robosmith Posted June 23 Author Report Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, West said: I hope project 2025 is implemented in its entirety Why does it matter to YOU, Canuck? Quote
User Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Why does it matter to YOU, Canuck? Not sure why you think it matters to you when you can't even be bothered to be honest about it here... 1 Quote
Matthew Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 FEMA is extremely effective and I've witnessed what they do first hand. The speed and scale of their response is incredible. When a flood wiped out thousands of homes blocks away from me suddenly and unexpectedly there were many charities that came but nothing matched FEMA's sustained response. States of course do respond to their own disasters but people look to the federal government when things get really bad. It's inevitable that the federal government will try to help when these things happen. Going back to the pre-2001 unprepared, uncoordinated responses will be worse and far more costly. Quote
Deluge Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Why does it matter to YOU, Canuck? Because he actually cares about what is going on, while you are still trying to figure out your pronouns. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 (edited) On 6/19/2025 at 6:21 PM, robosmith said: 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Why are you crying, robowoke? It looks like FEMA could use some major cuts, anyways. For example: I'm sure FEMA's been pouring millions of tax dollars all over illegal aliens, which is grounds for mass reduction if not for complete elimination with prison sentences as well. Aren't you interested in cutting fraud, waste and abuse? Edited June 23 by Deluge Quote
CdnFox Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Matthew said: FEMA is extremely effective and I've witnessed what they do first hand. The speed and scale of their response is incredible. When a flood wiped out thousands of homes blocks away from me suddenly and unexpectedly there were many charities that came but nothing matched FEMA's sustained response. States of course do respond to their own disasters but people look to the federal government when things get really bad. It's inevitable that the federal government will try to help when these things happen. Going back to the pre-2001 unprepared, uncoordinated responses will be worse and far more costly. I think the idea of a federal response makes a lot of sense in the same way that I think having a federal army to deal with threats of invasion and such makes sense. Disaster can strike anywhere and having one well-organized and trained group to respond is a logically defensible position. The problem is as in many cases they allowed themselves to become a political tool. While responding to emergencies their people were told to avoid homes that advertised that they voted for trump for example. When a federal agency becomes so partisan that it can't even do its job and are willing to allow people to suffer because of their political views than unfortunately it's time has probably come. Perhaps they can have a smaller organization that will at the very least be able to step in with emergency funding to help out. But FEMA cut its own throat when it became political and that became national news. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Matthew Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 On 6/23/2025 at 11:22 AM, CdnFox said: The problem is as in many cases they allowed themselves to become a political tool. While responding to emergencies their people were told to avoid homes that advertised that they voted for trump for example. Can you document "many cases" of FEMA being used as a political tool?, as opposed to the one isolated individual accused of this specific behavior you mentioned, who was then diciplined? Systematic or institutional bias was not shown to exist in this case. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 23 minutes ago, Matthew said: Can you document "many cases" of FEMA being used as a political tool?, as opposed to the one isolated individual accused of this specific behavior you mentioned, who was then diciplined? Systematic or institutional bias was not shown to exist in this case. Yes, actually there were several newspaper articles about it which I'm sure you can find with a simple search. As I said one of the most egregious was fEMA ordering its agents not to provide help to homes in a disaster that were displaying science supporting trump. Should take you about 3 milliseconds to find that on the web. But three more directors were fired for their political actions involving trump that were similar. And it was noted that additional issues were at play in the organization, Like i said, all of this is a super quick google search away so you either know and are just sealioning or you're talking out of your ass. It's not one individual. And fema did what it could to give the appearance of having investigated and cut out the rot and corrected the problem but honestly, by then it's far too late. The organization has become stained and of course trump isn't going to believe that they got all the problem people or that it won't keep happening. I mean... that was some pretty horrible stuff. Diverting desperately needed aid away from people because you don't like their politics? That's absolutely horrible, Sorry kiddo but really that's all it takes. The moment you allow your organization to become political in that fashion you basically signed its death warrant. By giving it back to the states they take the partisanship out of it and send a pretty clear message, if a state does that to it's own people then the governor will suffer, not the president. The left are driven by hatred and bigotry and this time it caught up with them. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 On 6/23/2025 at 10:18 AM, Matthew said: FEMA is extremely effective and I've witnessed what they do first hand. The speed and scale of their response is incredible. When a flood wiped out thousands of homes blocks away from me suddenly and unexpectedly there were many charities that came but nothing matched FEMA's sustained response. States of course do respond to their own disasters but people look to the federal government when things get really bad. It's inevitable that the federal government will try to help when these things happen. Going back to the pre-2001 unprepared, uncoordinated responses will be worse and far more costly. Especially if the find out who voted for whom...eh? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 10 hours ago, Matthew said: Can you document "many cases" of FEMA being used as a political tool?, as opposed to the one isolated individual accused of this specific behavior you mentioned, who was then diciplined? Systematic or institutional bias was not shown to exist in this case. -FEMA was avoiding whole areas because of a vague militia threat against them -FEMA was used to funnel money into "anti racism" theater in NYC -FEMA was being used to funnel money to house Illegal Immigrants Quote
CdnFox Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 1 hour ago, User said: -FEMA was avoiding whole areas because of a vague militia threat against them -FEMA was used to funnel money into "anti racism" theater in NYC -FEMA was being used to funnel money to house Illegal Immigrants Denied aid to disaster victims because they liked trump. Using power and influence and money for other political pursuits. I mean seriously - letting disaster victims suffer and possibly die because they like trump? The woman should be in jail for ordering her people to do that, never mind 'fired'. Etc etc. The MOMENT that happens the org has to be shut down. It's been compromised. It's a shame, i'm sure it did do some really good work. Cautionary tale to other gov't orgs i'd say. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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