That's it! I've had enough!

[Montgomery Burns]

Do y'all remember when I linked to the CBC video of Scott Reid saying that Canadian parents would spend the $1200 annual childcare cash on beer and popcorn?

You won't be able to watch that video anymore.

Why?

Here's why. Joel - from proudtobecanadian.ca - has been forced to yank all the CBC videos from his site or he will be sued--plus they informed him that they are monitoring his site. The CBC even served him papers at his house.

Please tell everyone you know about this totalitarian antic by Canada's Pravda. These radical leftists (who showed their true colors when they linked to extremists like Michael Moore and Ted Rall when they were on strike) must be stopped. Even some of my liberal (decent liberals--I don't hang with "progressives") friends were shocked about this. Joel rants about the CTV also, but they have not issued a cease and desist with a threat of legal action.

They call it "intellectual" property. CBC and intellectual should never be used in the same sentence. Plus Joel is forced to pay for these CBC videos via taxation.

P.S., the CBC has all of the NHL's Coach's Corner segments archived...well all of them except for one. The one where Don Cherry took Ron Maclean's bait about the Iraq War where Cherry said that he was embarrassed that Canada crapped all over its good friend and ha-yuge trading partner--the USA.

That video is not on our state-run CBC website--but the ball-waxing video is still there.

Luckily Harper is more pragmatic than hot-tempered me; I'd privatize the CBC right this minute--minority govt or not! :angry:

That.is.all. :angry:

[BHS]

The CBC is a corporation, and as such it reserves the right to maintain control over who is allowed to reproduce content it has generated.

That being said, it is a corporation wholly owned and paid for by Canadian taxpayers. It's entire reason for being is that is functions as a public service. All of it's content should be made public domain in my opinion. Maybe I should start some sort of letter writing campaign.

If your call to privatize the CBC was answered the new owners would retain the CBC's rights and there would be no chance whatsoever that it's content would be open for public use. So unfortunately the blogger you mentioned would be in the same boat.

[Montgomery Burns]

BHS:

If your call to privatize the CBC was answered the new owners would retain the CBC's rights and there would be no chance whatsoever that it's content would be open for public use. So unfortunately the blogger you mentioned would be in the same boat.

You're wrong.

CTV hasn't threatened legal action against proudtobecanadian.ca. Joel is a critic of their leftwing bias, albeit not as harshly as the CBC, and they have not issued any threats of legal action. Indeed, I linked to PTBC's video of the John Duffy vs Mike Duffy scrap and the CTV Question Period episode where Duffy backed up Scott Reid's "beer and popcorn" comment--right here on MLW. Posters here thanked me because they had missed this on TV.

Ever been to Exposetheleft.com? The entire site is mostly videos from the MSM with a bit of commentary by the site owner. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and the Fox News Channel have not issued threats to Exposetheleft.

Indeed, there are sites all over the internet where they have video from the MSM.

This is your typical leftwing totalitarianism by the left; by the CBC--and people should spread the word about this despicable tactic. This is Canada, not Cuba, the Soviet Union, North Korea, or some Middle East sh*thole.

[Michael Hardner]

Monty - do you think Harper will privatize the CBC ? If so, when ? In his first majority term ? His second ? Given the speed at which he's moving, and the volume of criticism towards the small steps he's taking it seems inconceivable at this point.

[shoop]

Privatization of the CBC will definitely not happen in this mandate. Very, very unlikely in the next. Far, far too controversial...

Monty - do you think Harper will privatize the CBC ? If so, when ? In his first majority term ? His second ? Given the speed at which he's moving, and the volume of criticism towards the small steps he's taking it seems inconceivable at this point.

[August1991]

Monty - do you think Harper will privatize the CBC ? If so, when ? In his first majority term ? His second ? Given the speed at which he's moving, and the volume of criticism towards the small steps he's taking it seems inconceivable at this point.

There was a lock-out at the CBC from Aug to Oct last year and the sky didn't fall in.

The English CBC radio leads in no urban market in Canada.

Meanwhile, the CBC has become part of owner of a private satellite radio system that broadcasts over all of North America. Does the CBC plan to become the Left Voice for North America?

[Michael Hardner]

I think it's more likely that the left itself will evolve before the CBC is given the wrecking ball.

[shoop]

You are probably correct. Better that the CBC should continue to shrink in importance than weather the nightmarish storm that would result from any attempts at outright privatization.

I think it's more likely that the left itself will evolve before the CBC is given the wrecking ball.

[Michael Hardner]

You are probably correct. Better that the CBC should continue to shrink in importance than weather the nightmarish storm that would result from any attempts at outright privatization.

Sorry, but I don't see that happening either. If they drop their two-tier vision of the Canadian public (ie. the masses that need to be educated vs. the authorities and experts) and continue to get better at developing programs that people actually like, they will grow in popularity.

One thing that they have in their favour is the lack of advertising. As a Sirius subscriber, I could never go back to commercial radio. It's easily worth fifty cents a day.

[August1991]

No changes would occur under current CBC management.

Robert Rabinovitch is the CEO of the CBC. He was first appointed by Chretien, and then his term was renewed by Martin for three years to November 2007. Martin appointed Guy Fournier CBC Chairman.

Rabinovitch was a Trudeau Ottawa Mandarin, Fournier a Quebec writer/producer.

Harper should put in place a different way to name senior management; something with parliamentary review.

[shoop]

If they actually dropped that view of the Canadian public then many of the criticisms would rightly go away. They are showing no indication of moving in that direction and will continue shrinking as a result.

I don't actually believe they are getting better at developing programs that people actually like. Wasn't that "This is Wonderland" supposedly an example of that. How long did that one last?

Canadians actually like to watch the Olympics. Too bad CTV outbid them for 2010 and 2012.

Sorry, but I don't see that happening either. If they drop their two-tier vision of the Canadian public (ie. the masses that need to be educated vs. the authorities and experts) and continue to get better at developing programs that people actually like, they will grow in popularity.

One thing that they have in their favour is the lack of advertising. As a Sirius subscriber, I could never go back to commercial radio. It's easily worth fifty cents a day.

[sideshow]

i dont know what all the to do is about. i dont watch cbc or fox. and really, it doesnt matter what they broadcast-just change the channel.

[Michael Hardner]

They are showing no indication of moving in that direction and will continue shrinking as a result.

I don't actually believe they are getting better at developing programs that people actually like. Wasn't that "This is Wonderland" supposedly an example of that. How long did that one last? rolleyes.gif

It wasn't that bad a show, actually, but it didn't catch on. I think there are always signs of change, and they've gone a little more towards the youth market recently (I'm speaking of radio here) which has brightened their sound a bit.

[GostHacked]

MSM is not your friend anymore.

I read the article :

http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/index...ted_by_the_cbc/

Why they hated him? That is a good question. Why DO they hate him?

Also what is the difference between state run media being controlled by the state promoting their interests, or privatized media (invested by corporations) promoting their own interests? They are both wrong in my opinion. I think you will begin to find , along with the CBC, you should take all news with a grain of salt. This is how much we trust the information given to us these days.

I agree, dismantle the CBC. And CTV. And all the rest (Fox CNN, CBS ect)

[Michael Hardner]

Gost:

I liked your post. Indeed why do they hate him ? There could be many reasons. For example, Coren used to write for Frank so he could have ruffled some feathers there.

I agree, dismantle the CBC. And CTV. And all the rest (Fox CNN, CBS ect)

We're doing that here at MLW.

[shoop]

I don't really have much issue with CBC radio. What about privatizing just the television wing?

I think there are always signs of change, and they've gone a little more towards the youth market recently (I'm speaking of radio here) which has brightened their sound a bit.

[mcqueen625]

The CBC is a corporation, and as such it reserves the right to maintain control over who is allowed to reproduce content it has generated.

That being said, it is a corporation wholly owned and paid for by Canadian taxpayers. It's entire reason for being is that is functions as a public service. All of it's content should be made public domain in my opinion. Maybe I should start some sort of letter writing campaign.

If your call to privatize the CBC was answered the new owners would retain the CBC's rights and there would be no chance whatsoever that it's content would be open for public use. So unfortunately the blogger you mentioned would be in the same boat.

Never mind privatizing CBC, we should instead just abolish this bureaucracy and be done with it. Think of the money that can be saved the taxpayers by just closing just one of the many useless bureaucracies abundant in Canada, both federally and provincially?

The CBC would be a good one to start with, then we could abolish bureaucracies like the Gun Registry, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages, The Senate, just think of the fun we could have and at the same time save untold amounts of money that could be directed back into the pockets of the people they are getting it from, we the taxpayers.

[Michael Hardner]

So rather than sell the CBC, you think we should just stop it - is that right ?

[Big Blue Machine]

The Senate uses hardly any money.

[BHS]

The Senate uses hardly any money.

This is the craziest non-sequitur I've ever seen in the forum, bar none.

[August1991]

The Senate uses hardly any money.

This is the craziest non-sequitur I've ever seen in the forum, bar none.

There are about 100 senators, and each costs us about $200,000 or so each year in salaries. That's about $20 million. Let's add a couple of assistants at $70,000 each for each senator, and we're at $50 million. Paperwork, translation and so on, and we're at maybe $100 million. That's $3 from each Canadian each year.

IMV, if the Senate delays any government spending project in any way, then it has paid for itself. I want a government that has many, many hoops before it approves spending. I'm willing to pay $3 a year for a bunch of idiots to argue and feel important if the result is that the government does nothing and doesn't spend my money.

My only fear is that the Senate, like UIC and CPP, creates a political mentality. Right place, right time, right friends, right interpretation of the bureaucratic rules, someone lucks out. She/he gets government money.

My fear is that people waste so many lives (including their own) in the process of attempting to get the (senate) government prize. Such systems have impoverished some countries, and it's a reason to abolish or elect our current senate. Appointed senators are an invitation to political lobbying, and social waste.

[Michael Hardner]

IMV, if the Senate delays any government spending project in any way, then it has paid for itself. I want a government that has many, many hoops before it approves spending. I'm willing to pay $3 a year for a bunch of idiots to argue and feel important if the result is that the government does nothing and doesn't spend my money.

The idea here seems to be that the bureaucracy saves money. Sorry, Auguste, but I have never heard a conservative such as yourself suggest a thing. Slowing the system down does mean that it takes longer to get the money train moving, but it also can mean that it's impossible to stop once it gets going. And the Senate is just as likely to complicate a project, or add more to it than to reject it.

When Mike Harris got elected, the first thing he passed was the Omnibus bill that sped up the legislative process so that he could get things done. Now THAT'S conservative.

Your point that the Senate costs much less than the CBC is taken. Has anybody suggested privatizing the Senate ? ( Yes, that was a joke. )

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear August1991,

IMV, if the Senate delays any government spending project in any way, then it has paid for itself. I want a government that has many, many hoops before it approves spending.

Actually, this way costs more. Never mind the fact that the projected project budget may be on last year's gas prices, real estate and labour costs. If your chief project engineer is told that there will be a delay, he'll still get paid (along with many, many others) or he would go elsewhere.

[Montgomery Burns]

Okay I have calmed down since my rant in the OP. Do I think that Harper should axe the CBC right now? No, it is too politically dangerous for a minority govt. Do I think he should axe it when they get a majority govt? Yes. With Harper and the CPC growing in popularity, the political atmosphere could be changed as Harper slowly moves the country to the right.

-Think of the money taxpayers would save annually.

-What kind of a country has a state-run TV station that constantly and openly mocks and ridicules conservatives, then greedily demands that conservatives pay their hard-earned dollars to support said state-run TV station? That's for the former Soviet Union, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq, Europe, etc, not Canada.

-What kind of a country bids against its own citizens (private TV channels)? If there is such a demand for "progressive" views, then the CBC should have no trouble making it on its own, instead of leeching off the taxpayer. Right?

-Think of a country where its citizens can choose what TV channel to support with their dollars, versus being forced to support a channel with their dollars. What's next? Am I going to be forced to take out a subscription to the ultra-left Toronto Star?

-I have never ever heard of a TV station threatening a blogger with legal action (using taxpayer money, yet) if the blogger show its videos on his/her website. There are videos from TV news stations all over the internet. It's totalitarian and it should worry each and every one of you.

-And perhaps the best thing about axing the CBC is that its brainwashing of the public would stop and that will make Canadians much smarter. With all due respect - there are many intelligent reasonable posters on this forum - but on the whole, Canadians are dumb and I attribute much of this to brainwashing from the CBC.

-31% of Canadians voted for a thoroughly corrupt - and everyone knew they were corrupt to the core - party. I watched those "man on the street" interviews on CPAC during the election, and Canadians would say that they didn't care that the Liberal Party was corrupt; it was more important to stop Harper and his "extreme rightwing agenda". But these are the same people that consider Bush an extreme rightwinger--even though Bush often acts like a centrist liberal (giving the victims of Katrina brand new mobile homes, blowing money on Medicare, funding with far too much "pork" in it, etc).

-One in 6 Canadians vote for an party whose leader is on the record as saying that he prefers to be called a socialist, rather than a social democrat. Indeed, if you throw out Quebec, about 1 in 5 Canadians vote for the NDP. In the USA, these clowns would be a fringe lunatic party.

-The viewers of the CBC actually chose a man whose views were similar, in some ways, to Adolf Hitler--as the greatest Canadian ever. WTF?!

-Look at the attitudes toward banning handguns in Canada. Many Canadians think the public should be disarmed (shades of Soviet statism, Mao's China, and Hitler's National Socialists) so the public cannot defend themselves from scumbag goblins. Or they believe that no one will ever have access to guns if they are banned. How naive, no, STUPID can you be? The banning of guns worked like a charm in the UK and Australia, didn't it?

-Look at the attitudes towards socialist healthcare. People are suffering, and even dying, through this grossly inept system, and yet many Canadians stubbornly insist on keeping things the way they are--and the remedy is to just throw more billions and billions of taxpayer dollars at it. They demand that pharmacutical companies be non-profit, thus killing the investment and initative so valuable to society. What advances in medicine and drugs does Canada invent? 90% of the advances in medicine, which has allowed society to become healthier and lead longer lives, come from the USA. The pharmacutical companies spend loads of money on years of R&D and their products should be protected by patent until they can recoup their investment and, yes, make a *gasp* profit.

-What kind of a country makes the people who pay for the vast majority of the healthcare system through their taxes--wait in line behind some cradle-to-grave welfare bum? NOTE: I am not talking about the disabled or mentally challenged. Most conservatives I know believe in protecting these people; the culture of life. Instead, many Canadians just tell these people who fund the healthcare system to go get healed in the USA if they don't like the long waiting lists, i.e., because you are a productive member of society, you should have to pay twice to get healed.

-Look at the attitudes towards defending freedom in Afghanistan. I was reading the reader comments at a Globe & Mail article the other day about the upcoming vote in Parliament about our troops in Afghanistan. I couldn't believe some of the comments. Rants about Bush and the neocon's "illegal and immoral" war. Rants about the mythical thoroughly debunked pipeline in Afghanistan canard. Comments about fighting "terrorists" (their sneer quotes, not mine). Comments claiming that the Taliban did nothing wrong except that they wouldn't turn over a suspected criminal named Osama bin Laden.

But the worst was the commenter who said that our troops should leave Kandahar and move to northern Afghanistan where it is safer. Is that this country has turned into--a nation of cowards?

-What kind of a country has no abortion law and thinks that taxpayers should fund abortions at even 8 or 9 months into a pregnancy? To head off the shrieking about "american-style", let's look at Europe. In the UK, abortion-on-demand is available only until the 24th week. In Sweden, YES SWEDEN, women must seek permission to have an abortion after the 18th week. In Germany, it is available only in the first 12 weeks. About 100,000 babies are aborted every year in Canada and as I have proven before on this forum (granted it was data from the US, but I doubt Canada is much different), 97 to 98% of these babies are aborted for merely being an inconvenience, not because of the mom's health being in danger, rape, or incest) To hell with personal responsibility! If it feels good, do it!

I firmly and truly believe that the CBC has, via brainwashing, greatly contributes to so many Canadians being morally bankrupt and idiotic. If you don't believe that people can be brainwashed by state-run news, just look at Old Europe--some of the dumbest brainwashed people around.

Why do you think that the Liberal Party-controlled CRTC banned the Fox News Channel for 5 years?

P.S. Nice to see the CRTC is losing some of its power. Go Harper! Do more. Even HBO is banned in this country.

[August1991]

Is this blurb biased?

BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE is a tour-de-force from award-winning Michael Moore and the result is a stunningly brave piece of work. As his country’s leading satirist and social documentarian, Moore, in this groundbreaking film, boldly asks a question that most Americans dare not ask in these wildly patriotic times, “Are we a nation of gun nuts — or are we just nuts?”

CBC