The Fourth Reich?

[Deluge]

See, what Radioactive and the rest of the leftoids want, is to flood America with illegal aliens and then let the judicial system decide who stays or goes.

This is absurd, of course, but it's what these wokejobs want. 

Edited March 19 by Deluge

[Radiorum]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Democrats should have been utterly outraged at the democrats parties use of lawfare and of things like the fake steel dossier and the FBI being used for partisan purposes by the democrats most of which is absolutely proven and the rest of which is bloody obvious.

You begin with a false premise. No, not proven. No, not obvious. But in any case, irrelevant to what Trump is doing now.

 

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The democrats cause people to stop believing in the law.

MAGA's willingness to let Trump position himself above the law has nothing to do with the Democrats, but rather they demonstrate a cultish devotion to him. As I mentioned, he has created an enemy for them and they believe he alone can fix it. If it requires him to be a dictator, they accept that.

 

Cases in point:

16 minutes ago, User said:

The funny thing is that illegal immigration is one of the issues Biden so spectacularly failed on that led to Trump winning. 

 

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Stamp out illegal immigration and everything else goes away. 

 

[Legato]

29 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

it's not rhetoric but what is happening. It's plain to anyone outside of the right-wing bubble of disinformation.

The unpopularity of the Democrats can be put down to different things, but it is worth noting that the Republicans had worse numbers during the first year of Trump's first term.

• The percentage of voters with an unfavorable view of the Republican Party hovered around 60% in 2017, with a peak of 67% in August, according to Quinnipiac.

Whatabout the goalposts?

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

MAGA's willingness to let Trump position himself above the law has nothing to do with the Democrats, but rather they demonstrate a cultish devotion to him. As I mentioned, he has created an enemy for them and they believe he alone can fix it. If it requires him to be a dictator, they accept that.

Above the law how?

You have nothing of substance to offer here. Just petty snipes about cultish devotion. 

I deal with facts. The facts are that Trump is fixing illegal immigration, with record-setting low numbers at the border now across the board. 

The whole dictator schtick is just that. Trump is the duly Democratically elected President of the United States executing his powers as President. 



 

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You begin with a false premise. No, not proven. No, not obvious. But in any case, irrelevant to what Trump is doing now.

Literally proven in courts of law. People were criminally convicted of it. An additional government-led inquiries and investigations found the rest of it to be likely true

So when you pretend it's a false premise that's a lie. And it makes it easy to dismiss virtually everything you say after that because I know that you're not interested in an honest debate about the subject you're prepared to lie.

And it is not irrelevant in the slightest. If the public sends the message that it's okay to cross at a red light for one person then the next person is going to cross at the red light too. And you were all told this and there were a million people warning democrats do not do this because it will be used against you and you will not be able to stop it because no one will care.

Now that's happening and you're shocked and you're lying about what happened in the past! You can't even bring yourself to say ah we were wrong, we should never have allowed this from any party this is terrible we should all band together and stop it which would still be slightly slimy but at least would be somewhat honest and you would probably have gotten some people saying that they agreed with you that both sides should stop

Instead you perpetuate the lie.

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MAGA's willingness to let Trump position himself above the law has nothing to do with the Democrats,

 It has everything to do with it. If you go back and look I've said this about a trillion times over the last 2 years. " If you allow the dems to do this then if the republicans get in they will repay in kind and you won't be able to get a single republican to care".   In many cases I was quite specific

And now it's happening exactly as I said it would precisely. This is 100% predictable

And still expect the other guy to play by the rules. That is just not how the world works. The democrats cheated again and again and again. And they expect that republicans not to do the same. That is childish

Sorry kiddo, this is the world that the left made for itself. And I doubt it's over yet, there's some other dirty tricks they pulled that i'm sure trump will get around to.

You cannot hold people to a higher standard than you hold yourself as a politician without there being blowback. The dems have set the bar low and erased the 'line' that used to be there, trump is now free to walk past that former line and do what he wants. 

You need to think about that in the future. If you silence someone prepare to be silenced back one day. If you steal someone's rights then yours will be taken. If you repress someone they might repress you in return. And then it becomes a pendulum. 

 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Trump's illegalities pose a greater threat to the US

What threat might you be referring to?

What illegalities?

[Radiorum]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If you allow the dems to do this

The Dems never did what Trump is doing

 

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You need to think about that in the future. If you silence someone prepare to be silenced back one day. If you steal someone's rights then yours will be taken. If you repress someone they might repress you in return. And then it becomes a pendulum. 

You will have to provide instances when the Dems silenced anyone, when they stole rights, and when they repressed.

You are a champion bullsh*tter.

[Radiorum]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What threat might you be referring to?

The threat to the rule of law. Trump has repeatably claimed he is above the law. There was that little matter of trying to steal an election through false means, and now with the deportations. Did you read his post?

This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

 

He is going to attempt to do as much as he can get away with.

Here's the problem: If he posits that he is not bound by the law, and the courts, those connected with him take their cue. He will be courted by executives and varying organizations, and corruption results.

If one is not bound by the law, then no-one is.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

If one is not bound by the law, then no-one is.

That is what I have been trying to explain to you all along you silly little dweeb.

That's why people told the democrats not to throw the law out the window when they were doing so during their term.

And that's why trump feels free to get away with it now.

How does almost impossible to put that Genie back in the bottle once it's out, the democrats open that door and trump is walking through it. I doubt it'll get better during the next administration regardless of who it is

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The threat to the rule of law. Trump has repeatably claimed he is above the law. There was that little matter of trying to steal an election through false means, and now with the deportations. Did you read his post?

This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

 

He is going to attempt to do as much as he can get away with.

Here's the problem: If he posits that he is not bound by the law, and the courts, those connected with him take their cue. He will be courted by executives and varying organizations, and corruption results.

If one is not bound by the law, then no-one is.

LOL...

Trump obviously believes that election was fraudulent. Apparently, the SCOTUS (IE the law) says his actions were perfectly legal. 

Now Pumpkin...I know Twumpy-Wumpy has you freaked right out. But the fact is, you silly little farts begged for this reaction...from Twumpy-Wumpy AND the American people. 

My advise would be...

Go hug as many convict illegals as you can because...Twumpy-Wumpy and the American people are gonna deport all their a55es and soon, all your loved murderers and rapists will be gone and you'll have to satisfy your warped sense of pity, by hugging real American citizens. 

[User]

8 hours ago, Radiorum said:

You will have to provide instances when the Dems silenced anyone, when they stole rights, and when they repressed.

You are a champion bullsh*tter.

Mark Houck. 

Most of those involved in J6 who did little more than wander around and leave. 

All those in the military who had the wrong tattoo or political views deemed too right wing, with our current Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth as a prime example. 

You clowns want to keep mentally deranged Transgenders in the military and go after honorably serving combat veteran patriots because of scary tattoos. 

That was just off the top of my head. 

[User]

8 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The threat to the rule of law. Trump has repeatably claimed he is above the law. There was that little matter of trying to steal an election through false means, and now with the deportations. Did you read his post?

He tried to use the law in regards to his believing he won the election, no different than what Al Gore did. 

What about the deportations? As it was already pointed out to you, he invoked The Alien Enemies Act. 

 

[Deluge]

20 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Case in point:

You love and support illegal immigration. 

9 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The threat to the rule of law. Trump has repeatably claimed he is above the law. There was that little matter of trying to steal an election through false means, and now with the deportations. Did you read his post?

This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

 

He is going to attempt to do as much as he can get away with.

Here's the problem: If he posits that he is not bound by the law, and the courts, those connected with him take their cue. He will be courted by executives and varying organizations, and corruption results.

If one is not bound by the law, then no-one is.

The only threat is illegal immigration. Why are you fighting for it? 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The only threat is illegal immigration. Why are you fighting for it? 

You haven't understood a word I've said.

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The Dems never did what Trump is doing

That's because the dems facilitate illegal immigration. Everyone involved with that should be tried for treason. 

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You haven't understood a word I've said.

YOU are the one who doesn't understand what you say. You keep stamping your feet about rule of law but speak nothing to the FIRST event. Illegally crossing our borders is the FIRST thing that happens, and you degenerates sidestep that issue every f*cking time. 

The whole point of all of this is to keep illegal aliens OUT. Those that get in, need to be thrown OUT. THIS is what Trump is doing, and THIS has you degenerates stamping your feet in protest. 

Illegal aliens OUT, not IN. 

Get it? 

Edited March 20 by Deluge

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

You haven't understood a word I've said.

We understand just fine. 

You hide behind "due process" here but it comes across as anything but honest because you guys also support Biden letting all these people in and the sanctuary city policies that keep them here and oppose efforts to remove them even with due process. 

 

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The Dems never did what Trump is doing

You keep saying that and I keep pointing out to you that they absolutely did what specific examples.

The dems have actually done the things that trump is doing. They disrespected the law, they overstepped and overreached their presidential authority, so did Obama by the way and badly, They weaponized court and legal institutions to attack political rivals. They pardoned thousands of people they liked including bidens own son after he promised he never would. They broke the elections financing act, which was the essence of the "criminal" conviction against trump. They kept documents they weren't legally allowed to. They interfered with the press to repress stories which directly impacted an election, they stepped on all kinds of peoples' rights (some of which was reversed by the courts)

And they also propped up a person who was clearly not fit mentally to serve and hit the fact of his decline from the people hoping they could squeak one more election out of him and then undemocratically swapped him out when it was so obvious the public couldn't ignore it. 

Wake up kid.  Not only did the dems do all of the stuff trump is and more, but they were the trailblazers who erased the lines of decency that previously everyone agreed to. 

Except turning the white house into a used car sales lot. That was new. I'll give you that one. 

[Radiorum]

5 hours ago, User said:

you guys also support Biden letting all these people in

Biden had a bill to address illegal immigration. Trump killed it.

5 hours ago, User said:

oppose efforts to remove them even with due process. 

But they weren't given due process. It's a slippery slope the US is sliding down, where the proclamations of the president take precedence over the law. The law must survive any individual administration.

More than a dozen judges have said Trump and Co. probably broke the law

Trump is now averaging one such finding about every four days.

[Radiorum]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You keep saying that and I keep pointing out to you that they absolutely did what specific examples.

The dems have actually done the things that trump is doing. They disrespected the law, they overstepped and overreached their presidential authority, so did Obama by the way and badly, They weaponized court and legal institutions to attack political rivals. They pardoned thousands of people they liked including bidens own son after he promised he never would. They broke the elections financing act, which was the essence of the "criminal" conviction against trump. They kept documents they weren't legally allowed to. They interfered with the press to repress stories which directly impacted an election, they stepped on all kinds of peoples' rights (some of which was reversed by the courts)

And they also propped up a person who was clearly not fit mentally to serve and hit the fact of his decline from the people hoping they could squeak one more election out of him and then undemocratically swapped him out when it was so obvious the public couldn't ignore it. 

Wake up kid.  Not only did the dems do all of the stuff trump is and more, but they were the trailblazers who erased the lines of decency that previously everyone agreed to. 

Except turning the white house into a used car sales lot. That was new. I'll give you that one. 

You gotta be kidding. that's the only explanation I can find for your blindness to what is going on. Or maybe I just gave you more credit than you deserved.

[User]

7 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Biden had a bill to address illegal immigration. Trump killed it.

He didn't need a bill and that bill was watered down nonsense that would have barely moved the needle with how Biden enforced the current laws. 

Trump has proven if you just enforce existing laws you can significantly curtail illegal immigration. 

9 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But they weren't given due process.

Again, you guys don't support removing them with due process now. This is just a ruse. 

 

[Radiorum]

3 minutes ago, User said:

He didn't need a bill and that bill was watered down nonsense that would have barely moved the needle with how Biden enforced the current laws. 

Trump has proven if you just enforce existing laws you can significantly curtail illegal immigration. 

Again, you guys don't support removing them with due process now. This is just a ruse. 

 

Yes, everyone wants to address illegal immigration!!! But let's do it legally! With a recognition of the dignity of all individuals.

What the hell does the US stand for? I don't know anymore.

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

 

Yes, everyone wants to address illegal immigration!!! But let's do it legally! With a recognition of the dignity of all individuals.

What the hell does the US stand for? I don't know anymore.

"address" how?

The notion of the left is to basically have open borders and legalize everyone and not care. 

The United States stands for basic foundation of laws, like border integrity. We only exist as we do because of that. 

I would prefer not to have violent criminal gangs coming here to rape, murder, and steal from us. 

 

[Radiorum]

22 minutes ago, User said:

The notion of the left is to basically have open borders and legalize everyone and not care. 

This is just not true, despite what Trump and right-wing media tell you. They are lying to you.

In fact, it was Clinton who in the 1990s made the biggest strides in border security.

In an effort to bring a level of control to the border, Operation "Hold the Line" was established in 1993 in El Paso, and proved an immediate success. Agents and technology were concentrated in specific areas, providing a "show of force" to potential illegal border crossers. The drastic reduction in apprehensions prompted the Border Patrol to undertake a full-scale effort in San Diego, California, which accounted for more than half of illegal entries. Operation "Gatekeeper" was implemented in 1994, and reduced illegal entries in San Diego by more than 75% over the next few years. A defined national strategic plan was introduced alongside Operation Gatekeeper and set out a plan of action for the Border Patrol into the future. With illegal entries at a more manageable level, the Patrol was able to concentrate on other areas, such as establishing anti-smuggling units and search and rescue teams such as BORSTAR. The Border Safety Initiative (BSI) was created in 1998 with a commitment by the Border Patrol and the promised cooperation of the Mexican government.

 

As painful as it might be, you need to come to terms with the fact that Trump has played you and he has conned you to get obsessed with immigration while he seizes all the levers of power in government.

26 minutes ago, User said:

I would prefer not to have violent criminal gangs coming here to rape, murder, and steal from us. 

I know - Trump has made you very, very afraid.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

This is just not true, despite what Trump and right-wing media tell you. They are lying to you.

LOL, you had to go back to the early 90's under Clinton?

We are not talking about how Democrats used to care about this issue, we are talking about how you are today. 

The only person trying to lie to me right now is you. 

7 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I know - Trump has made you very, very afraid.

Tell that to Laken Riley's family. 

This is exactly why your arguments here are dishonest. You don't care. You support this madness.