Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 https://themoderatevoice.com/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-trump-ive-read/ Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 not being liked by the British ( and most other non Americans ) is Trump's key selling point since Americans don't like the British ( and most other non Americans ) Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 It might be a selling point for Trump but he is trashing his country’s credibility in the rest of the world and most of all with his allies. The US will never be trusted again because they now know the US can’t be trusted. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 14 minutes ago, Aristides said: It might be a selling point for Trump but he is trashing his country’s credibility in the rest of the world and most of all with his allies. The US will never be trusted again because they now know the US can’t be trusted. there's not much they can do about it, as they are totally dependant on America's military and 25 trillion USD economy Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 29 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: there's not much they can do about it, as they are totally dependant on America's military and 25 trillion USD economy It will take a bit of time but sure they can. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 Just now, Aristides said: It will take a bit of time but sure they can. the reality is, America doesn't need America's allies America's allies are in fact a burden not a boon America's allies have never saved America, no matter how many times America has saved the world and everybody is going to have to do business in America, to include paying the tariffs therein Quote
herbie Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 Other countries were tires of the USA becoming a laughing point by the end of his first year of his first term. Now he has them puking again in one week. He certainly has managed ot Make America Ugly Again with no help from any other country. Already set Canada-US relations back to 1812. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 Quote A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. He's just so ugly. Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 46 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the reality is, America doesn't need America's allies America's allies are in fact a burden not a boon America's allies have never saved America, no matter how many times America has saved the world and everybody is going to have to do business in America, to include paying the tariffs therein America looks after America, it has yet to save the world. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: it has yet to save the world. World War One, World War Two, Cold War Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 17 minutes ago, herbie said: Already set Canada-US relations back to 1812. too bad you leftists have turned Canada into a feeble unmartial effeminate joke which couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag then Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 22 minutes ago, Aristides said: America looks after America, it has yet to save the world. WW1, WW2, Trump first and second term. Your welcome 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: WW1, WW2, Trump first and second term. Your welcome The US came into WW1 right at the end and mostly because the Germans were trying to talk Mexico into attacking the US. It didn't come into WW 2 until it was attacked itself. Hitler declared war on the US first. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: The US came into WW1 right at the end and mostly because the Germans were trying to talk Mexico into attacking the US. It didn't come into WW 2 until it was attacked itself. Hitler declared war on the US first. And both times, when we got there, the fight ended. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: The US came into WW1 right at the end and mostly because the Germans were trying to talk Mexico into attacking the US. It didn't come into WW 2 until it was attacked itself. Hitler declared war on the US first. America bailed the British Empire out in 1916 when it went broke on the Somme if America had not been supplying the British with the gold, the Germans would have won the war trying to claim that America did not win the Second World War for the allies is just silly you are just butt hurt because Trump has exposed Canada as being an American vassal state and there's nothing you can do about it, except rant & rave on the internet in sheer impotence Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 Just now, gatomontes99 said: And both times, when we got there, the fight ended. The fight ended when the Soviets took Berlin. They did more and sacrificed more to defeat Hitler than anyone else. Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 Just now, Dougie93 said: America bailed the British Empire out in 1916 when it went broke on the Somme if America had not been supplying the British with the gold, the Germans would have won the war trying to claim that America did not win the Second World War for the allies is just silly you are just butt hurt because Trump has exposed Canada as being an American vassal state and there's nothing you can do about it, except rant & rave on the internet in sheer impotence With 7 million people, Canada lost more than the US did in Viet Nam. With 11 million in WW2 we had a million in uniform and were in both wars from the beginning. My father was an already in Europe 9 months before Pearl Harbour. I don't discredit what the US did but nor will I take their pompous bullshit. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 1 minute ago, Aristides said: With 7 million people, Canada lost more than the US did in Viet Nam. With 11 million in WW2 we had a million in uniform and were in both wars from the beginning. My father was an already in Europe 9 months before Pearl Harbour. I don't discredit what the US did but nor will I take their pompous bullshit. America decided the outcome of both World Wars, Canada did not it would be pompous bullshit for Canada to claim otherwise Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 10 minutes ago, Aristides said: The fight ended when the Soviets took Berlin. They did more and sacrificed more to defeat Hitler than anyone else. Russian sympathist eh? Why do you think Germany spent more time and resources on the fronts with Americans? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: America decided the outcome of both World Wars, Canada did not it would be pompous bullshit for Canada to claim otherwise As I said, I don't discredit the contribution the US made but I am sick of them putting down what others sacrificed to win the war. If Britain and its Commonwealth forces hadn't held out alone, there would be no second front and no winning the war unless the Russians did it. 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Russian sympathist eh? Why do you think Germany spent more time and resources on the fronts with Americans? Are you f***ing serious, the Russians lost 20 million people and fought the greater part of the German army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa Quote More than 3.8 million Axis troops invaded the western Soviet Union along a 2,900-kilometer (1,800 mi) front, Edited January 29, 2025 by Aristides Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Russian sympathist eh? the hysterical screeching butt hurt in Canada is off the charts President Trump has invoked their worst nightmare ; forced to kneel in the face of American freedom never mind that Canada is the ultimate Free Rider which destroyed its own military for DEI and Transgenderism suddenly these clowns are all beating their chests about their martial history which five minutes ago they were claiming was "White Supremacist Genocide" 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Are you f***ing serious, the Russians lost 20 million people and fought the greater part of the German army. not for the free world, they were fighting to impose Soviet Bolshevism 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: but I am sick of them putting down what others sacrificed to win the war. when did Americans do that ? Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the hysterical screeching butt hurt in Canada is off the charts President Trump has invoked their worst nightmare ; forced to kneel in the face of American freedom never mind that Canada is the ultimate Free Rider which destroyed its own military for DEI and Transgenderism suddenly these clowns are all beating their chests about their martial history which five minutes ago they were claiming was "White Supremacist Genocide" not for the free world, they were fighting to impose Soviet Bolshevism You really are an a**hole. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29, 2025 Report Posted January 29, 2025 10 minutes ago, Aristides said: If Britain and its Commonwealth forces hadn't held out alone, just to correct you here, there is no such thing as "Commonwealth forces" it was the British Empire, Canada fought for the British Empire, in both wars the Commonwealth is not and never has been a military alliance, it's only a cultural organization which wasn't founded until 1949 Quote
Aristides Posted January 29, 2025 Author Report Posted January 29, 2025 Just now, Dougie93 said: just to correct you here, there is no such thing as "Commonwealth forces" it was the British Empire, Canada fought for the British Empire, in both wars the Commonwealth is not and never has been a military alliance, it's only a cultural organization which wasn't founded until 1949 Canada was not part part of the Empire in WW2, it was an independent Dominion and declared war on its own. We fought with the Empire. Quote
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