School May Ban 'Only Two Genders' T-shirt

[herbie]

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

3. How would you know? 😂

I could name you some names you'd instantly recognize. But gay implies a chosen sexuality and you actually haven't chosen for sure until after you're out of school. Or hell, most probably never even had sex in those days. 

Nowadays these bans are about anything that doesn't condemn LGBTQ or mentions any sexuality at all. The zealots seem to want to go back to movies where married people had separate beds, 'down there' was just the thing you peed from, and Mom & Dad had 'the talk' when you were 21..
I mean honestly, banning a book about Two Moms when some of their classmates have two moms seems a bit assholic.

Edited September 1, 2025 by herbie

[User]

22 minutes ago, herbie said:

I could name you some names you'd instantly recognize. But gay implies a chosen sexuality and you actually haven't chosen for sure until after you're out of school. Or hell, most probably never even had sex in those days. 

Nowadays these bans are about anything that doesn't condemn LGBTQ or mentions any sexuality at all. The zealots seem to want to go back to movies where married people had separate beds, 'down there' was just the thing you peed from, and Mom & Dad had 'the talk' when you were 21..
I mean honestly, banning a book about Two Moms when some of their classmates have two moms seems a bit assholic.

[herbie]

Oh f*ck Mr M0ron is back again. Still not having Googled what a straw man fallacy even is.
It is not discussing two sides of the same coin.

My kid got sent home to change his t-shirt that said P*RNSTAR (with a star for the O) and that's proper and fair. Offensive is offensive and school is not your own home.
The student in question is free to wear that shirt to and from school and at home. Principals and School Boards need to make the decisions and not politicians pandering to zealots like Florida and now Alberta.
WHO decides.
Point being it depends who is judging: a sane person or some raving zealot, does it offend the people attending or people who don't even see or read it?

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

It is not discussing two sides of the same coin.

[CouchPotato]

On 8/30/2025 at 11:33 PM, herbie said:

And I see Alberta's joined the Maple MAGA book ban movement. A friend just went out and bought Handmaid's Tale so her 14 year old could read it. She was reading Steven Kind on her own at 9 and 10

Danielle Smith never banned A Handmaid's Tale. The Edmonton school board did. 

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Premier Danielle Smith has defended the order, saying the intent is to keep graphic sexual imagery out of elementary school libraries.

“We’re trying to take graphic pornographic images out of elementary schools so that kids are not exposed to age-inappropriate material,” Smith said at a Friday news conference, where she displayed examples she described as inappropriate for young children.

Smith accused Edmonton Public Schools of “vicious compliance” with the order, suggesting the division overreached by listing books such as Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale and Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/albertas-school-book-removals-spark-backlash-from-educators-authors-students/

Edited September 2, 2025 by CouchPotato

[herbie]

Hasn't banned Lampoon's Dick In Jane yet either. Whoop de doo.

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Hasn't banned Lampoon's Dick In Jane yet either. Whoop de doo.

Herbie is all for graphic porn in Kindergarten libraries... 

[herbie]

On the subject of school bans, the Alberta govt has taken so much heat that today they paused their book ban bill.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

On the subject of school bans, the Alberta govt has taken so much heat that today they paused their book ban bill.

That's because Canada supports traditional values, like freedom of expression.

[herbie]

As I tell raw food per enthusiasts: Cooking meat is recognized as one of the biggest evolutionary steps in boosting human brain development. Are you afraid your dog will get smarter than you?

Some people are scared too much reading will make their kids smarter than they are. And that is true in their case.

[Michael Hardner]

48 minutes ago, herbie said:

 Some people are scared too much reading will make their kids smarter than they are.  

"Narcissistic parents don't want children, they want pets."

They don't want their children to develop their own opinions and ideas.

I feel this phenomenon is more of an American thing. How many families broke apart over politics in the last 10 years?

[User]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's because Canada supports traditional values, like freedom of expression.

Which is why we have so many threads talking about how Canada doesn't do this... 

16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They don't want their children to develop their own opinions and ideas.

Who is this "they" and what example here are you talking about?

 

16 hours ago, herbie said:

Some people are scared too much reading will make their kids smarter than they are. And that is true in their case.

Yeah, that's it! Parents are scared that children reading about how to use a butt plug correctly, or how to use a strap-on dildo, or the gay hookup site Grinder is going to make them smarter than they are. 

Can you ever argue honestly? Ever?

 

[CouchPotato]

18 hours ago, herbie said:

On the subject of school bans, the Alberta govt has taken so much heat that today they paused their book ban bill.

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They don't want their children to develop their own opinions and ideas.

 

Danielle Smith did not ban A Handmaid's Tale. One school board decided to, but classic books like that are clearly not what she was talking about. She gave examples of the books they did not think were appropriate in elementary schools, a lot of them graphic novels with things like fellatio portrayed. Do you think that is essential reading in elementary school?

The only reason the bill is paused is because they have to revise it to make it more understandable to the people who are being (most likely deliberately) obtuse about it.

 

Edited September 3, 2025 by CouchPotato

[CouchPotato]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They don't want their children to develop their own opinions and ideas.

18 hours ago, herbie said:

Some people are scared too much reading will make their kids smarter than they are. And that is true in their case.

Here is just one image from one of the books actually referenced in Danielle Smith's guidelines. 

 

Pretty educational stuff, eh. The real question is why you two support this sort of thing.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Here is just one image from one of the books actually referenced in Danielle Smith's guidelines. 

 

Pretty educational stuff, eh. The real question is why you two support this sort of thing.

I think that the response to books we disagree with is to ask why they were approved.

[CouchPotato]

18 hours ago, herbie said:

Some people are scared too much reading will make their kids smarter than they are. And that is true in their case.

 

This is another image from the guidelines the Alberta govt put out. 

 

Edited September 3, 2025 by CouchPotato

[User]

35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that the response to books we disagree with is to ask why they were approved.

I think the response to a statement like this is to ask you to explain why this matters. 

[User]

37 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

This is another image from the guidelines the Alberta govt put out. 

Yep.

This is the battle in the states here too. One of the books these leftists are pushing into K-12 schools is just smut, teaching kids how to use a butt plug and how to use Grinder to hook up for gay casual sex. 

But of course @herbie here thinks this stuff makes kids smarter and parents are just afraid of their kids being smarter. 

I mean, sure, we could take kids downtown and whore them out as prostitutes too, they would be smarter than their parents on how that industry works too I suppose. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that the response to books we disagree with is to ask why they were approved.

So I went off to answer my own question, because as usual people on here would rather cat fight than discuss.

 

And it's a lot easier to answer why books were banned as there's a process in place. 

I thought it was clear but the schools/boards wanted to be extra careful so they banned classics like 1984 in case someone saw them as too sexy.

Now, they're dialing it back but it seems to be due to optics.  

Personally I didn't see anything wrong with the original guidelines but hopefully exempting Huxley, Atwood, Salinger will do the trick.

The problem is that many parents thought that the books available were beyond the pale, and as with all things cultural... there had to be an unhappy arbitration to solve that.

Liberals, take note: this is/was a government solution and it respects freedom of expression as well as parents' rights 

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[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

So I went off to answer my own question, because as usual people on here would rather cat fight than discuss.

Congratulations on going off to answer your own irrelevant question.

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Congratulations on going off to answer your own irrelevant question.

 

Please leave the site.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Please leave the site.

ROFL. Of course you want me to leave as I am your opponent on several issues in this culture war and you don't like it because I easily defeat your positions and challenge you. 

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, User said:

ROFL. Of course you want me to leave as I am your opponent on several issues in this culture war and you don't like it because I easily defeat your positions and challenge you. 

You have never defeated me because I didn't engage with you.

You can't actually discuss anything because you're a culture warrior.

It's like gum on my shoe.  Seriously, please go.

[User]

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You have never defeated me because I didn't engage with you.

You can't actually discuss anything because you're a culture warrior.

It's like gum on my shoe.  Seriously, please go.

LOL, sure, you have been in at least half a dozen threads with me on the trans agenda and have run away from all of them. 

You are a culture warrior, its just your tactics are those of obfuscation and deception, like pretending you are not fighting when you are. 

You just realize you lose in a stand up fight, so these are the tactics you employ. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Please leave the site.

You said that to me once.

So I'll reply again...

After you.