should prioritize allies that does pull their weight. Tax the free loader like Canada. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: America first does not mean America alone. The problem with nato deadbeats is that they don’t pull their weight. America should prioritize allies that does pull their weight. Tax the free loader like Canada. We spent the money, too late. He's done nothing to address inflation other than tariff policies that raise it. You're good with that? Quote
robosmith Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 On 9/27/2025 at 5:59 AM, paxamericana said: It’s also driving the infrastructure investment that is needed to run AI power demand. My electric bills don't care about "infrastructure investment." But my investment in NVidia stock does. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 On 9/28/2025 at 8:23 AM, paxamericana said: Not possible, there is no one else to sell to. You allies are old farts that don't buy goods anymore. You're all retired. America is the only large consumption market that you can still sell to. So guess what, pay the friction removal fee or be locked out of the market. Russia, China, India, Qatar and Brazil are all buying AI infrastructure. Qatar wanted the AI chips and that's why they put $2B in Trump's crypto company. 🤮 Quote
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