Moonbox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The hilarity of a broken man crybabing that opposed that would take an average grade school student less than 15 seconds to read is just too long for him is freaking awesome You're mistaken. When a 1-sentence quip injures your ego to the point where you deem a 200+ word tantrum rant is the most appropriate response, you're doing all the work for me. Nothing makes you look more fragile than that, so please don't think I'm trying to stop it. I'm encouraging it. 🙃👍 Edited January 30 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 Just now, Moonbox said: You're mistaken. When a 1-sentence quip injures your ego to the point where you deem a 200+ word tantrum rant is the most appropriate response, you're doing all the work for me. Nothing makes you look more fragile than that, so please don't think I'm trying to stop it. I'm encouraging it. 🙃👍 LOL!!! The things you have to tell yourself to get through the day 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Venandi Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well that seems to be what the experts are calling for. Honestly I have no idea why the concept is driving moon box and eyeball insane like this It's been a mystery to me from the beginning. For a lot of this of you didn't need to be an expert in order to have basic questions like: If spike protein toxicity is a thing, and lipid nano particles are a thing too, then what about systemic distribution.... wouldn't that be a thing? Well ya, it is a thing and we knew it was a thing in 2021 when everyone was still saying "it all stays in the deltoid". So what are the long term effects of this distribution and what about rouge mutations to the original S protein and inflammation effects over time, especially if it passes the BBB into the brain? I have no clue, guess we'll find out eh? I'm sure glad I didn't take it though. Here's a recent video on this from about a month ago, it reviews a number of studies for anyone interested: If you refuse to watch it, or it's too long, or there are too many big words then just stick with Herb's elegant Big Mac theory below... just be sure to add a few duhs and LMAO's in your analysis so as to differentiate yourself from those ignorant hyenas. 22 hours ago, herbie said: Couldn't be inflation causing you obsess the last few over not being able to afford $19,99 Big Mac meal deals either. Edited January 31 by Venandi 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Venandi said: Here's a recent video on this from about a month ago, it reviews a number of studies for anyone interested: Here's a review of Dr John Campbell for anyone interested. Reviews of content from John Campbell https://science.feedback.org/reviewed-content-author/john-campbell/ Science Feedback is a publication verifying the credibility of influential information and media coverage that claims to be scientific in fields that are particularly prone to misunderstandings and misinformation such as climate change and health. It is operated by a not-for-profit organization. 3 hours ago, Venandi said: If you refuse to watch it, or it's too long, or there are too many big words... Be warned, Science Feedback goes into great investigative detail and it is not for the faint of heart. 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Venandi Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) Yes, he’s received a lot of attention, much of it negative, and it’s more than just from Science Feedback. I’m not vaccinated so my interest here could best be described as technical rather than narrative driven and I remain a bit surprised that people see the issue in such stark terms. I’ve had a lot of vaccines over my career (way more than most I’d say) but this is actually the first one I ever balked at taking. And here’s the thing…my hesitation was, and remains, the issue of toxicity, distribution, and INAPPROPRIATE / EXCESSIVE immune system response in the form of inflammation. I’ve used some of his videos as a stepping stone to further research as opposed to simply being a limited exercise in debunking other information sources… I find that exhausting, unproductive and usually self serving in some regard. Amidst all of it though, the basic issue of distribution and inflammation remains at the heart of the back and forth seesaw I find most interesting, particularly as it applies to the original post. I say that because (I think) the combined effects of both the vaccine and the infection itself on inflammation, particularly with exposure of vaccinated individuals to mutated viruses that the vaccine responds ineffectively to hasn’t been widely considered over the longterm… at least from what I’ve been able to find. That’s what the original post seems to be getting at, do you think that’s not the case? Or that it’s not cause for concern… and why? If the vaccine actually prevented people from getting the virus I would tend to agree with (what I see as) your position... the fact that it doesn't strikes me as problematic. If you’ve found anything worthwhile on that topic I’d be very happy to read it because at the heart of all this is the concern that an individuals immune system registers the vaccine as a direct threat and attacks it causing inflammation. That seems to be what the OP is driving at. The question being, what happens with multiple exposures / immune responses over time. I'm sensitive to wasp venom now and it's from many (and I mean many) exposures working in the bush and riding motorcycles for decades. Is that type of reaction a consideration for people in the future (say) young men who seem to be statistically vulnerable? So, given the presence of lipid nanoparticles why isn’t distribution something you (or anyone for that matter) would consider to be concerning right from day one… it was one of the first concerns I had, it still seems to be with us in spades and the interest in the long term effects seems to be growing. Given the presence of lipid nano particles I've always looked at it in terms of WTF did you think was going to happen?... but that's just me. Were you surprised when it became clear that it wasn't simply confined to the deltoid and temporary in nature? If you think the entire video is trash, you should have been absolutely horrified by the level distribution observed... unless you're suggesting that it's simply a hoax generated by hyenas. I think it's worth looking at in the absence of narrative driven factors. As an aside, I have a passing acquaintance with aviation accident investigations... the thread on that particular subject is both analogous and cautionary because it illustrates what I'm getting at. I'd also observe that deciphering available information can be challenging even with stuff as simple as the weather... it's like there's too many choices now and all you need to do is pick the one you like best. Check it out, what you get on a weather app can (and often is) completely different than what's on the site itself. This has gotten to the point that I only use aviation products and weather radar for planning snow plowing evolutions now. My point in saying that is... yes sources matter, but accurate information is where you find it and the total picture only becomes apparent after comparing different sources with trends and effects. When you have three independent weather sources and each one is defended by a battalion of narrative driven lunatics, you may be better served by looking out the window. I find it to be a lot of work on a limited time budget and my interest is actually waning a bit. The "war of links" isn't very helpful to me (personally) and that's why I found the effort put forth by Goddess to be the most helpful I've seen in deciphering some of the issues I found intriguing. BTW, the insults directed at her were shameful by any definition of shameful IMO and the only appropriate response to them is: Edited January 31 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 9 hours ago, Venandi said: That’s what the original post seems to be getting at, do you think that’s not the case? Or that it’s not cause for concern… and why? Mostly because the vast VAST majority of experts think it's a bunch of hooey. And what you just said here. 9 hours ago, Venandi said: I'd also observe that deciphering available information can be challenging even with stuff as simple as the weather... Welcome to my world...50 years on and all to often you still have to poke your nose out the harbour to see if it's worth going any further. But I have a crystal ball (Windy!), the younger skippers tell me... Sure but when they hold an inquiry into a weather related accident they'll want to know that you were informed by a combination of the official forecasts and your certified experience. So back to COVID and knowing that deciphering available information can be challenging. I've lived in the same small community where everyone knows everyone else since I was 15 and where the rule about never being more than 3 people away from everyone really holds true. I haven't seen or heard of a single example of the nonsense surrounding COVID. Given the numbers of injuries and deaths attributed to vaccine I should know or heard of dozens of victims by now...it's the same with all the gender indoctrination our community is said to have had inflicted on it. I haven't seen any nor heard a shred of concern about it. But I can clearly see and decipher why cedars are succumbing to rapid climate change. The numbers of gray ghosts appearing in the rain forests hereabouts is startling. Edited January 31 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Venandi Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I haven't seen or heard of a single example of the nonsense surrounding COVID. Certainly not a universal experience though. My daughter in law's sisters husband (young guy) died suddenly a short time after the second jab, 2 ladies from our church got Bell's Palsy, a friends daughter has blood clots, my neighbour and his brother both had strokes, another acquaintance died of heart failure, the daughter of a friends sister now has eye problems, my mother in law died a couple months after being vaccinated, my youngest (who sounded much like you actually) chickened out after the first shot as he got horribly ill minutes after the jab and was off work for a week, and my oldest was drummed out of the military during the mandate malfunction ending 4 generations of military service with a whimper. Who knows though, I admit it could all be a string of bad luck, sort of a statistical catchup but none of the family members left behind or those directly affected believe that for a second. Doesn't mean they're right... they just don't believe it As to the gender thing I know three trans folks (casually) in the military and deployed with one before the change. All have opinions but I wouldn't call them activists, none would agree with the more radical opinions/articles posted here nor do they expect much more than basic tolerance and compassion... they just want to live their lives. Fair number of gay guys (FAs) in the airline world, great people by and large and most (I think) feel the same way... there's a few activist type personalities but I used to find them pretty abrasive and I'm guessing that would have been the case whether they were gay or not. Most folks I know casually just want to live and let live... or so it seems to me. If you still believe everything remained in the deltoid inoculation site, that there was/is no systemic circulation of S protein, and the likelihood of lipid nanoparticles actually doing what they were designed to do is low (especially when it comes to the BBB) then so be it. Had my personal circumstances been different I may well have gotten the vaccine regardless of my concerns... luckily that wasn't required. But...forcing it on people with low risk to the point of the vaccine risk being higher than the covid risk is immoral IMO. In addition, the spectre of Canadians cheering when their neighbours got fired and some of the horrid comments in media commentary sections and even right here on this forum will be long remembered regardless of future biological outcomes. I'll leave at that I guess... Cheers. Edited January 31 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Venandi said: Certainly not a universal experience though. My daughter in law's sisters husband (young guy) died suddenly a short time after the second jab, 2 ladies from our church got Bell's Palsy, a friends daughter has blood clots, my neighbour and his brother both had strokes, another acquaintance died of heart failure, the daughter of a friends sister now has eye problems, my mother in law died a couple months after being vaccinated, my youngest (who sounded much like you actually) chickened out after the first shot as he got horribly ill minutes after the jab and was off work for a week, and my oldest was drummed out of the military during the mandate malfunction ending 4 generations of military service with a whimper. So...you personally know 9-10 victims and numerous other posters around here have likewise recounted stories about the daughter of a friends sister and so on in their circles. And you can multiply those by who knows how many circles are out there. Goddess knows dozens personally. Although we haven't seen her lately - maybe she stood to close to a vaccinated person and got their cooties. No amount of degrees of separation can explain why your experience isn't completely universal by now. Why is it only universal with you people? I know hundreds of people where I live and I have not seen a shred of evidence that suggests your experience is anywhere close to being universal. I've asked doctors and people I know in the medical sector if they've seen any and Nada. Sadly though, according to these, my pharmacist and my neighbours kid who is a pharmacist...the number of people getting vaccinated are down, across the board. 42 minutes ago, Venandi said: Who knows though, I admit it could all be a string of bad luck, sort of a statistical catchup but none of the family members left behind or those directly affected believe that for a second. Doesn't mean they're right... they just don't believe it They've probably been listening to the shit you and the OP post and that you see posted just about everywhere else around the known universe now. Good job. Gullibility is certainly on the way up. BTW, I bet there isn't a single victim amongst all the victims in your circle that have even tried to corroborate their experience with medical experts. They wouldn't believe it. Edited January 31 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Venandi Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: So...you personally know 9-10 victims Yes, that doesn't mean it's all vaccine related though, even if they (and others) believe it is. My mother in law was pneumonia related (with Covid), it caught up with here very quickly. The neighbour actually had 2 strokes, I plow his driveway when I do mine as I don't like to see him working on it. Both he and his brother are doing well now. Curious though... are you calling me a liar? 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: They've probably been listening to the shit you and the OP post You are a very nasty piece of work sir, I'm the poorer for having talked with you. Edited January 31 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Venandi said: Curious though... are you calling me a liar? Seriously deluded for sure, but if I thought you were ideologically motivated I'd also call you a dangerous threat to society. 8 minutes ago, Venandi said: You are a very nasty piece of work sir, I'm the poorer for having talked with you. You shouldn't be given you're also better informed. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 18 hours ago, eyeball said: Here's a review of Dr John Campbell for anyone interested. Reviews of content from John Campbell https://science.feedback.org/reviewed-content-author/john-campbell/ Science Feedback is a publication verifying the credibility of influential information and media coverage that claims to be scientific in fields that are particularly prone to misunderstandings and misinformation such as climate change and health. It is operated by a not-for-profit organization. Be warned, Science Feedback goes into great investigative detail and it is not for the faint of heart. Science feedback is a left wing organization that's part of the effort to control "misinformation' which can be defined as anything that goes against their political narrative. Just like many of the vanishing 'fact checkers' right now. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Science feedback is a left wing organization that's part of the effort to control "misinformation' which can be defined as anything that goes against their political narrative. Just like many of the vanishing 'fact checkers' right now. Yer a frickin' loon mate. You couldn't tell shit from Shinola if your life depended on it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Yer a frickin' loon mate. You couldn't tell shit from Shinola if your life depended on it. Oh dear. Triggered lefty is triggered by the truth yet again. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
GroundskeeperWillie Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 (edited) Hi guys, is there a clear consensus on exactly what the covid jabs do? I know that they are bad for us, but bad in what way? Do they make us infertile, or do they change our DNAs? I don't think they merely give us heart problems. The elites pushing them aren't that kind. Edited February 8 by GroundskeeperWillie Quote
CdnFox Posted February 8 Author Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, GroundskeeperWillie said: Hi guys, is there a clear consensus on exactly what the covid jabs do? I know that they are bad for us, but bad in what way? Do they make us infertile, or do they change our DNAs? I don't think they merely give us heart problems. The elites pushing them aren't that kind. Heart and heart related issues are the ones that we know about with certainty although we just saw a article stating that the extent of how bad that is may not yet be understood and Canadian experts are calling for additional research Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 8 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said: Hi guys, is there a clear consensus on exactly what the covid jabs do? I know that they are bad for us, but bad in what way? Do they make us infertile, or do they change our DNAs? I don't think they merely give us heart problems. The elites pushing them aren't that kind. It's far worse. They make you woke. It's the chips. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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