A raw unfiltered look at Israel's enemy

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, User said:

So… you think Hamas was justified in raping, torturing, taking hostages, killing kids and families in their homes gunning them down…

No I don't think that.  What do you think justifies Israel doing the sorts of things that causes Palestinian resistance and countries like Canada, France and the UK to also take action against Israel?

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

They became the IDF.

Or their victims? Go tell it to a world that's looking more closely at Israel and considering what sort of action to take against it for what it's inflicting against human beings in Gaza and the Westbank. People definitely care what happens.

sure they did, and what terrorist activates has happened since...Palestinians have a long record of voting in governments that are terrorist, PLO, Hamas, Fatah it just keeps going on and on....all with the same goal the destruction of Israel....i wonder has Israel declared to the world they want the destruction of all of palestine.....

Those victims you tell us about have voted in these terrorist groups, and have not done anything to throw them out....in fact those thousands that left the violence , still decree the destruction of Israel, Change will only come when Palestinian want it...and judging by todays action they are not ready for change....no victims here, only people living with their choices...

Yes, thats is what is going to happen, Canada is going to slap them on the wrist, say bad boy, and Israelis will continue their military campaign...because it is every Israelis that lives with these terrorist threats everyday, and they are tired of it.......Israel will stop when they say they will stop....not before....

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

..because it is every Israelis that lives with these terrorist threats everyday, and they are tired of it.......Israel will stop when they say they will stop....not before....

Palestinians live with subjugation everyday, I doubt they'll ever quit resisting. Would you?

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

No I don't think that.  What do you think justifies Israel doing the sorts of things that causes Palestinian resistance and countries like Canada, France and the UK to also take action against Israel?

OK, so why are you bringing up "resistance" to justify what Hamas is doing when I asked how we stop Hamas?

 

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Palestinians live with subjugation everyday, I doubt they'll ever quit resisting. Would you?

Why are they not resisting Hamas then? They are the ones subjugating them in Gaza. 

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, User said:

OK, so why are you bringing up "resistance" to justify what Hamas is doing when I asked how we stop Hamas?

To explain why Hamas exists, not justify what it does.

Meanwhile how come you always run away from Israeli complicity in the worsening ME Conflict?

18 minutes ago, User said:

Why are they not resisting Hamas then? They are the ones subjugating them in Gaza. 

Some do and are murdered for doing so. Jewish terrorists killed Jews who got in their way too.

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

To explain why Hamas exists, not justify what it does.

Meanwhile how come you always run away from Israeli complicity in the worsening ME Conflict?

The question isn’t why they exist, regardless of your bogus arguments. It was how do we get rid of them.

You have no argument. Nothing. No solutions. Just hate Israel.

 

[eyeball]

52 minutes ago, User said:

The question isn’t why they exist, regardless of your bogus arguments. It was how do we get rid of them.

Okay, but then what?

54 minutes ago, User said:

You have no argument. Nothing. No solutions. Just hate Israel.

What's Israel's solution?

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

Okay, but then what?

That is a good first start. 

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

What's Israel's solution?

They are engaged in that right now. Destroy Hamas. 

 

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, User said:

That is a good first start. 

They are engaged in that right now. Destroy Hamas. 

 

Then what?

[User]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Then what?

You can’t even get past supporting Hamas. Start there. 

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, User said:

You can’t even get past supporting Hamas. Start there. 

When I say Hamas members should be tried for crimes against humanity what do you hear - what do you take away from that? It seems you're the one who's stuck not me.

[User]

23 hours ago, eyeball said:

When I say Hamas members should be tried for crimes against humanity what do you hear - what do you take away from that? It seems you're the one who's stuck not me.

That Hamas continues to stay in power, they continue to rule over their people as dictators, they continue to attack and kill Israeli's with terrorism. They continue to rape, murder, and take hostages as much as they can. 

You have offered no solutions.

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, User said:

You have offered no solutions.

Of course I have. I've suggested a number of times a large international peace keeping force to keep Israelis and Palestinians away from one another until such time as things cool off enough they can talk again.

Granted that'll likely take two or three generations but it is what it is.

[User]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Of course I have. I've suggested a number of times a large international peace keeping force to keep Israelis and Palestinians away from one another until such time as things cool off enough they can talk again.

Granted that'll likely take two or three generations but it is what it is.

Again, this is all wish-casting. What large international peacekeeping force? 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, User said:

Again, this is all wish-casting. What large international peacekeeping force? 

I don't know, probably a big one that can make a commitment. Have you tried using your own imagination?

Seriously though, I often don't think there is a solution. That entire ME region is thoroughly hooped and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. It'll just be a perennial state of hatred death and destruction - its just another big mess we'll have to leave to people in the future to figure out.

So what's your wish?

[User]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I don't know, probably a big one that can make a commitment. Have you tried using your own imagination?

Seriously though, I often don't think there is a solution. That entire ME region is thoroughly hooped and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. It'll just be a perennial state of hatred death and destruction - its just another big mess we'll have to leave to people in the future to figure out.

So what's your wish?

Of course you don't know. All roads with you lead to Hamas still being in power and still raping, murdering, tortoruing, and hostage taking. 

Then you wonder why I say that is what you want?

 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, User said:

Of course you don't know. All roads with you lead to Hamas still being in power and still raping, murdering, tortoruing, and hostage taking. 

Then you wonder why I say that is what you want?

It's no wonder at all, that chip the size of Mt Everest on your shoulder is as obvious as Mt Everest.

But sure, you want Hamas to be evaporated. I get that.

Then what?

[User]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's no wonder at all, that chip the size of Mt Everest on your shoulder is as obvious as Mt Everest.

But sure, you want Hamas to be evaporated. I get that.

Then what?

So… you do support Hamas! You don’t want them evaporated? 
 

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, User said:

So… you do support Hamas! You don’t want them evaporated?

Of course I want them gone, religious conservatives are the bane of human existence.

[User]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Of course I want them gone, religious conservatives are the bane of human existence.

Do you though? 

What you are doing is like arguing that you really do want to lose weight and be in shape, but you still sit on the couch all day eating junk food and keep getting more fat. 

At some point, people don't believe you really want to lose weight and be in shape. 

That is you. You say you don't want Hamas in power... but yet, nothing you offer will do anything and you oppose the power actually removing them right now. 

 

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, User said:

What you are doing is like arguing that you really do want to lose weight and be in shape, but you still sit on the couch all day eating junk food and keep getting more fat.

Said the lazy fat man.

You're telling me you want peace and I have no reason to believe you.

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Said the lazy fat man.

You're telling me you want peace and I have no reason to believe you.

I don't care what you believe. 

Unlike you though, there is a mechanism in the works now to remove Hamas and I fully support that.