Clown show: White House inadvertently texted top-secret Ukraine war plans to Joe Biden

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

WTF? You just tried to argue that there is only one component to the legal system: trials. Give yourself a well deserved and vigorous facepalm.

He was living here legally. He was deported illegally. 

And the government authority to scoop people off the street and imprison them in foreign gulags without trial is exactly what you've been arguing this entire farking time. That's what happened. You say it's right. You support it. Jeebus.

 

He had two order to deport him. Two. He wasn't here legally. He was told he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. But nothing said he couldn't be deported else where. If he had had dual citizenship, he would have gone to the second country. He was not here legally. The COURT documents from his multiple hearings show that. You don't want it to be true and you've probably been told it isn't true. But it is. I've shown you the documents. I've quoted the SCOTUS. I've done everything I can to give you the correct information. You just refuse to see it. What more can I do?

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Back to Hegseth the clown. 

Good thing he's here to root out all the softness from the military. Tough as nails! (Well manicured and painted nails.)🤭

 

Hegseth orders makeup studio installed at Pentagon

 

You have a secret crush on him, don't you?

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

He had two order to deport him. Two. He wasn't here legally. He was told he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. But nothing said he couldn't be deported else where. If he had had dual citizenship, he would have gone to the second country. He was not here legally. The COURT documents from his multiple hearings show that. You don't want it to be true and you've probably been told it isn't true. But it is. I've shown you the documents. I've quoted the SCOTUS. I've done everything I can to give you the correct information. You just refuse to see it. What more can I do?

You have a secret crush on him, don't you?

You've "shown" me a lot of shit you don't understand.

Withholding of removal is a legal status to remain here indefinitely. That's why the let him go. That's why they let him stay. That's why they gave him a work permit. 

You think that they are giving work permits to those who are here illegally? They want people to work if they are going to stay.

They didn't make him a citizen. They didn't grant him asylum (because he missed the application deadline). But they DID give him a legal status to remain in the US indefinitely. 

Even if the administration had deported him to a different country (which is pretty bizarre) there is no cause to send him to a supermax nightmare prison. Again, no crime, no trial, no conviction. Just a dude driving with his kid--> straight to CECOT. 

Edited yesterday at 12:26 AM by Hodad

[gatomontes99]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You've "shown" me a lot of shit you don't understand.

Withholding of removal is a legal status to remain here indefinitely. That's why the let him go. That's why they let him stay. That's why they gave him a work permit. 

You think that they are giving work permits to those who are here illegally? They want people to work if they are going to stay.

They didn't make him a citizen. They didn't grant him asylum (because he missed the application deadline). But they DID give him a legal status to remain in the US indefinitely. 

Even if the administration had deported him to a different country (which is pretty bizarre) there is no cause to send him to a supermax nightmare prison. Again, no crime, no trial, no conviction. Just a dude driving with his kid--> straight to CECOT. 

You are not understanding what the order meant. He was not granted the legal right to stay. He was ordered deported. However, the judge ruled that he wasn't safe in his home country so the government could not and would not deport him. That isn't the same as being allowed to stay. Functionally, it has the same effect. Technically it is vastly different. He is still in the country illegally. He can still be deported. For that to happen, another country would have to accept him. That wasn't going to happen. So, he was granted permission to work. That isn't legal status. Stop conflating the two.

[Hodad]

40 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You are not understanding what the order meant. He was not granted the legal right to stay. He was ordered deported. However, the judge ruled that he wasn't safe in his home country so the government could not and would not deport him. That isn't the same as being allowed to stay. Functionally, it has the same effect. Technically it is vastly different. He is still in the country illegally. He can still be deported. For that to happen, another country would have to accept him. That wasn't going to happen. So, he was granted permission to work. That isn't legal status. Stop conflating the two.

I understand exactly what the order meant. It means that for lack of alternative, the person is legally allowed to remain and work in the US indefinitely. That IS his legal status.

Such a person is not hiding. They are checking in with a case manager the same way a parolee does. They get jobs. They pay taxes. They have families. All done legally. Above board. He wasn't a fugitive. He was living and behaving legally, remaining here with the full knowledge of the legal system. That is the goddamn status he was granted. 

The Trump administration broke the law by unlawfully renditioning him to El Salvador. A district judge said it was unlawful and ordered his return. The farking SCOTUS said that it was unlawful and that the administration had to facilitate his return--unanimously, 9-0. 

And you're in here pretending that it wasn't illegal because the cult must over the Orange Overlord in all things. It's embarrassing.