MAGAT misogynists will cheer this one

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Lots of people. Inevitably the price gets dropped and people buy more milk. You're acting like it's impossible for people to drink more milk

The same people that reimburse them for pouring it down the drain

The milk was already paid for as a result of the supply management system. Which is run by the government

You know you're wrong and you cannot possibly justify your hypocrisy, so you're asking stupid questions in the hopes of distracting and you are looking like a grade A twat.

The only reason you are upset with the condoms is because it was trump. Otherwise you have no problem with this kind of thing.

And I think we all saw that you were pulling this shit out of your ass when you asked who would compensate the farmers for giving away the milk that they're currently pouring down the drain 🙄🙄🙄

The price drops and farmers go broke, like everyone else who produces something they have a cost of production. The farmer I spoke to was a multi generation dairy farmer from a Swiss dairy family. A year ago he decided to get out of the business while he could instead just borrowing to stay in business until he finally went broke which is what a lot of Fraser Valley dairy farmers are doing.  He sold his cows and quota, got out of debt and now just uses his land to produce top quality hay for horse owners. He sleeps at night, can take days off and vacations like normal people and is a much happier guy. I asked him if he felt bad about giving up dairy as it was what he had done all his life and he said hell no, I'm a farmer, it doesn't have to be dairy.

We either control prices so farmers can make a living without subsidies, subsidize lower prices with tax money or hand another whole industry to the Americans. Elbows UP. Right?

So if Windsor builds more cars than it can sell, the government should buy them and give them away or undercut the dealers so prices drop below the cost of production? Give your f*cking head a shake.  

The reason isn't Trump, the reason is they are destroying something they were going to give to people who need them  just so someone else can't give them to people who need them. 

Edited July 22, 2025 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The price drops and farmers go broke,

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and considering your previous comments it was up against some pretty stiff competition.

If the government gives the condoms away for free the condom companies will go broke!!!!!!!  (and the last thing you want is a broke condom.  Company.)

You hear how stupid you sound?

The reason we control prices is to prevent dumping by the united states in tomorrow market. To prevent that we have controls and those controls often result in huge amounts of waste. That is unfortunate but a necessary result of the policy they have chosen.

It is NOT because they can't sell the milk more competitively and it is NOT because they'll "go broke'.  (ffs)

To prevent abuse of government services when governments have a surplus of a thing they tend to either auction it off in a complicated process or simply destroy it. Those controls often result in huge amounts of waste. That's unfortunate but unnecessary result of the policy they have chosen

 

But you are happy about it when it's milk and you are sad about it when it's trump. And trump is the only difference

And all the rest of your rambling is just you being a complete Twat trying to justify your unreasonable hatred and hypocrisy. 

Hey. Stupid. It is the same thing. You're a hypocrite and a hate-filled trump derangement victim

In a perfect World the government would allow the milk to be donated to food banks and the like to be distributed to people who could not afford enough milk. That would be better than destroying it. But it has problems associated with it so they have a policy to destroy it

In a perfect world the government would give away free condoms if they weren't going to their intended use or allow people to buy them at a discount. That would be better than destroying them. But it has problems associated with it so they have a policy to destroy them

 

The only difference is you don't like Donald Trump. And your hypocrisy is absolutely stunning

[Aristides]

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If the government gives the condoms away for free the condom companies will go broke!!!!!!!  (and the last thing you want is a broke condom.  Company.)

FFS the condoms were bought to give to people in 3rd world countries who can't afford them, not to sell to Americans or other developed countries for less than the stores are currently selling them. If the goddamn 3rd world countries could afford this stuff on their own, there would be no need for foreign aid and we wouldn't even be talking about this. 

[Aristides]

The problem with whole milk is it can't practically be transported for long distances, by the time you process it, put it on a refrigerator ship and send it half way around the world it's already close to its best before date.  That's why the Americans want to dump theirs just across the border.

[gatomontes99]

26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The problem with whole milk is it can't practically be transported for long distances, by the time you process it, put it on a refrigerator ship and send it half way around the world it's already close to its best before date.  That's why the Americans want to dump theirs just across the border.

You don't have to refrigerate milk if you pasteurized it like they do in Europe. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

FFS the condoms were bought to give to people in 3rd world countries

And then they change the plan. The milk was produced with the intention of selling it to people who wanted it. And then they changed the plan. 

You're just thinking yourself deeper.

You can make an argument that we should be buying free condoms for Africa if you like, but your argument that it's terrible to waste it is pure unadulterated hypocrisy

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

The problem with whole milk is it can't practically be transported for long distances,

We sell it in Japan for Christ's sake. It absolutely can be transported.

This is the problem with you, you come up with some weird conclusion based on your emotions and then you try and invent facts to fit that narrative and they're not true. Remember that time we argued about how you insisted that you needed a couple hundred miles of flood zone behind a damn when we were talking about a damn that was being built 20 miles downstream of an existing one?

The point of the matter is you could definitely do something with the milk besides throw it away. Tons of people who are low income would love to have it. And it's a waste to throw it away. And you have no problem with the government supporting that waste but your completely buthurt when trump does something that creates a waste

Go read your comments here, you sound like a complete another twat trying to pretend that somehow if the government were to give away that milk disaster would ensue. You're so desperate that you sound like a complete lunatic.

And you could claim that both wastes are wrong or you could complain that neither or wrong but the reason you complain that one is wrong and the other is not is because you hate trump and you are complete hypocrite

[Aristides]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And then they change the plan. The milk was produced with the intention of selling it to people who wanted it. And then they changed the plan. 

You're just thinking yourself deeper.

You can make an argument that we should be buying free condoms for Africa if you like, but your argument that it's terrible to waste it is pure unadulterated hypocrisy

 

Who changed the plan? If you don't have quota dairies won't take it. That has never changed.

You think that people should produce whatever they want and if they can't sell it, government should buy it and give it away.

If the US decides to end aid that's its business but to willfully destroy what has already been paid for just so needy people can't get it is criminal.

[Aristides]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We sell it in Japan for Christ's sake. It absolutely can be transported.

This is the problem with you, you come up with some weird conclusion based on your emotions and then you try and invent facts to fit that narrative and they're not true. Remember that time we argued about how you insisted that you needed a couple hundred miles of flood zone behind a damn when we were talking about a damn that was being built 20 miles downstream of an existing one?

The point of the matter is you could definitely do something with the milk besides throw it away. Tons of people who are low income would love to have it. And it's a waste to throw it away. And you have no problem with the government supporting that waste but your completely buthurt when trump does something that creates a waste

Go read your comments here, you sound like a complete another twat trying to pretend that somehow if the government were to give away that milk disaster would ensue. You're so desperate that you sound like a complete lunatic.

And you could claim that both wastes are wrong or you could complain that neither or wrong but the reason you complain that one is wrong and the other is not is because you hate trump and you are complete hypocrite

We do not sell whole milk to Japan. 

https://aimis-simia.agr.gc.ca/rp/index-eng.cfm?action=gR&r=139&signature=1481D618796E552ACB7F212726E90688&pdctc=&pTpl=1#wb-cont

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Who changed the plan? If you don't have quota dairies won't take it. That has never changed.

Course it's changed. Supply management didn't even exist before the seventies

You're getting stupider with every post. Can you try and step it up and say something send me intelligent and actually truthful or you just want to keep looking like a Retarded Twat.

 

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Course it's changed. Supply management didn't even exist before the seventies

You're getting stupider with every post. Can you try and step it up and say something send me intelligent and actually truthful or you just want to keep looking like a Retarded Twat.

 

You weren't going on about the seventies, you were b*tching about JT waisting milk.

As usual, you resort to name calling.

[Aristides]

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In 2020, Japan’s total demand for dairy products was equivalent to approximately 12.42 million tons of raw milk, from which about 7.43 million tons were domestically produced, while around 4.99 tons were imported. This means that the country needs to import a little more than 40% of its dairy products. Imported dairy products consist primarily of cheese, non-fat dry milk and ice cream, while fluid milk for direct consumption is domestically produced. As the number of farmers active in the dairy sector has been decreasing because many of them do not find a successor, dairy products are likely to become more and more imported.

 

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Aristides said:

We do not sell whole milk to Japan. 

https://aimis-simia.agr.gc.ca/rp/index-eng.cfm?action=gR&r=139&signature=1481D618796E552ACB7F212726E90688&pdctc=&pTpl=1#wb-cont

Sigh.

We sell milk to japan, and you're looking dumber by the second 

Yes, Canada does sell some dairy products, including milk, to Japan. While Canada primarily produces milk to meet domestic demand, it does export some dairy products, including cheese, skim milk powder, and whey products, to Japan. These exports are facilitated by Japan recognizing Canada's dairy inspection system as equivalent, meaning Canadian dairy products meet sanitary standards comparable to Japan's. 

Does Canada sell milk to Japan - Google Search

We don't sell a lot to anybody because we only make what we need for our presumption. But we certainly could. And at the end of the day it's still entirely possible to drink more milk at home, and the milk that is destroyed could be given free of charge to the poor. Or sold. Which is exactly what you're complaining isn't happening here.

 

Virtually everything you're saying is wrong and you're only reason for being mad is because it's trump. Dairy was one example of where the government causes significant waste as part of its policies or as a result of it's policies.

You just hate trump and you've allowed your hatred to make you look stupid. Something to think about

 

[Aristides]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sigh.

We sell milk to japan, and you're looking dumber by the second 

Yes, Canada does sell some dairy products, including milk, to Japan. While Canada primarily produces milk to meet domestic demand, it does export some dairy products, including cheese, skim milk powder, and whey products, to Japan. These exports are facilitated by Japan recognizing Canada's dairy inspection system as equivalent, meaning Canadian dairy products meet sanitary standards comparable to Japan's. 

Does Canada sell milk to Japan - Google Search

We don't sell a lot to anybody because we only make what we need for our presumption. But we certainly could. And at the end of the day it's still entirely possible to drink more milk at home, and the milk that is destroyed could be given free of charge to the poor. Or sold. Which is exactly what you're complaining isn't happening here.

 

Virtually everything you're saying is wrong and you're only reason for being mad is because it's trump. Dairy was one example of where the government causes significant waste as part of its policies or as a result of it's policies.

You just hate trump and you've allowed your hatred to make you look stupid. Something to think about

 

We do not sell whole milk to Japan. I gave you the Government of Canada statistics for dairy exports to Japan. Can't you f*cking read.

The seventies was 50 years ago. 

If you want to let farmers produce as much as they want and give the surplus to the poor, you should be prepared to pay the farmers who produce it because they can't do it for nothing.

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You weren't going on about the seventies, you were b*tching about JT waisting milk.

 

I was replying to your comment that we've never ever changed our milk rules.

Don't get mad at me because you were wrong

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If you want to let farmers produce as much as they want and give the surplus to the poor, you should be prepared to pay the farmers who produce it because they can't do it for nothing.

Are they getting paid for pouring it down the drain right now? 

Sooooo...  didn't really think about that did you.

In any case it has nothing to do with whether or not it's good policy. My problem is that you absolutely love the waste idea here but because it's trump you hate it there.The only difference is that it's trump. And that makes you a hypocrite

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[Aristides]

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You just hate trump and you've allowed your hatred to make you look stupid. Something to think about

 

Your  slavish devotion to the man triggers you to justify anything he does, regardless of how stupid or spiteful.

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Your  slavish devotion to the man triggers you to justify anything he does, regardless of how stupid or spiteful.

I've just proven that that's not the case. I'm willing to accept the waste when it comes to milk, I'm willing to accept the waste when it comes to this. I understand that government occasionally has to have policies that lead to waste.

You are the only one that is being a hypocrite. You absolutely abhor the waste with condoms but you are absolutely thrilled about the ways when it comes to milk. The only difference is that it's trump

You really do need to get a grip on that hatred and bigotry

[Aristides]

Not supporting over production isn’t government waste. Destroying something that has already been paid for just to keep it from being used, is government waste. You seem incapable of understanding the difference.

[Deluge]

On 7/19/2025 at 6:52 PM, Aristides said:

It is important to the people who rely on it.

Where do you think NGO's get their money? 

Why not ask instead of just destroying stuff?

MAGA's can't seem to make the connection between availability of birth control and number of abortions which they are so dead set against.

MAGA doesn't want tax dollars going to foreigners. That money should be spent right here, in the U.S. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Not supporting over production isn’t government waste.

It's not overproduction and it is government waste. It's over quota. The quota is set by the government.

And somehow you managed to get Dumber again since the last time we spoke. I swear your IQ is about to go into the negative numbers. You are about to collapse into a black hole of stupidity

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Destroying something that has already been paid for just to keep it from being used, is government waste.

That's literally what they're doing with the milk. It's already been paid for, the costs have already been absorbed, they could sell it but instead government regulation requires that they destroy it

Oopsie, painted yourself into a corner again I see   

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

MAGA doesn't want tax dollars going to foreigners. That money should be spent right here, in the U.S. 

The money has already been spent, they might as well just have burned the 10 million spent on it. Why not just burn another 10 million and brag about how it could have been spent on aid.

At least you admit they are just doing it out of spite, for no other reason than the previous administration bought the stuff.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The money has already been spent,

same with the milk

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They might as well just have burned the 10 million spent on it.

same with the milk

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Why not just burn another 10 million and brag about how it could have been spent on aid.

Same with the milk. 

 

This is why you're a hypocrite. You understand and accept perfectly fine the idea of that government policy leads to waste when it's not trump, but when it's trump you're all upset

Stop being a hypocrite. Trump canceled the aid and as a result the item set aside will be destroyed because of gov't policies, 

Now you can say that he should have not canceled the aid, and you can make that argument, but your whole stick about it being some big waste and crying like a baby about it is pure hypocrisy

[Aristides]

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

same with the milk

same with the milk

Same with the milk. 

 

This is why you're a hypocrite. You understand and accept perfectly fine the idea of that government policy leads to waste when it's not trump, but when it's trump you're all upset

Stop being a hypocrite. Trump canceled the aid and as a result the item set aside will be destroyed because of gov't policies, 

Now you can say that he should have not canceled the aid, and you can make that argument, but your whole stick about it being some big waste and crying like a baby about it is pure hypocrisy

Bullshit'

The government never paid for the milk, no one did. 

Trump cancelling the aid is one thing, destroying what was already paid for just so it can't be used to help people is something else.

It's the destruction of goods already paid for that could be used by others to help people, not the cancelling of aid. 

Man you can  be so obtuse it is hilarious.

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Bullshit'

Absolute truth. You're not about to make yourself look like a Twat again are you

21 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The government never paid for the milk, no one did. 

Really. So you think the milk just appeared and there were no cows involved or no feeding the cows or caring for the cows or any money whatsoever. Nobody paid for the milk it just magically shows up. Perhaps some species of milk fairy?

I see you decided on twat.

22 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Trump cancelling the aid is one thing, destroying what was already paid for just so it can't be used to help people is something else.

It's the same thing that governments do with everything. It's precisely the same as the milk. The milk was already paid for but the government Orders it to be destroyed

22 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It's the destruction of goods already paid for that could be used by others to help people, not the cancelling of aid. 

And that's what makes you a complete hypocrite. The government destroys things all the time rather than let it be put to use which is exactly why I brought up the milk. They do that constantly with milk and you have no problem whatsoever

So your problem here isn't the destruction of the materials because you don't have any problem with that when anyone else does it. Your problem here is Donald and that would make you a hypocrite

 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The money has already been spent, they might as well just have burned the 10 million spent on it. Why not just burn another 10 million and brag about how it could have been spent on aid.

At least you admit they are just doing it out of spite, for no other reason than the previous administration bought the stuff.

I would've burned them, if only to make the point that woke delusional bullshit is OVER.